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wadesworld

Why is he in the game? Missed shots, missed defensive assignments, stupid turnovers. Find the bench kid.

Markusquette


4everwarriors

Todd, Jake, Derrick.....it don't matter.
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

TSmith34, Inc.

He's having an awful game, again
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

Nevada233

Quote from: TSmith34 on December 31, 2013, 09:58:31 PM
He's having an awful game, again

Todd passing like Tony Romo Today. .

NickelDimer

It's no longer even worth assigning blame to an individual or two.  We're just bad collectively
No Finish Line

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Nevada233 on December 31, 2013, 09:59:43 PM
Todd passing like Tony Romo Today. .

Romo had a great year....you may have meant Seneca Wallace

MuMark

Somebody has to play....if those are the criteria for benching we can't field a team

Quote from: wadesworld on December 31, 2013, 09:52:45 PM
Why is he in the game? Missed shots, missed defensive assignments, stupid turnovers. Find the bench kid.

wadesworld

Quote from: MuMark on December 31, 2013, 10:06:00 PM
Somebody has to play....if those are the criteria for benching we can't field a team


Most do 1 or 2 of the 3. Not all 3, at least 1 every possession. Just brutal. I'll gladly take a guy who doesn't score but doesn't make mistakes (Derrick, Juan, Jake) on the court over a guy who doesn't score and makes brutal mistakes (Todd).

Nevada233

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 31, 2013, 10:05:26 PM
Romo had a great year....you may have meant Seneca Wallace

Hey more like Eli manning lol....

TSmith34, Inc.

Another -4 point swing from Mayo there.  Don't understand why Buzz is keeping him in there
If you think for one second that I am comparing the USA to China you have bumped your hard.

raul

Terrible game by Todd. Wouldn't miss him next year if he left early.

Nevada233

Quote from: raul on December 31, 2013, 11:51:11 PM
Terrible game by Todd. Wouldn't miss him next year if he left early.

early to go where... OJ's Couch... lmfao

MUfan12

I give Buzz credit... I woulda run him after the UW game, and sure would have after tonight. He was abysmal in every facet of the game.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: wadesworld on December 31, 2013, 09:52:45 PM
Why is he in the game? Missed shots, missed defensive assignments, stupid turnovers. Find the bench kid.

Are you kiddimg
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: wadesworld on December 31, 2013, 09:52:45 PM
Why is he in the game? Missed shots, missed defensive assignments, stupid turnovers. Find the bench kid.

Are you kiddimg? You call put Todd


Of all players on this team.....
Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

Goose

I have backed Todd for 2+ years and I finally give up.

bilsu

Last night I was thinking, if we had Todd for the Arizona St and UW games, we would of lost those games by a bigger margin.

setyoursightsnorth

Todd is my boy. I will always have his back.

NersEllenson

Blows me away we have those who are unrelenting in their support of Derrick, who puts up games like Todd did last night - consistently - yet Todd has his worst game of the year, and now he sucks?  Look at the season stats - he's our 3rd best player.

I'll take some turnovers if a guy is at least trying to be a playmaker either for himself or others.  Wish our PG had the same mentality.

There are no ifs, ands, or buts about it - what ails this team is our PG.  The loss of Vander is a blow, yet Vander wouldn't be functioning nearly as well with this PG, as there is virtually no transition game, and Junior along with Vander were great in transition.

As for Gardner - think the guy has really regressed to this point, through not putting any work in the past off season??  By all accounts he worked really hard.  He has the same skills as always, but now just better conditioning and quickness - yet he's having a rough year??  Gee...wonder why?
"I'm not sure Cadougan would fix the problems on this team. I'm not even convinced he would be better for this team than DeWil is."

BrewCity77, December 8, 2013

ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: Ners on January 01, 2014, 04:10:11 PM
Blows me away we have those who are unrelenting in their support of Derrick, who puts up games like Todd did last night - consistently - yet Todd has his worst game of the year, and now he sucks?  Look at the season stats - he's our 3rd best player.

I'll take some turnovers if a guy is at least trying to be a playmaker either for himself or others.  Wish our PG had the same mentality.

There are no ifs, ands, or buts about it - what ails this team is our PG.  The loss of Vander is a blow, yet Vander wouldn't be functioning nearly as well with this PG, as there is virtually no transition game, and Junior along with Vander were great in transition.

As for Gardner - think the guy has really regressed to this point, through not putting any work in the past off season??  By all accounts he worked really hard.  He has the same skills as always, but now just better conditioning and quickness - yet he's having a rough year??  Gee...wonder why?
Because if he's not scoring he's not playing hard.  That's why.

GGGG

Quote from: Ners on January 01, 2014, 04:10:11 PM
Blows me away we have those who are unrelenting in their support of Derrick, who puts up games like Todd did last night - consistently - yet Todd has his worst game of the year, and now he sucks?  Look at the season stats - he's our 3rd best player.


The problem with Todd in people's eyes is that he hasn't taken that next step.  I think he is what he is.  A volume shooter who will get hot occasionally, but will rarely be a guy who can put the team on his back and lead them to victory.

But yeah, I think the criticism is unwarranted. 

NersEllenson

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on January 01, 2014, 04:41:53 PM
Because if he's not scoring he's not playing hard.  That's why.

That's simply a cop out of an excuse....Gardner has been one of the most efficient players in college hoops each of the past 3 seasons, and now, in his senior year, in his best condition - he all of a sudden isn't playing hard enough to score??  Umm....okay.

Gardner isn't effective this year because the opposition's defense has ZERO fear of our perimeter game, and the least concern with Derrick - who gets more minutes on the team than anyone.  Derrick has 3 of his 53 assists for the year to Gardner....what more evidence do you need that our PG cannot help create decent shot opportunities for Gardner?

"I'm not sure Cadougan would fix the problems on this team. I'm not even convinced he would be better for this team than DeWil is."

BrewCity77, December 8, 2013

Markusquette

Quote from: Ners on January 01, 2014, 05:00:51 PM
That's simply a cop out of an excuse....Gardner has been one of the most efficient players in college hoops each of the past 3 seasons, and now, in his senior year, in his best condition - he all of a sudden isn't playing hard enough to score??  Umm....okay.

Gardner isn't effective this year because the opposition's defense has ZERO fear of our perimeter game, and the least concern with Derrick - who gets more minutes on the team than anyone.  Derrick has 3 of his 53 assists for the year to Gardner....what more evidence do you need that our PG cannot help create decent shot opportunities for Gardner?


It's true.  As good as Gardner is/was at creating his own shot inside, a lot of his points came off of easy, wide open lay-ups fed to him by Cadougan and Blue.

PGsHeroes32

Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on January 01, 2014, 04:58:52 PM

The problem with Todd in people's eyes is that he hasn't taken that next step.  I think he is what he is.  A volume shooter who will get hot occasionally, but will rarely be a guy who can put the team on his back and lead them to victory.

But yeah, I think the criticism is unwarranted. 

He is definitely streaky. But what's mind boggling is Todd is still treated by buzz with the freshman. 1 mistake, he's back to the bench.

Jake could be the equivalent to a traffic cone and he will only come out for standard rest. I know we are limited with PG options but Derrick has made some AWFUl passes, namely on in bounds plays. If that's Todd, he would be lucky to play again.

then it's crazy that people on here are so quick to defend the players that simply are not that talented, but then hammer on Ox and Todd.

Lazar picking up where the BIG 3 left off....

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