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Next up: A long offseason

Marquette
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Marquette
Scrimmage
Date/Time: Oct 4, 2025
TV: NA
Schedule for 2024-25
New Mexico
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Who would you replace, if he was healthy tomorrow

Derrick Wilson
25 (28.7%)
Thomas
58 (66.7%)
Anderson
4 (4.6%)

Total Members Voted: 87

Voting closed: December 12, 2013, 03:56:04 PM

bilsu

Assuming Duane is as good as people say he is and he is able to play at full strength, who do you think he should replace?

GGGG

Are we over our roster limit or something?

brandx

Anderson has played pretty well. The other two are just warm bodies.

chapman

All three.  It will net out because we'd still be playing 3 on 5 like now.  The Savior just needs all the space he can get on the floor when working his magic.

mr.MUskie

I've never seen DuWil play. Is he really that good? Freshmen always get built up here, until they get on the court. Does anyone who has seen him really think he can make a difference?

Galway Eagle

if Johnson or Burton can't replace Thomas or Juan I doubt Duane would.  I'd expect/hope for him to replace Derrick though even if it was just for a game or two to try out. 
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mubb34

I have watched Wilson play 10+ times. The main thing that he would bring to the table is his ability to make plays and shoot the ball. The guy shot 56% from 3...I mean my God that's good...even if you are wide open. In Wilson's case many of those shots that he took were not wide open. I think he would bring a lot to the team and create space for Otule and the Ox....However, you would lose a lot of defense out there than having Derrick in.

Rudy

Pretty weak poll. D. None of the above. Thomas had a tough game. Wilson had a tough game. Ask Virginia's fans who they should replace of their guards while you are at it. Maybe ask St. John's and West Virginia the same thing.

Derek Wilson is going to be fine. Juan Anderson played pretty well, but was in trouble all day with fouls. Thomas was playing against a good team that has the ability to practice against players that are physically more gifted but otherwise with similar tools to him all the time. This is the perfect storm for him.

Maybe a better question is whether we would have been helped by having Todd Mayo available because he brings some tools to the party that they would have difficulty with, including the ability to rise and hit a pull up and the ability to get to the hole.

How are you annointing Duane Wilson to be any better than any of the three named. Getting the ball up the court may prove difficult for him. I have seen MU teams where we could not even get the ball over half court. Rob Logterman had to play point guard when Keith Stewart failed as a teammate. We actually had a forward bring the ball up the court (Ron Curry) for a good part of that season. Other times we had to have Marcus Jackson bring the ball up the court. Don't underestimate the ability to get the team into the sets or to defend the point that Derek Wilson brings to the table.

UWGB handed MU its lunch a couple years with Stanley Jackson playing point guard. The guy was under orders to shoot only layups. I think they went to the NCAA tournament two years with him as starting point guard. They were winning 22 plus games each year and he probably averaged less than 5 points a game.

There are different ways to win games. We could march a freshman out there that is recovering from injury and possibly waste a year of his eligibility, destroy his confidence and even lose more games.

The best is yet to come. Be patient. I saw some things I liked in that game. Not many teams look good offensively vs. UW this year.

B

Rudy


chapman

Quote from: Rudy on December 09, 2013, 06:07:25 PM
Ask Virginia's fans who they should replace of their guards while you are at it.

Just looked up their starting point guard's numbers...holy crap!  I'm guessing "London" means they actually are starting a girl?  Derrick probably dominated in that scrimmage.

Stretchdeltsig

I remember watching Junior play after being injured.  He really didn't help that much at the time other than he was another guard body that we needed.

After watching this year's team play I get the feeling that Duane Wilson could be a big lift to the team as the point guard and shooter.  It almost seems similar to the Packers' fate without Rodgers.  When will Duane play???

BCHoopster

To take the burden off him, I would play him at the 2 guard, he is good enough to play either but it might take him some time to learn the plays. run the team.  MU just needs some consistent outside play to open up the middle.  To much double teaming the bigs and defenses clogging the lane.

ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: BCHoopster on December 10, 2013, 09:49:29 AM
To take the burden off him, I would play him at the 2 guard, he is good enough to play either but it might take him some time to learn the plays. run the team.  MU just needs some consistent outside play to open up the middle.  To much double teaming the bigs and defenses clogging the lane.
I agree with this.  Another advantage would be multiple guards that are good at post entry passes, that really helps mitigate the advantage the defense has due to Derrick's man playing off him. 

BCHoopster

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on December 10, 2013, 09:51:56 AM
I agree with this.  Another advantage would be multiple guards that are good at post entry passes, that really helps mitigate the advantage the defense has due to Derrick's man playing off him. 

That is a good point, but Mayo needs to man up as a mature person vs. as Buzz says character revealed, yes, his character is revealed and it is not very good.  But in a month or so, the
line-up might be different.  Wilson, Wilson, Mayo, Wilson, and DG,  time will tell.  Juan needs to show some offensive talent if he wants to stay in the picture.

humanlung

DuWilson < His Potential Ceiling

DeWilson = His Potential Ceiling

JThomas = His Potential Ceiling

If he is able to return and earns it in practice, what can it hurt?

Markusquette

Duane is a threat on offense which is exactly what we need at point guard.  Any time a team has a guy who can score at point the offense really improves.  He's young, but he is a triple threat.  Can make plays, drive, and shoot from distance.  If he were healthy I would love the combo of Duane and Derek at point.

79Warrior

Quote from: BagpipingBoxer on December 09, 2013, 05:23:54 PM
if Johnson or Burton can't replace Thomas or Juan I doubt Duane would.  I'd expect/hope for him to replace Derrick though even if it was just for a game or two to try out. 

This. Buzz is going to stick with Derrick. Duane has missed to much time to step into Derick's shoes. Hopefully Duane will be able to contribute somewhere down the line, but it looks less likely with each passing game. He just is missing to much time so far this season.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: ATL MU Warrior on December 10, 2013, 09:51:56 AM
I agree with this.  Another advantage would be multiple guards that are good at post entry passes, that really helps mitigate the advantage the defense has due to Derrick's man playing off him. 

I agree with your agreeing.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Freeport Warrior

I've seen Wilson play many times and I thought he would be playing a ton by mid-season and taking minutes from De. Wilson right off the bat. De. Wilson would hang on to the starter spot because that's how Buzz does it. Duane isn't a pass first point guard, he is almost like a combo guard with a great handle. He had the scoring knack in high school similar to Good Mayo or DJO, where he just feels it and next thing you know he has scored on 5 straight possessions. How that translates to D1 ball, I don't know. I sure would like to find out. I get depressed at the tip when I see Jake and Derrick in there for two reasons: 1) I don't think they complement each other well, and 2) the realization that they must be the best we've got at this point. I am hoping by the end of the season to see a Duane Wilson, healthy Mayo, and Jamil on the court for extended periods. That could be a devastating line-up with our bigs.

GooooMarquette

Quote from: Stretchdeltsig on December 10, 2013, 09:46:22 AM
It almost seems similar to the Packers' fate without Rodgers.

Even with the "almost," it's ridiculous to compare the loss of an NFL MVP, Super Bowl winning, Super Bowl MVP QB with the highest passer rating in NFL history...with a freshman PG who has not played a single minute of college ball.  Unrealistic expectations?

MUfan12

Duane has a skill that the other backcourt players lack- he can make shots.

If he's healthy, and not totally lost on D, he will get minutes at the two.

Stretchdeltsig

Just consider the impact that the point guard for UWGB has on their games.  He is the difference maker!  They are winning because of his play.  We need Duane to play if we are to win this year.

Otule's Glass Eye

Not sure why anyone is hating on Juan, he makes very few mistakes, is a solid defender and takes good shots. He isn't a star, but he is a solid role player who continues to get better. I am not high on De. Wilson and Thomas, however.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: Otule's Glass Eye on December 10, 2013, 03:39:41 PM
Not sure why anyone is hating on Juan, he makes very few mistakes, is a solid defender and takes good shots. He isn't a star, but he is a solid role player who continues to get better. I am not high on De. Wilson and Thomas, however.

They are probably looking for stats.

As for me, I'd like to see him be more assertive on offense, i.e. look for his shot more.  It seems to me that opposing defenses play him to pass the ball and are almost always right.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

wadesworld

I think people need to lower their expectations on Duane.  Let's not forget that JJJ was doing everything Duane was in high school against higher level talent (the highest division in Memphis compared to D3 WIAA).  JJJ clearly has his moments where we see what he is capable of, but he's a freshman and just isn't ready to give us that every night.  Add to that the fact that Duane as practiced twice this year while everyone else is 2 months in and he has a lot of making up to do.  He'll be on the court (see the other thread...), but I would be shocked if he was taking Derrick's minutes with all the time he has missed.

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