ACC tourney officially heading to NYC

[Atticus]

You are assuming that Boeheim will still be at Cuse and that the NCAA, which is still looking at the program, allows them to stay eligible. If St. John's gets itself straightened out and Nova stays strong, the BE Tourney will still sell out MSG.

I believe 2005 was the last year a sell-out didn't occur at pre-sale.

What are the new allotments per team this year? Are the same number of seats reserved for universities as in the past or did each allotment significantly increase because the seats are divided by 10 schools instead of 16 this year?

[hoyasincebirth]

Carolina travels well, and Cuse will fill the joint anyway. I will bet they average more tickets sold for that tourney than the BE tourney.

I guarantee you the BE in MSG will out sell (in terms of average attendance) the ACC or the B1G or anyone else who hosts their tournament in Barclays! I will bet you a million dollars!  

[Gato78]

Hell, I thought Magic Johnson couldn't play point guard in the NBA. What do I know,? The big money guys may well be right and prove me wrong. I just don't see it. Again, as you agree, Barclays will never be MSG. Will be interesting to see how the southerners react--especially if Syracuse catches fire that year and their fans over take the place. A subset will be Duke fans dealing with Syracuse fans--a total culture clash. Barclays may be one and done.

Millionaires and billionaires that are investing in real estate in Brooklyn obviously disagree with you; they aren't investing in bricks and mortar because it's a fad. Of course Barclays won't rival MSG in perception or reputation, but it already is in terms of bookings.

And if neighborhoods truly mattered, think about this: the Yankees play in Bronx, the Mets play in Queens, and the Jets and Giants play in....Jersey.

[reinko]

...after signing a deal with Barclays Center. Two conference tournaments will go head-to-head in the same city, possibly as soon as 2017. The B1G is also interested in NYC.

http://chapelboro.com/sports/acc/acc-tournament-going-new-york/

[Litehouse]

Millionaires and billionaires that are investing in real estate in Brooklyn obviously disagree with you; they aren't investing in bricks and mortar because it's a fad. Of course Barclays won't rival MSG in perception or reputation, but it already is in terms of bookings.

And if neighborhoods truly mattered, think about this: the Yankees play in Bronx, the Mets play in Queens, and the Jets and Giants play in....Jersey.

Think about this... if those teams could all build stadiums and play in mid-town Manhattan, they would.  Do you really want to compare real estate development between Brooklyn and Manhattan? Bookings are good at Barclays because demand is so high in NYC and MSG is already booked, so Barclays is the next best alternative.  People are in Brooklyn is because Manhattan is too expensive.

[Atticus]

Think about this... if those teams could all build stadiums and play in mid-town Manhattan, they would.  Do you really want to compare real estate development between Brooklyn and Manhattan? Bookings are good at Barclays because demand is so high in NYC and MSG is already booked, so Barclays is the next best alternative.  People are in Brooklyn is because Manhattan is too expensive.

Funny. No one compared real estate development in Brooklyn to Manhattan. No one....except you.

Your comment about people living in Brooklyn because they cant afford Manhattan is funny. I got a kick out of that. Im in real estate development...and my firm has recently financed projects in Brooklyn. You don't have a clue.

[hoyasincebirth]

nm

[Litehouse]

Funny. No one compared real estate development in Brooklyn to Manhattan. No one....except you.

Your comment about people living in Brooklyn because they cant afford Manhattan is funny. I got a kick out of that. Im in real estate development...and my firm has recently financed projects in Brooklyn. You don't have a clue.

Here's Gato's post comparing Brooklyn to Manhattan that you responded to:
"I think the fascination with Brooklyn will soon fade. Brooklyn is not Manhattan and it never will be. Is it really any better than Newark? I may well be wrong on the Brooklyn renaissance but it is never going to equal Manhattan and MSG. Never."

The discussion was Brooklyn vs. Manhattan, and you brought up real estate development in Brooklyn for some reason.

[Atticus]

Here's Gato's post comparing Brooklyn to Manhattan that you responded to:
"I think the fascination with Brooklyn will soon fade. Brooklyn is not Manhattan and it never will be. Is it really any better than Newark? I may well be wrong on the Brooklyn renaissance but it is never going to equal Manhattan and MSG. Never."

The discussion was Brooklyn vs. Manhattan, and you brought up real estate development in Brooklyn for some reason.

You're an idiot. I'll just leave it at that.

[Steve Buscemi]

So is Newark. It doesn't make Newark anything other than Newark.

No.  Newark takes much longer to get to from any spot in NYC with the exception of Staten Island.  Newark's arena is nowhere near the quality of the Barclay's.  The area surrounding Newark sucks.  A tournament in Brooklyn is much more attractive.

As far as gentrification in Brooklyn, I believe you're wrong on that, too.  Due to its close proximity to Manhattan and its much more affordable rent, many neighborhoods in Brooklyn will remain very attractive places to live and commute.

[wildbillsb]

You're an idiot. I'll just leave it at that.

One of the things I most love about MUScoop is that no one name calls any other scooper.  Oh, and that there are no ad hominen arguments.
(Sheesh!)

[RyanConroy]

Brooklyn and Newark have little in common outside of their geographic proximity. Comparing the two makes little sense. Brooklyn is certainly a superior tournament location.

The Barclays Center is a great new stadium, but it doesn't have the prestige and tradition of MSG.

With regard to the location debate, midtown is far more developed than Fort Greene (Barclays Center location in Brooklyn), as Manhattan has been a famous destination for centuries. However, the Ft. Greene area near the Barclays Center is quite nice since the opening of the stadium.

Both are great destinations. MSG > Barclays.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Duke fans were pretty well represented tonight in NYC vs UCLA it seemed.

[Benny B]

The research triangle might be no.1 for Duke now. Even so, NYC is in the top two of Duke alumni hubs.
NYC is #3 for UNC.
NYC is #1 for Syracuse
NYC is #3 for Pitt
Plenty of subway domer homers for ND along with a strong alumni presence.
UL traveled extremely well while in the BE.
I'm sure NYC is top 5 for both BC and Miami.

I can't say for sure, but I'm pretty sure the largest city in America would be a top-ten "alumni hub" for just about every major university east of the Mississippi.

[MUMountin]

...after signing a deal with Barclays Center. Two conference tournaments will go head-to-head in the same city, possibly as soon as 2017. The B1G is also interested in NYC.

http://chapelboro.com/sports/acc/acc-tournament-going-new-york/

Isn't the A10 tourney at Barclay's?  How's that going to work?  Usually A10 is a little earlier in the week, but won't there be some overlap?

[Mutaman]

Used to be this place called.....it'll come to me,  oh yeah the Meadowlands. Remember the days when the Meadowlands Arena was going to take over from the Garden? Now its called the Izod Center or something like that  and its big attraction is the Harlem Globetrotters. Brooklyn ain't the Garden no matter how many folks are investing in real estate there.  

[pbiflyer]

Aw, look what fun the ACC fans have to look forward to: http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/28/us/new-york-mall-mob/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

[Mutaman]

Aw, look what fun the ACC fans have to look forward to: http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/28/us/new-york-mall-mob/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

No fan of Brooklyn, but the Kings Plazza Mall has as much relation to the Barclay Center, geographically and otherwise, as the Bradley Center does to the South Side of Chicago.