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Markusquette

Quote from: madtownwarrior on December 07, 2013, 05:14:25 PM
you don't think playing this year would build their skills and confidence for next year?




This game really got you riled up madtown...wait, nevermind.  You have been for the last 4 years...

GGGG

Quote from: madtownwarrior on December 07, 2013, 05:14:25 PM
you don't think playing this year would build their skills and confidence for next year?



Not necessarily. 

PVMagic

Quote from: madtownwarrior on December 07, 2013, 05:14:25 PM
you don't think playing this year would build their skills and confidence for next year?

Could destroy their confidence if they are consistently overmatched and blown out of the water.

I trust Buzz because of his body of work over 5 years, not over a rough 9 game stretch in what was setting up to be a potentially rocky start to the year.

tower912

sweet 16, sweet 16, elite 8.   The pieces are not fitting together right now.   It will get better. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Sunbelt15

No starting shooting guard should play 25+ mins. and only take one shot. That's embarrassing and a major flaw for this team. Buzz has to make a change.

tower912

Mayo not available.   JJJ no more effective when he was in.   Stuck with the senior who knows where to be on every defensive set.    Look, I am ready for JJJ to step up and take over the starting 2G spot.   I just haven't yet seen that he is ready.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Sunbelt15

Quote from: tower912 on December 07, 2013, 07:40:13 PM
Mayo not available.   JJJ no more effective when he was in.   Stuck with the senior who knows where to be on every defensive set.    Look, I am ready for JJJ to step up and take over the starting 2G spot.   I just haven't yet seen that he is ready.   

Thomas should not start. The guard with the best driving ability should be on the floor. The rules of today's game put the odds of getting fouled in his favor. JJJ and Burton should be a better fit at the position with driving to the basket and creating contact being the main goal.

GGGG

Quote from: Sunbelt15 on December 07, 2013, 08:03:04 PM
Thomas should not start. The guard with the best driving ability should be on the floor. The rules of today's game put the odds of getting fouled in his favor. JJJ and Burton should be a better fit at the position with driving to the basket and creating contact being the main goal.


JJJ...fine

Burton isn't a guard.

Sunbelt15


Stretchdeltsig

Why does the team look so out of sync?  It seems like MU has a lot of talent but is being poorly coached.

jesmu84

Quote from: Sunbelt15 on December 07, 2013, 07:22:06 PM
No starting shooting guard should play 25+ mins. and only take one shot. That's embarrassing and a major flaw for this team. Buzz has to make a change.

Buzz is playing who gives him the best chance to win. Could jjj and dawson put up better offense than the starters? Maybe. Could jjj and dawson play better defense? No. So is buzz going to trade an almost guaranteed defensive drop for a possible offensive boost? Clearly he's not willing to roll the dice and I can't say I blame him. Now, the freshmen could improve their defense in the coming weeks or months and then I'd be on your side. Right now, the current high mpg guys are giving mu a better chance to win. In February? It may be a different dynamic. Just hib a have to live with it for now.

We R Final Four

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 07, 2013, 03:27:02 PM

They need to do a gutcheck or two in the coming weeks to decide what kind of season it will be.


Are you talking bout MU, IU, or KU?
Man sur could have used Wiggins today.

MU82

Quote from: madtownwarrior on December 07, 2013, 05:05:10 PM
What is Buzz doing well as he is now 5 - 4? 


Instead of making bets, you should be using your money to buy Fire Buzz billboards and put them up all over Milwaukee.

This coach is a loser. You know it, I know it, we all know it.

Sweet 16s? Please. They should have been Final Fours.

Elite Eight? Everybody knows that was pure luck, and Buzz is the only coach ever to benefit from first-round luck.

All he ever recruits is bad players. And switchables. And bad switchables.

And he's too loyal to players. We need a disloyal coach.

Let's fire this loser and hire somebody who can bring the Jabari Parkers and Anthony Wiggins to Marquette.

Fire Buzz. Fire him this instant and let's see if we can pry that Self guy from Kansas. He seems like a pretty decent coach, even if he did just lose to Colorado.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

MilWarrior

I know this season has been extremely disappointing so far, but THIS is the game that people decide to bitch about? On the road against a Top 10 team? I hate losing to UW-Madison as much as anyone here, but this one one of our better performances of the year. Badgers are playing great ball right now. Fortunately for us, there has been a trend of Bucky losing steam in March while we are starting to peak. I'll take that every year.

I love to have bragging rights over UW-Moscow and their legions of UW-Hyphen fans, but the season is long, and Buzz has a history of producing as the season progresses. If we're still hovering around .500 in late January, the bitching will be justified.

But honestly, we're a medium-sized Catholic university in Milwaukee with a good but not great pedigree. We won't be in the Elite 8 every year.

77ncaachamps

I trust Buzz.

But I don't trust the back court.
And apparently with the subbing, he doesn't either.
SS Marquette

Sunbelt15

Quote from: jesmu84 on December 07, 2013, 09:26:11 PM
Buzz is playing who gives him the best chance to win. Could jjj and dawson put up better offense than the starters? Maybe. Could jjj and dawson play better defense? No. So is buzz going to trade an almost guaranteed defensive drop for a possible offensive boost? Clearly he's not willing to roll the dice and I can't say I blame him. Now, the freshmen could improve their defense in the coming weeks or months and then I'd be on your side. Right now, the current high mpg guys are giving mu a better chance to win. In February? It may be a different dynamic. Just hib a have to live with it for now.

Thomas gives us the best chance to win?  Ok!  Agree to disagree.

willie warrior

Quote from: 77ncaachamps on December 08, 2013, 01:07:12 AM
I trust Buzz.

But I don't trust the back court.
And apparently with the subbing, he doesn't either.
In Buzz we trust--In Buzz we trust. That mantra is really old.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: We R Final Four on December 07, 2013, 09:30:53 PM
Are you talking bout MU, IU, or KU?
Man sur could have used Wiggins today.


I'm not worried about KU.  IU is really young, but for the most part playing pretty good.  I'm talking about MU.

Dreadman24

Quote from: MU82 on December 07, 2013, 09:36:31 PM
Instead of making bets, you should be using your money to buy Fire Buzz billboards and put them up all over Milwaukee.

This coach is a loser. You know it, I know it, we all know it.

Sweet 16s? Please. They should have been Final Fours.

Elite Eight? Everybody knows that was pure luck, and Buzz is the only coach ever to benefit from first-round luck.

All he ever recruits is bad players. And switchables. And bad switchables.

And he's too loyal to players. We need a disloyal coach.

Let's fire this loser and hire somebody who can bring the Jabari Parkers and Anthony Wiggins to Marquette.

Fire Buzz. Fire him this instant and let's see if we can pry that Self guy from Kansas. He seems like a pretty decent coach, even if he did just lose to Colorado.
Im all in

Dreadman24

Buzz sucks as a recruiter. We couldve had Looney but BUZZ stopped recruiting him. And btw I wasnt ever on the Buzz bandwagon I hope he does go to Texas.

GGGG

Quote from: Dreadman24 on December 08, 2013, 09:12:17 AM
Buzz sucks as a recruiter. We couldve had Looney but BUZZ stopped recruiting him. And btw I wasnt ever on the Buzz bandwagon I hope he does go to Texas.


Well, history has pretty much proven you wrong.

tower912

Some of you guys, I swear it is satire.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

hairy worthen

Quote from: Dreadman24 on December 08, 2013, 09:12:17 AM
Buzz sucks as a recruiter. We couldve had Looney but BUZZ stopped recruiting him. And btw I wasnt ever on the Buzz bandwagon I hope he does go to Texas.
Dumb ass.  Nothing else really needs to be said. That goes for Willie and  madtown as well. Just,  dumb ass.  You don't dignify any other response

madtownwarrior

never said to fire Buzz, quite the opposite actually.  

Very surprised Buzz has got this team the where they are now -   It does not look to be getting a whole lot better with De Willson and Jake.   This team has serious deficiencies in the backcourt (who's fault is that?).   The freshman obviously are either not as good as ranked or Buzz's schemes are too complicated for very talented 18 years old to master.

We have ample "switchables", we have no PG (hopefully Duane Wilson but when will he actually start under Buzz - Junior year?), no shooters and after this year, no centers in the near future...

Sorry, I really, realy, like Buzz as a coach but this team is in a bad state right now, it happens, and not all of it Buzz could predict (Vander leaving early, McKay bolting, Duane injury, Mayo suspenions and Taylor injury).  

You do have to agree this team has a lot of "drama" around all the mysterious player departures or suspensions...











Quote from: MU82 on December 07, 2013, 09:36:31 PM
Instead of making bets, you should be using your money to buy Fire Buzz billboards and put them up all over Milwaukee.

This coach is a loser. You know it, I know it, we all know it.

Sweet 16s? Please. They should have been Final Fours.

Elite Eight? Everybody knows that was pure luck, and Buzz is the only coach ever to benefit from first-round luck.

All he ever recruits is bad players. And switchables. And bad switchables.

And he's too loyal to players. We need a disloyal coach.

Let's fire this loser and hire somebody who can bring the Jabari Parkers and Anthony Wiggins to Marquette.

Fire Buzz. Fire him this instant and let's see if we can pry that Self guy from Kansas. He seems like a pretty decent coach, even if he did just lose to Colorado.

MU82

Quote from: madtownwarrior on December 08, 2013, 09:34:18 AM
never said to fire Buzz, quite the opposite actually.  

Very surprised Buzz has got this team the where they are now -   It does not look to be getting a whole lot better with De Willson and Jake.   This team has serious deficiencies in the backcourt (who's fault is that?).   The freshman obviously are either not as good as ranked or Buzz's schemes are too complicated for very talented 18 years old to master.

We have ample "switchables", we have no PG (hopefully Duane Wilson but when will he actually start under Buzz - Junior year?), no shooters and after this year, no centers in the near future...

Sorry, I really, realy, like Buzz as a coach but this team is in a bad state right now, it happens, and not all of it Buzz could predict (Vander leaving early, McKay bolting, Duane injury, Mayo suspenions and Taylor injury).  

You do have to agree this team has a lot of "drama" around all the mysterious player departures or suspensions...












I am not a pollyanna guy who always looks at the Marquette situation through blue-and-gold glasses. I like to think of myself as a realist. I have been critical of many things surrounding this year's team, too, primarily the backcourt issues.

Having said that, I do look for the positives, too. It must be very difficult to go through life only ripping, only focusing on the negatives.

If I was like that, I seriously would stop being a fan. Life is too short.
"It's not how white men fight." - Tucker Carlson

"Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." - George Washington

"In a time of deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." - George Orwell

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