Tim Tebow on the hardwood....Aaron Craft

[ChicosBailBonds]

I know people will hate on the guy for just being a good person...what a weird society we have.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/10068006/ohio-state-aaron-craft-really-perfect

[brandx]

I know people will hate on the guy for just being a good person...what a weird society we have.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/10068006/ohio-state-aaron-craft-really-perfect

I think the hate actually stems from the non-stop publicity and hype. I've met Tim and he seems like a great guy...... but c'mon, give me a break. Like almost everyone else, I was sick of the non-stop blabber about him - especially when you have all of these so called experts calling him the greatest college player ever.

And it didn't take a genius to see he sucks as a QB. And, I don't blame Tim - the Right latched onto him and people just had enough.

I have no doubt Craft is a good guy - but a lot of the pub is because he is white in a black man's game Kevin Durant was a hundred times better as a player and just as good of a human being but you never read stories about what a great guy he was or what a heady player he was.

We tend to always focus on the scumbags in the sports world, but there are thousands of good guys in college and the Pros in all sports, so I think there is some blowback when this type of hype is placed on a select few players.

I doubt that many people hate Craft other than for the fact that he plays for THE OSU

[ChicosBailBonds]

Maybe....but there is also a segment of society that can't wait to tear people down that are of faith, or play it pretty straight and narrow.  They are constantly looking for ways to get them in a "gotcha" moment, even if it is manufactured.  It has become, for some, a game of destroying what good role models are out there and find that odd in society. 

[Lennys Tap]

Maybe....but there is also a segment of society that can't wait to tear people down that are of faith, or play it pretty straight and narrow.  They are constantly looking for ways to get them in a "gotcha" moment, even if it is manufactured.  It has become, for some, a game of destroying what good role models are out there and find that odd in society. 

Our society/our media will tolerate a person of faith if they like his or her politics (see Pope Francis). If someone is both openly religious and conservative, though, it's game over.

[GGGG]

Oh brother....another Chicos victimization thread.  The poor religious white guy.  There is really no place for him in our society is there? 

[tower912]

Our society/our media will tolerate a person of faith if they like his or her politics (see Pope Francis). If someone is both openly religious and conservative, though, it's game over.

The pope is Catholic in full.   His pronouncements regarding the economy, the poor, disparity in income, are consistent with statements from John XXIII, Paul VI, John Paul II, Benedict, the American Bishop's encyclical on the economy from the 80's (spent a semester studying it and liberation theology, fall semester, 1985).  He is just saying it more eloquently and bluntly.    Completely consistent with Catholic economic/social teaching.    
Aaron Craft?   Good for him.   Chico's victimization?   Played out.   Yawn. 

[Lennys Tap]

The pope is Catholic in full.   His pronouncements regarding the economy, the poor, disparity in income, are consistent with statements from John XXIII, Paul VI, John Paul II, Benedict, the American Bishop's encyclical on the economy from the 80's (spent a semester studying it and liberation theology, fall semester, 1985).  He is just saying it more eloquently and bluntly.    Completely consistent with Catholic economic/social teaching.    
Aaron Craft?   Good for him.   Chico's victimization?   Played out.   Yawn. 

Tower, I bow to your expertise on the issue. If you say that Benedict and Francis are as one politically I'll accept that, but you wouldn't get that impression reading the paper.

[tower912]

Lenny, I am not saying that Francis and Benedict are of one mind.   Clearly they are not.   Clearly, they chose to emphasize different things and lead in different styles.   All I am saying is that Francis hasn't gone off of the reservation.   He has said nothing contrary to established Catholic doctrine.   He has said nothing that directly contradicts Benedict.   Benedict, JP II,  both mentioned that they would like to find a way for divorced Catholics to more easily receive the sacraments, clearly before Francis became pope.   Francis, Benedict and JPII have all spoken out against war.   They have all spoken, written, advocated about the income disparities both between nations and within societies.   Does it seem that Francis is re-prioritizing elements of the Catholic faith from what we in America have become accustomed to?   You betcha.   But he hasn't said anything truly revolutionary. 

[brandx]

Tower, I bow to your expertise on the issue. If you say that Benedict and Francis are as one politically I'll accept that, but you wouldn't get that impression reading the paper.

125 years ago Pope Leo XIII said:

The richer class have many ways of shielding themselves, and stand less in need of help from the State; whereas the mass of the poor have no resources of their own to fall back upon, and must chiefly depend upon the assistance of the State. And it is for this reason that wage-earners, since they mostly belong in the mass of the needy, should be specially cared for and protected by the government.

The labor of the working class--the exercise of their skill, and the employment of their strength, in the cultivation of the land, and in the workshops of trade--is especially responsible and quite indispensable". He concluded by saying "It may be truly said that it is only by the labor of working men that States grow rich."

Sounds very similar to what Francis has said.

[jesmu84]

I'm not any sort of devout Catholic, so by no means an expert on the topic. But, for my 2 cents, I like Francis because he appears to be "walking the walk." Helping the needy at night, living very humbly, attempting to remove so many of the wealthy images of his post, etc. All of these may be completely for show, but it at least makes him seem pretty genuine.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Oh brother....another Chicos victimization thread.  The poor religious white guy.  There is really no place for him in our society is there? 

Interesting, I hadn't even noticed his race or his religious perspectives.

[GGGG]

Interesting, I hadn't even noticed his race or his religious perspectives.

Playing on your history.

[Lennys Tap]

Lenny, I am not saying that Francis and Benedict are of one mind.   Clearly they are not.   Clearly, they chose to emphasize different things and lead in different styles.   All I am saying is that Francis hasn't gone off of the reservation.   He has said nothing contrary to established Catholic doctrine.   He has said nothing that directly contradicts Benedict.   Benedict, JP II,  both mentioned that they would like to find a way for divorced Catholics to more easily receive the sacraments, clearly before Francis became pope.   Francis, Benedict and JPII have all spoken out against war.   They have all spoken, written, advocated about the income disparities both between nations and within societies.   Does it seem that Francis is re-prioritizing elements of the Catholic faith from what we in America have become accustomed to?   You betcha.   But he hasn't said anything truly revolutionary. 

Thanks for the clarification.