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MUSF

Quote from: mu03eng on December 05, 2013, 12:37:29 PM
I don't think Wisconsin's defense is as suffocating this year as it has been in past years.  I think they can be broken down off the dribble and Kaminsky isn't a great rim protector on the back side.  Our strength is the dribble drive(other than Jake) and I think JJJ and Burton both have a chance to make an impact in that regard.

I don't think they've ever been that "suffocating" on D, and they are typically susceptible to penetration. That stated, they usually play good positional and help D to overcome their weaknesses. The real difficulty against Wisconsin is their ability to slow down the pace by using up the shot clock and making faster paced teams use up the shot clock to get good looks. It gets even more difficult if they start getting offensive boards and/or turnovers.

mu03eng

Another random thought.....Who gets helped/hurt more by the new/re-emphasized/magically made up contact rules?
"A Plan? Oh man, I hate plans. That means were gonna have to do stuff. Can't we just have a strategy......or a mission statement."

mu03eng

Quote from: MUSF on December 05, 2013, 12:46:15 PM
I don't think they've ever been that "suffocating" on D, and they are typically susceptible to penetration. That stated, they usually play good positional and help D to overcome their weaknesses. The real difficulty against Wisconsin is their ability to slow down the pace by using up the shot clock and making faster paced teams use up the shot clock to get good looks. It gets even more difficult if they start getting offensive boards and/or turnovers.

I feel this year more than ever they are allowing teams to get to the hoop, could be wrong but just the impression I get.  Seem very susceptible to side to side passing followed by penetration.
"A Plan? Oh man, I hate plans. That means were gonna have to do stuff. Can't we just have a strategy......or a mission statement."

keefe

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on December 05, 2013, 10:42:39 AM
Why are you constantly an insufferable whiner?

Oh the irony. I guess a self-righteous insufferable whiner would recognize a fellow traveler...Still yearning for creativity??


Death on call

keefe

Quote from: mu03eng on December 05, 2013, 12:38:08 PM
tOSU is a better defensive team than Becky.

Matta's teams will always be better than Ryan's.


Death on call

Wade for President

Quote from: mu03eng on December 05, 2013, 12:38:08 PM
tOSU is a better defensive team than Becky.

I won't disagree with your point, however my comments were directed more to the challenge that MU has to consistently put points on the board (scoring 35 points at home should never be acceptable, regardless of the opponent), as well as how effective Wisco is at slowing the game down to a snail's pace.

Over/Under for Saturday is currently set at 54.  Place your bets.

willie warrior

Quote from: Hards_Alumni on December 05, 2013, 10:42:39 AM
Why are you constantly an insufferable whiner?
Don't see what I said as whining, but sure as hell you are doing the whining!!!!!!!!! Once again, somebody inferring something not there.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

GGGG

Quote from: willie warrior on December 05, 2013, 01:42:28 PM
Don't see what I said as whining, but sure as hell you are doing the whining!!!!!!!!! Once again, somebody inferring something not there.


If multiple people think you are whining, regardless of your intent, perhaps you need to communicate your thoughts more effectively.

Hards Alumni

Quote from: keefe on December 05, 2013, 01:25:51 PM
Oh the irony. I guess a self-righteous insufferable whiner would recognize a fellow traveler...Still yearning for creativity??

You're right.  By checking my recent post list you'd see that I am all about the whining.  Selective memory in play today?

ChicosBailBonds

I think they will beat us.  Hope I'm wrong.  Those are my thoughts on Wisconsin-madison.


Lennys Tap

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 05, 2013, 03:07:01 PM
I think they will beat us.  Hope I'm wrong.  Those are my thoughts on Wisconsin-madison.



Huge favorites.

willie warrior

Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on December 05, 2013, 01:49:00 PM

If multiple people think you are whining, regardless of your intent, perhaps you need to communicate your thoughts more effectively.
I always do. You and others extrapolate your inferences. Usually wrong, I might add. But hey, it is a message board where all of us , including Sultan and myself can shoot off their opinions on anything. Like the ones who opine that I do not like MU or Buzz or Otule. By the way that is my order of preference.
I thought you were dead. Willie lives rent free in Reekers mind. Rick Pitino: "You can either complain or adapt."

hairy worthen

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 05, 2013, 03:07:01 PM
I think they will beat us.  Hope I'm wrong.  Those are my thoughts on Wisconsin-madison.



I predict a MU victory.  Hope I am correct.

MUSF

Quote from: willie warrior on December 05, 2013, 03:30:53 PM
I always do. You and others extrapolate your inferences. Usually wrong, I might add. But hey, it is a message board where all of us , including Sultan and myself can shoot off their opinions on anything. Like the ones who opine that I do not like MU or Buzz or Otule. By the way that is my order of preference.

There are two components to effective communication; message sent and message received. If people aren't receiving your message correctly, maybe it's time to re-examine the quality of what you are sending.

On a completely unrelated note, have you met Chicos? ;)

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 05, 2013, 03:26:17 PM
Huge favorites.

What's the line....I've been good going against the line the last week or so and picking the dog straight up, but I just don't feel it here.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: MUSF on December 05, 2013, 04:07:42 PM
There are two components to effective communication; message sent and message received. If people aren't receiving your message correctly, maybe it's time to re-examine the quality of what you are sending.

On a completely unrelated note, have you met Chicos? ;)


You do notice you are communicating with him, thus he is being effective.  Effective communication does not mean it has to be everyone singing off the same song sheet.  Sometimes getting people off the manifesto and discussing different viewpoints is every bit as effective, whether the receiver wants to respond or acknowledge it is another point.

Dr. Blackheart

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 05, 2013, 04:25:01 PM
What's the line....I've been good going against the line the last week or so and picking the dog straight up, but I just don't feel it here.

9 points in Pomeroy...I cannot find Vegas yet.

MarquetteDano

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on December 05, 2013, 04:29:46 PM
9 points in Pomeroy...I cannot find Vegas yet.

I think it will be a close game.  The Badgers may pull it out but it is going to be close.  I will be interested in the line for this one.  If it is +7 or so for Marquette that will be interesting.

mubb34

Quote from: MarquetteDano on December 05, 2013, 04:46:19 PM
I think it will be a close game.  The Badgers may pull it out but it is going to be close.  I will be interested in the line for this one.  If it is +7 or so for Marquette that will be interesting.

I am guessing 5.5-6.5 for the spread.....Like you said, +7 or more may really make me think.

muhoops1

UW wins by 7.  MU will hang around but that is a difficult place to win for a team like MU.  Stars must align and a superlative performance by J Wilson and Gardner are our only chances to win.

I am negative by nature but I am starting to think IF we don't win here and don't finish in the top 3 of the NBE our tournament chances look grim.  BTW I can use the first person when discussing this team as I am an alum. 

Dawson Rental

Quote from: Jajuannaman on December 05, 2013, 10:50:42 AM
I've got a bridge to sell you my friend.

Looney doesn't count, he went to UCLA.

They have Dekker & Koenig, with no one else in the pipeline

vs.

DWilson, Burton, Cohen, Noskowiak, and Flory

Trust me, the in-state tide has turned in our favor. Stone going to MU will cement it for years to come. Stone going to UW will bring things back to an equilibrium.


Ellenson will be a big get, and from what I've seen Wisconsin is in the mix and at this point MU isn't very close.  It looks like Wisconsin or Minnesota for Ellenson.  
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

LAZER


MUFan42

I think mu wins by 7. Not homerism just think we play one of our good games. So many of use are saying let's play small to match up. No screw that let Gardner go to work. They don't have anyone to match up with him. Out of all there players dekker is a great one but if j wilson bring his game he can hold him to 10.

MUSF

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on December 05, 2013, 04:27:16 PM

You do notice you are communicating with him, thus he is being effective.  Effective communication does not mean it has to be everyone singing off the same song sheet.  Sometimes getting people off the manifesto and discussing different viewpoints is every bit as effective, whether the receiver wants to respond or acknowledge it is another point.

He said he always communicates his thoughts effectively. I am simply pointing out that if most people extrapolate wrong inferences, as he claims, then he probably isn't communicating effectively. People interpreting the message incorrectly is different than rejecting the message. He clearly thinks that we are doing the former not the latter, as you suggest.

NersEllenson

Quote from: MUSF on December 05, 2013, 12:46:15 PM
I don't think they've ever been that "suffocating" on D, and they are typically susceptible to penetration.

More girls need to take this "Badger" approach...need to be suffocating on the D and susceptible to penetration.
"I'm not sure Cadougan would fix the problems on this team. I'm not even convinced he would be better for this team than DeWil is."

BrewCity77, December 8, 2013

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