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GGGG

Quote from: Ners on December 13, 2013, 05:02:42 PM
Interesting to read the wording of the release....today Larry informed MU of his resignation, yet in the same day, MU already has Cords accepting the position...?  Pretty sure Larry at minimum knew the writing was on the wall that he would be replaced at some time in the near future...


I am pretty sure he was fired...they negotiated a buy out...and he was allowed to save face through a resignation. 

GGGG

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 13, 2013, 07:47:45 PM
Unless legislation changed in the last year, athletic dorms are still prohibited.  They were outlawed in 1991 phased out completely in 1996. 

As of 2012, that was still the NCAA's rule, but they were considering changing it (until they change it again down the road with a repeat of what happened in the SEC, SWC, etc that led to the original ban years ago).

The rules currently state at least 50% of the student dorm population must be non athletes.


You build a nice new residence hall for 50 people, you house the basketball team there and a bunch of graduate students.  Problem solved.

We R Final Four

Quote from: melissasmooth on December 13, 2013, 06:22:19 PM
Does this mean the basketball players are free again to roam the campus and do whatever they want without any consequences?

Wow--stay classy Smooth.

I guess this still means you can say whatever you want on a message board without any consequences or my guess is you wouldnt say such things.

4everwarriors

What do DiUlio, Pilarz, and Williams all have in common?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

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Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on December 14, 2013, 07:32:02 AM

I know Craig Pintens.  He would be the first to tell you he isn't qualified.  Broeker as AD...Pintens as assistant would be good.

Isn't qualified? The man it's just being humble. What do you think he did all those years with the Snappers? Twiddle his thumbs?

GGGG

Quote from: PTM on December 14, 2013, 08:07:45 AM
Isn't qualified? The man it's just being humble. What do you think he did all those years with the Snappers? Twiddle his thumbs?


He's a specialist.  He's a marketer...one of the best in the business...but he doesn't have the generalist exposure to a lot of the key things that an AD does. 

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Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on December 14, 2013, 08:14:53 AM

He's a specialist.  He's a marketer...one of the best in the business...but he doesn't have the generalist exposure to a lot of the key things that an AD does. 

There's a bit of tongue in cheek for the whole thing.

GGGG

Quote from: PTM on December 14, 2013, 08:16:30 AM
There's a bit of tongue in cheek for the whole thing.


Ah OK....

Goose

IMO this is either excellent news for fans of MU ball or very bad news. On the excellent side, the BOT decided Fr. P and LW did not understand the history of MU ball and the benefits that the program brings to the school. On the very bad news side, it could be there is an internal problem and Fr. P and LW decided to bolt before it was too late.

I personally would lean towards to excellent news, but with the limited information provided by the school and guys jumping ship it is difficult to say with 100% certainty. MU needs to far better job of making announcements and offering more disclosure on what leads up to these decisions.

For the record, I have no idea what is the reason why he left or was fired (if that was the case). I am hoping this turns into a long term positive for the men's basketball team at MU. Time will tell.

real chili 83

Quote from: Goose on December 14, 2013, 08:30:35 AM
IMO this is either excellent news for fans of MU ball or very bad news. On the excellent side, the BOT decided Fr. P and LW did not understand the history of MU ball and the benefits that the program brings to the school. On the very bad news side, it could be there is an internal problem and Fr. P and LW decided to bolt before it was too late.

I personally would lean towards to excellent news, but with the limited information provided by the school and guys jumping ship it is difficult to say with 100% certainty. MU needs to far better job of making announcements and offering more disclosure on what leads up to these decisions.

For the record, I have no idea what is the reason why he left or was fired (if that was the case). I am hoping this turns into a long term positive for the men's basketball team at MU. Time will tell.

Goose, this is as much of a 180 as possible from what your source(s) told you 18 months ago. Curious if your sources have/will leave now.

Gotta give Buzz credit for sticking it out.  I wonder if someone whispered in his ear "be patient, this be be taken care of" 18 months ago. 

Stuff like this doesn't "just happen".

GGGG

Quote from: Goose on December 14, 2013, 08:30:35 AM
I personally would lean towards to excellent news, but with the limited information provided by the school and guys jumping ship it is difficult to say with 100% certainty. MU needs to far better job of making announcements and offering more disclosure on what leads up to these decisions.


Why?  Those who need to know are certainly in the know.

ChicosBailBonds


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Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on December 14, 2013, 08:54:39 AM

Why?  Those who need to know are certainly in the know.

So some Scoopers can feel like they have inside sources again.

madtownwarrior

Hmmm...

Last Saturday at Wisconsin, Buzz Williams suspended junior guard Todd Mayo for one game for breaking a team rule. It was Mayo's third disciplinary incident at Marquette, and there are those in administration who believed the suspension should have been longer.

Quote from: madtownwarrior on December 14, 2013, 12:45:46 AM
How come no one relates this to the latest Mayo suspension ?


KenoshaWarrior

Quote from: keefe on December 13, 2013, 11:50:00 PM
Glow

The guy was fired less than 2 years into a strategically important posting. If you don't think Larry Williams was fired then I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale. There is a huge difference in reality between, "Larry Williams has left Marquette University to assume the same role at the University of X" and "Larry Williams has chosen to explore other opportunities."


I keep hearing how Jimmy Carter is a great guy. The man was a disaster as President. Larry Williams might be a lovable guy but, like Jimmy Carter, he was a terrible senior executive at my alma mater. Good riddance.

Do you really believe he wasn't fired?

Does it really matter? 
He is no longer working for Marquette.     

The Equalizer

Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on December 14, 2013, 07:34:20 AM

I am pretty sure he was fired...they negotiated a buy out...and he was allowed to save face through a resignation. 

Do you have any actual inside knowledge, or did you pull this from your ass?

jsglow

Quote from: keefe on December 13, 2013, 11:50:00 PM
Glow

The guy was fired less than 2 years into a strategically important posting. If you don't think Larry Williams was fired then I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale. There is a huge difference in reality between, "Larry Williams has left Marquette University to assume the same role at the University of X" and "Larry Williams has chosen to explore other opportunities."


I keep hearing how Jimmy Carter is a great guy. The man was a disaster as President. Larry Williams might be a lovable guy but, like Jimmy Carter, he was a terrible senior executive at my alma mater. Good riddance.

Do you really believe he wasn't fired?

Yes, Keefe.  I believe he was let go.  I just get a little miffed (and I'm not blaming you) when some people unnecessarily dance on his grave.  While I disagreed with some but not all of his initiatives, I personally found him to be a very nice man who always seemed genuinely interested in my perspectives. I wish him nothing but the best.

madtownwarrior

Maybe LW got tired of watching Buzz start the worst offensive backcourt in college basketball?

jsglow

Quote from: Goose on December 14, 2013, 08:30:35 AM
IMO this is either excellent news for fans of MU ball or very bad news. On the excellent side, the BOT decided Fr. P and LW did not understand the history of MU ball and the benefits that the program brings to the school. On the very bad news side, it could be there is an internal problem and Fr. P and LW decided to bolt before it was too late.

I personally would lean towards to excellent news, but with the limited information provided by the school and guys jumping ship it is difficult to say with 100% certainty. MU needs to far better job of making announcements and offering more disclosure on what leads up to these decisions.

For the record, I have no idea what is the reason why he left or was fired (if that was the case). I am hoping this turns into a long term positive for the men's basketball team at MU. Time will tell.

Goose,

No doubt there is an overall major shakeup underway that involves what I'll call the 'Pilarz crowd'.  I believe that each of the Pilarz direct reports on the Leadership Council that where brought in during his tenure have now left the university.  I will state emphatically that LW was not part of any 'Scranton crowd' that followed Pilarz here but was unearthed during a nationwide search by the committee headed by Allie McGuire and was the head and shoulders 'winner' among committee members of the three reported finalists.

I have reason to believe that 'much progress' has been made on numerous fronts (mostly not related to Athletics) since the Pilarz departure although I know for certain that Fr. Wild has fully embraced the Strategic Plan passed by the BOT last May.  I have also made a conscious decision not to press for more information although I'm confident that once the dust has fully settled I'll get the whole story.  That doesn't mean I'll necessarily share it though.  I appreciate your thoughtful posts.

4everwarriors

Absolutely great news for those of us who recognize the value of Buzz and the prospects of him stayin' long term at Marquette.
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

Sir Lawrence

Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 14, 2013, 10:00:48 AM
Absolutely great news for those of us who recognize the value of Buzz and the prospects of him stayin' long term at Marquette.

Amen, brother.
Ludum habemus.

ChitownSpaceForRent

From a student perspective pretty happy to see him and Pilarz go. Neither were liked by the students that much especially LW. He tried to micromanage wayyy to much and sent out too many emails.

tower912

Wonder if the new AD is going to censor cheers by the students.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

ChitownSpaceForRent

Quote from: tower912 on December 14, 2013, 10:48:45 AM
Wonder if the new AD is going to censor cheers by the students.

Im hoping we get the "Hey" chant back today!

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: jsglow on December 14, 2013, 09:52:22 AM
Goose,

No doubt there is an overall major shakeup underway that involves what I'll call the 'Pilarz crowd'.  I believe that each of the Pilarz direct reports on the Leadership Council that where brought in during his tenure have now left the university.  I will state emphatically that LW was not part of any 'Scranton crowd' that followed Pilarz here but was unearthed during a nationwide search by the committee headed by Allie McGuire and was the head and shoulders 'winner' among committee members of the three reported finalists.

The search was done by Parker.  Larry and Mary DiStanislao had ties together back to ND Athletics. Before she was named to her MU leadership role, she headed up the Marquette Athletics Review ordered by SP.  Oh, and she was a childhood friend of SP. Not to pick on you, but the statement that LW was not part of the Scranton crowd simply isn't true. Allie and Doc were just rubber stampers essentially.

This is not to say LW didn't have the qualifications or didn't have accomplishments...but the Pilarz regime's legacy is as an unmitigated disaster--that cannot be denied.  And LW tied his horse to that cart from Day 1. Thus, why should he and MU go on together?

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