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MUScoop => Hangin' at the Al => Topic started by: ErickJD08 on December 07, 2013, 02:57:31 PM
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Can you please stop? You add nothing. Buzz has taken this team to S16,S16, E8 the last three years. Name another coach that has done that and then ask if they would quit their job to come here. We are playing a better team at their home without our better scorer and our gem of the class not playing. If you think Buzz is a bad coach because we are not cruising through this game, you're dumb and keep your Buzz is a bad coach comments to yourself.
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Buzz is great at 5 - 4 this year.
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Can you please stop? You add nothing. Buzz has taken this team to S16,S16, E8 the last three years. Name another coach that has done that and then ask if they would quit their job to come here. We are playing a better team at their home without our better scorer and our gem of the class not playing. If you think Buzz is a bad coach because we are not cruising through this game, you're dumb and keep your Buzz is a bad coach comments to yourself.
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I just hate who ever thinks its a brilliant idea to start a backcourt that scores 3 pts along with 2 other guys who can't shoot or score on their own.
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In Buzz we trust at 5 - 4 ...
I just hate who ever thinks its a brilliant idea to start a backcourt that scores 3 pts along with 2 other guys who can't shoot or score on their own.
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Buzz is great at 5 - 4 this year.
Why are you such a troll? Again, who else should have played?
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I just hate who ever thinks its a brilliant idea to start a backcourt that scores 3 pts along with 2 other guys who can't shoot or score on their own.
We should be starting Smart and Parker in the backcourt but Buzz is making them ride the bench.
Who the hell do you think we are not playing?
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I just hate who ever thinks its a brilliant idea to start a backcourt that scores 3 pts along with 2 other guys who can't shoot or score on their own.
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We should be starting Smart and Parker in the backcourt but Buzz is making them ride the bench.
Who the hell do you think we are not playing?
Mayo(when not suspended). Burton. JJJ. Ox should start immediately following the tip. Mis well give Dawson extended minutes.
What we are doing now is clearly NOT working. Why not give major minutes to other guys and see what happens? Worst case, we continue losing to all decent teams we play...seems to be enjoyed by people on here.
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Mayo(when not suspended). Burton. JJJ. Ox should start immediately following the tip. Mis well give Dawson extended minutes.
Burton and JJJ are starting to earn minutes. Mayo I will grant, but he's got to earn that and I'm not sure he has been. And why would anyone still be endorsing Dawson? The kid has literally done nothing. The only defense is the Ners "he played well versus Grambling" defense. And if you want to play that card, maybe I should be the starting point guard, because I'm pretty sure that I could have put up a double-double on Grambling.
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Thought we played a better team on the road and lost. Guys didn't give up, put a scare into them at the end.
Nothing has changed for me with this team since the beginning. Guard play is suspect and college ball is first and foremost a guard's game. Certainly the lineups are ripe for speculation, if we think there are guys that could be playing that aren't. Buzz doesn't like to play freshmen, that is clear. Mayo....what can you say.
They need to do a gutcheck or two in the coming weeks to decide what kind of season it will be.
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Agreed Erick. Hmmm, let me say this again. We lost three starters and star player from last year. Our talented players on the bench are still inexperienced. I don't want Jamil playing the point all the time and there's no way Dawson does any better than Wilson. I love me some Burton and Johnson but they have plenty of lapses on D and forced shots on offense. Missing Mayo and Duane today hurt. Steve is a disappointment so far (injured too).
Granted the end of the game was closer than it seemingly should have been, but we had a chance. Didn't crap the bed like vs. Ohio St. at home. Fouls and rebounding hurt us today. The badgers looked good and they have plenty of talented, experienced players at all positions. We're spoiled as Marquette fans lately. I don't think we played that badly overall today. The score certainly indicates we didn't based on the way the Badgers played. I think conference play will be telling this year.
If we can get Duane back in a few weeks, Todd straightened out and Steve back to how he was last year the team is transformed. I hype Duane up a lot (to myself) but I think his quickness, play making and shooting is the biggest thing we need. Derek is best suited as a defensive stopper off the bench and I really like him for that. Not fair for Derek and Jake to always be thrown under the bus. Clearly Mayo is messing up all over, and Jajuan is still learning a lot. Buzz would be rewarding Mayo or Johnson if they deserved to be starting.
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Buzz would be rewarding Mayo or Johnson if they deserved to be starting.
Exactly. You guys think that Buzz doesn't realize there is an offensive problem?
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Mayo(when not suspended). Burton. JJJ. Ox should start immediately following the tip. Mis well give Dawson extended minutes.
What we are doing now is clearly NOT working. Why not give major minutes to other guys and see what happens? Worst case, we continue losing to all decent teams we play...seems to be enjoyed by people on here.
Burton is a black hole on offense that makes freshman mistakes (turnovers and poor defense). He is not a better option if the goal is to win games this year. He is progressing and earning more time.
JJJ had two nice games against poor competition, he has not demonstrated an ability to score or create in other opportunities. He played well against ASU, but was outplayed in that game by Thomas. When he got time in this game he was unable to do anything on either end of the floor. Again, if you want to win this year, not a realistic opportunity at this point. But he is progressing well and earning more time because of it.
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Let's congratulate Buzz for the 5 - 4 start, after playing the studs of ASU and SDSU and only losing by 6 to Bucky on the road with a player suspended that he recruited...
Clearly the starting lineup sucks for offense, but keep trotting them out there. Clearly Buzz under-recruited at PG and SG. And next year we have no front court to speak of....
But keep defending him on those points...
Why are you such a troll? Again, who else should have played?
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His incoming PG recruit is injured and the player he might have been relying on to aid the transition (Blue) bounced leaving him 2 short of where he thought he'd be at the 1 in April.
A loss is never good but it was unreasonable to expects/demand a win against a very good team ("likely" top 20) on the road. Other than play Mayo I don't know what he could have done differently today.
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Let's congratulate Buzz for the 5 - 4 start, after playing the studs of ASU and SDSU and only losing by 6 to Bucky on the road with a player suspended that he recruited...
Clearly the starting lineup sucks for offensive. Clearly Buzz under-recruited at PG and SG..
But keep defending him on those points...
Yeah, Buzz should have told Duane Wilson not to get injured. Shame on him. We all know how surprised even Buzz was when Vander left. He plays significant minutes at point this year and we have 3 true point guards behind him too. Buzz didn't under-recruit at point. Two things happened that forced him to eventually use Jamil Wilson as our backup PG. If Mayo wasn't such a variable and had his head on straight we're fine at SG too.
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Mayo(when not suspended). Burton. JJJ. Ox should start immediately following the tip. Mis well give Dawson extended minutes.
What we are doing now is clearly NOT working. Why not give major minutes to other guys and see what happens? Worst case, we continue losing to all decent teams we play...seems to be enjoyed by people on here.
We were within one possession against a highly rated team at their home with a minute left and "what we are doing is clearly NOT working"? Seriously. And your mad because Buzz isn't playing every single freshmen more? You sound really intelligent
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maybe if we recruited all "switchables" we would win...
His incoming PG recruit is injured and the player he might have been relying on to aid the transition (Blue) bounced leaving him 2 short of where he thought he'd be at the 1 in April.
A loss is never good but it was unreasonable to expects/demand a win against a very good team ("likely" top 20) on the road. Other than play Mayo I don't know what he could have done differently today.
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Damn, I hate agreeing with Chico, but the reality is MU just lost to a top 10 team on the road. Get a grip.
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"If we can get Duane back in a few weeks, Todd straightened out and Steve back to how he was last year the team is transformed"
That is a lot of "if's"
I think the "if" that should be considered is the NIT...
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Madtown, right here, right now. If MU goes to the NIT, I stay off the board for 3 months. If MU goes to the dance, you do. Your call.
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"If we can get Duane back in a few weeks, Todd straightened out and Steve back to how he was last year the team is transformed"
That is a lot of "if's"
I think the "if" that should be considered is the NIT...
Yeah? And it's not out of the question. Not saying I am banking on it but if Duane is better than Derek on offense from the get-go we are in a totally different position. Maybe it gets Mayo in the right state of mind and Taylor in a groove on offense too.
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Why is it considered "hate" when the Coach is criticized. We have all this talent and are losing to "Inferior" teams. Let's see: Ja. Wilson, Du. Wilson, JJJ, Anderson, De. Wilson, Burton are all top 100 recruits. We start a "wealth" of experience; a 6 year senior, two 5 year seniors, a senior off the bench and two Jrs. How many top 100 recruits does Wis. have?
This team is not playing well--should be playing better. So maybe the coach deserves some criticism, and that does not make one a hater. Hater is a made up word to discredit somebody who you do not agree with.
Maybe with the record of 5-4, the "Buzz Kool Aid slurpers" should be ashamed.
I am confident that we all will be praising Buzz with our next cupcake victory.
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how about the same bet I did with Goose last year - $100 gift certificate to the winner. I say MU NIT, you say NCAA?
Madtown, right here, right now. If MU goes to the NIT, I stay off the board for 3 months. If MU goes to the dance, you do. Your call.
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"If we can get Duane back in a few weeks, Todd straightened out and Steve back to how he was last year the team is transformed"
That is a lot of "if's"
I think the "if" that should be considered is the NIT...
Good luck on getting Mayo straightened out. He had had more chances than Joe Pesci at the Blackjack table in Casino.
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Madtown, right here, right now. If MU goes to the NIT, I stay off the board for 3 months. If MU goes to the dance, you do. Your call.
LOL! I was just gonna offer the same bet to interested parties.
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how about the same bet I did with Goose last year - $100 gift certificate to the winner. I say MU NIT, you say NCAA?
I'll take a piece of that action.
MU makes the NCAA tournament.
Make it any amount you want. (Under $1K).
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Not Buzz's fault none of these guys show up consistently to play.
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other than he recruited them and motivates them on a daily basis...
Not Buzz's fault none of these guys show up consistently to play.
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maybe if we recruited all "switchables" we would win...
Are you suggesting he should have recruited us to be 4 deep at point guard going into the year instead of 3?
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other than he recruited them and motivates them on a daily basis...
So what's your solution? You are good at bitching about it. Should we fire buzz?
It simply amazes me how short sighted and ignorant some fans are. We are blessed with the best coach since al and all you can do is bitch. Get a fricken grip we lost to a good team at a place where they very seldom lose. They are not that far away, be patient.
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Hairy
Agreed on all your points. My only gripe is Buzz's decision to play guys that are not D1 players. I think I was the only guy last spring that was happy Jua and JT were leaving and hoping CO would move on. That is three spots that are not filled by JUCO's or freshmen.
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Hairy
Agreed on all your points. My only gripe is Buzz's decision to play guys that are not D1 players. I think I was the only guy last spring that was happy Jua and JT were leaving and hoping CO would move on. That is three spots that are not filled by JUCO's or freshmen.
No one who isn't starting has earned a starting spot.
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Sultan
Same can be said of three of the starters. I love Buzz as much as next guy, but give me a break.
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Why is it considered "hate" when the Coach is criticized. We have all this talent and are losing to "Inferior" teams. Let's see: Ja. Wilson, Du. Wilson, JJJ, Anderson, De. Wilson, Burton are all top 100 recruits. We start a "wealth" of experience; a 6 year senior, two 5 year seniors, a senior off the bench and two Jrs. How many top 100 recruits does Wis. have?
This team is not playing well--should be playing better. So maybe the coach deserves some criticism, and that does not make one a hater. Hater is a made up word to discredit somebody who you do not agree with.
Maybe with the record of 5-4, the "Buzz Kool Aid slurpers" should be ashamed.
I am confident that we all will be praising Buzz with our next cupcake victory.
Criticism is fine. Calling him the worst coach and hoping he gets fired is another. Not saying you were doing it but that is who I am telling to shut it.
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Hairy
Agreed on all your points. My only gripe is Buzz's decision to play guys that are not D1 players. I think I was the only guy last spring that was happy Jua and JT were leaving and hoping CO would move on. That is three spots that are not filled by JUCO's or freshmen.
I think losing du. Wil put them in a bad spot. I have no problem playing der Wilson right now because that's really all they have. No Dawson is not a solid option. My gripe would be with playing Jake so much. Damn he is bad. He is a situational player at best. I think jjj will emerge, we have seen signs of it.
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Damn, I hate agreeing with Chico, but the reality is MU just lost to a top 10 team on the road. Get a grip.
It feels right, you just need to do it more often and you'll be on the right side of the ledger more often than not. ;)
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Hairy
Agree again. If Duane Wilson is healthy soon I would start him and JJ and play the season out. Loseing Wilson hurt big time. I really miss Vander Blue.
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No one who isn't starting has earned a starting spot.
I'm just getting uncomfortable with it always being put on them for not having "earned it". Are we bringing in the wrong players, or are we failing to develop them since they aren't better than our current minutes earners despite having a significant talent advantage?
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I'm just getting uncomfortable with it always being put on them for not having "earned it". Are we bringing in the wrong players, or are we failing to develop them since they aren't better than our current minutes earners despite having a significant talent advantage?
They're freshmen. We always expect more than they can reasonably deliver.
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I wasn't aware some of you guys witness every practice and interact with the players on a daily basis. Surely Buzz is doing a lot of things wrong. I hear he has been too preoccupied watching youtube highlight reels of potential recruits trying to assemble a new back court duo for the future.
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I like time away better.
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What is Buzz doing well as he is now 5 - 4?
I wasn't aware some of you guys witness every practice and interact with the players on a daily basis. Surely Buzz is doing a lot of things wrong. I hear he has been too preoccupied watching youtube highlight reels of potential recruits trying to assemble a new back court duo for the future.
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What is Buzz doing well as he is now 5 - 4?
I know. Why don't you become a badger fan they are 10-0.
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Thought we played a better team on the road and lost. Guys didn't give up, put a scare into them at the end.
Nothing has changed for me with this team since the beginning. Guard play is suspect and college ball is first and foremost a guard's game. Certainly the lineups are ripe for speculation, if we think there are guys that could be playing that aren't. Buzz doesn't like to play freshmen, that is clear. Mayo....what can you say.
They need to do a gutcheck or two in the coming weeks to decide what kind of season it will be.
When we have the guards we don't have the bigs; when we have the bigs we don't have the guards. Our upper classmen are not taking charge like our past teams. Think this is our transition year if Buzz plays the frosh more, if not next year could be worse.
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Why do people keep thinking that if we play freshmen more now, that it would automatically mean they would be better next year?
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you don't think playing this year would build their skills and confidence for next year?
Why do people keep thinking that if we play freshmen more now, that it would automatically mean they would be better next year?
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you don't think playing this year would build their skills and confidence for next year?
This game really got you riled up madtown...wait, nevermind. You have been for the last 4 years...
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you don't think playing this year would build their skills and confidence for next year?
Not necessarily.
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you don't think playing this year would build their skills and confidence for next year?
Could destroy their confidence if they are consistently overmatched and blown out of the water.
I trust Buzz because of his body of work over 5 years, not over a rough 9 game stretch in what was setting up to be a potentially rocky start to the year.
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sweet 16, sweet 16, elite 8. The pieces are not fitting together right now. It will get better.
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No starting shooting guard should play 25+ mins. and only take one shot. That's embarrassing and a major flaw for this team. Buzz has to make a change.
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Mayo not available. JJJ no more effective when he was in. Stuck with the senior who knows where to be on every defensive set. Look, I am ready for JJJ to step up and take over the starting 2G spot. I just haven't yet seen that he is ready.
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Mayo not available. JJJ no more effective when he was in. Stuck with the senior who knows where to be on every defensive set. Look, I am ready for JJJ to step up and take over the starting 2G spot. I just haven't yet seen that he is ready.
Thomas should not start. The guard with the best driving ability should be on the floor. The rules of today's game put the odds of getting fouled in his favor. JJJ and Burton should be a better fit at the position with driving to the basket and creating contact being the main goal.
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Thomas should not start. The guard with the best driving ability should be on the floor. The rules of today's game put the odds of getting fouled in his favor. JJJ and Burton should be a better fit at the position with driving to the basket and creating contact being the main goal.
JJJ...fine
Burton isn't a guard.
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JJJ...fine
Burton isn't a guard.
But he can catch and drive to the basket under control.
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Why does the team look so out of sync? It seems like MU has a lot of talent but is being poorly coached.
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No starting shooting guard should play 25+ mins. and only take one shot. That's embarrassing and a major flaw for this team. Buzz has to make a change.
Buzz is playing who gives him the best chance to win. Could jjj and dawson put up better offense than the starters? Maybe. Could jjj and dawson play better defense? No. So is buzz going to trade an almost guaranteed defensive drop for a possible offensive boost? Clearly he's not willing to roll the dice and I can't say I blame him. Now, the freshmen could improve their defense in the coming weeks or months and then I'd be on your side. Right now, the current high mpg guys are giving mu a better chance to win. In February? It may be a different dynamic. Just hib a have to live with it for now.
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They need to do a gutcheck or two in the coming weeks to decide what kind of season it will be.
Are you talking bout MU, IU, or KU?
Man sur could have used Wiggins today.
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What is Buzz doing well as he is now 5 - 4?
Instead of making bets, you should be using your money to buy Fire Buzz billboards and put them up all over Milwaukee.
This coach is a loser. You know it, I know it, we all know it.
Sweet 16s? Please. They should have been Final Fours.
Elite Eight? Everybody knows that was pure luck, and Buzz is the only coach ever to benefit from first-round luck.
All he ever recruits is bad players. And switchables. And bad switchables.
And he's too loyal to players. We need a disloyal coach.
Let's fire this loser and hire somebody who can bring the Jabari Parkers and Anthony Wiggins to Marquette.
Fire Buzz. Fire him this instant and let's see if we can pry that Self guy from Kansas. He seems like a pretty decent coach, even if he did just lose to Colorado.
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I know this season has been extremely disappointing so far, but THIS is the game that people decide to bitch about? On the road against a Top 10 team? I hate losing to UW-Madison as much as anyone here, but this one one of our better performances of the year. Badgers are playing great ball right now. Fortunately for us, there has been a trend of Bucky losing steam in March while we are starting to peak. I'll take that every year.
I love to have bragging rights over UW-Moscow and their legions of UW-Hyphen fans, but the season is long, and Buzz has a history of producing as the season progresses. If we're still hovering around .500 in late January, the bitching will be justified.
But honestly, we're a medium-sized Catholic university in Milwaukee with a good but not great pedigree. We won't be in the Elite 8 every year.
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I trust Buzz.
But I don't trust the back court.
And apparently with the subbing, he doesn't either.
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Buzz is playing who gives him the best chance to win. Could jjj and dawson put up better offense than the starters? Maybe. Could jjj and dawson play better defense? No. So is buzz going to trade an almost guaranteed defensive drop for a possible offensive boost? Clearly he's not willing to roll the dice and I can't say I blame him. Now, the freshmen could improve their defense in the coming weeks or months and then I'd be on your side. Right now, the current high mpg guys are giving mu a better chance to win. In February? It may be a different dynamic. Just hib a have to live with it for now.
Thomas gives us the best chance to win? Ok! Agree to disagree.
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I trust Buzz.
But I don't trust the back court.
And apparently with the subbing, he doesn't either.
In Buzz we trust--In Buzz we trust. That mantra is really old.
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Are you talking bout MU, IU, or KU?
Man sur could have used Wiggins today.
I'm not worried about KU. IU is really young, but for the most part playing pretty good. I'm talking about MU.
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Instead of making bets, you should be using your money to buy Fire Buzz billboards and put them up all over Milwaukee.
This coach is a loser. You know it, I know it, we all know it.
Sweet 16s? Please. They should have been Final Fours.
Elite Eight? Everybody knows that was pure luck, and Buzz is the only coach ever to benefit from first-round luck.
All he ever recruits is bad players. And switchables. And bad switchables.
And he's too loyal to players. We need a disloyal coach.
Let's fire this loser and hire somebody who can bring the Jabari Parkers and Anthony Wiggins to Marquette.
Fire Buzz. Fire him this instant and let's see if we can pry that Self guy from Kansas. He seems like a pretty decent coach, even if he did just lose to Colorado.
Im all in
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Buzz sucks as a recruiter. We couldve had Looney but BUZZ stopped recruiting him. And btw I wasnt ever on the Buzz bandwagon I hope he does go to Texas.
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Buzz sucks as a recruiter. We couldve had Looney but BUZZ stopped recruiting him. And btw I wasnt ever on the Buzz bandwagon I hope he does go to Texas.
Well, history has pretty much proven you wrong.
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Some of you guys, I swear it is satire.
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Buzz sucks as a recruiter. We couldve had Looney but BUZZ stopped recruiting him. And btw I wasnt ever on the Buzz bandwagon I hope he does go to Texas.
Dumb ass. Nothing else really needs to be said. That goes for Willie and madtown as well. Just, dumb ass. You don't dignify any other response
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never said to fire Buzz, quite the opposite actually.
Very surprised Buzz has got this team the where they are now - It does not look to be getting a whole lot better with De Willson and Jake. This team has serious deficiencies in the backcourt (who's fault is that?). The freshman obviously are either not as good as ranked or Buzz's schemes are too complicated for very talented 18 years old to master.
We have ample "switchables", we have no PG (hopefully Duane Wilson but when will he actually start under Buzz - Junior year?), no shooters and after this year, no centers in the near future...
Sorry, I really, realy, like Buzz as a coach but this team is in a bad state right now, it happens, and not all of it Buzz could predict (Vander leaving early, McKay bolting, Duane injury, Mayo suspenions and Taylor injury).
You do have to agree this team has a lot of "drama" around all the mysterious player departures or suspensions...
Instead of making bets, you should be using your money to buy Fire Buzz billboards and put them up all over Milwaukee.
This coach is a loser. You know it, I know it, we all know it.
Sweet 16s? Please. They should have been Final Fours.
Elite Eight? Everybody knows that was pure luck, and Buzz is the only coach ever to benefit from first-round luck.
All he ever recruits is bad players. And switchables. And bad switchables.
And he's too loyal to players. We need a disloyal coach.
Let's fire this loser and hire somebody who can bring the Jabari Parkers and Anthony Wiggins to Marquette.
Fire Buzz. Fire him this instant and let's see if we can pry that Self guy from Kansas. He seems like a pretty decent coach, even if he did just lose to Colorado.
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never said to fire Buzz, quite the opposite actually.
Very surprised Buzz has got this team the where they are now - It does not look to be getting a whole lot better with De Willson and Jake. This team has serious deficiencies in the backcourt (who's fault is that?). The freshman obviously are either not as good as ranked or Buzz's schemes are too complicated for very talented 18 years old to master.
We have ample "switchables", we have no PG (hopefully Duane Wilson but when will he actually start under Buzz - Junior year?), no shooters and after this year, no centers in the near future...
Sorry, I really, realy, like Buzz as a coach but this team is in a bad state right now, it happens, and not all of it Buzz could predict (Vander leaving early, McKay bolting, Duane injury, Mayo suspenions and Taylor injury).
You do have to agree this team has a lot of "drama" around all the mysterious player departures or suspensions...
I am not a pollyanna guy who always looks at the Marquette situation through blue-and-gold glasses. I like to think of myself as a realist. I have been critical of many things surrounding this year's team, too, primarily the backcourt issues.
Having said that, I do look for the positives, too. It must be very difficult to go through life only ripping, only focusing on the negatives.
If I was like that, I seriously would stop being a fan. Life is too short.
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Dumb ass. Nothing else really needs to be said. That goes for Willie and madtown as well. Just, dumb ass. You don't dignify any other response
That's right Hairy. If you can't handle opinions pound the table and call names. Perhaps it is the proverbial pot...
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Buzz sucks as a recruiter. We couldve had Looney but BUZZ stopped recruiting him. And btw I wasnt ever on the Buzz bandwagon I hope he does go to Texas.
Wow! This sounds like something personal. You need a hug. :-\
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Buzz sucks as a recruiter. We couldve had Looney but BUZZ stopped recruiting him. And btw I wasnt ever on the Buzz bandwagon I hope he does go to Texas.
We had no shot at Looney. Silly to put resources against someone that wasn't coming to MU.