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brewcity77

Kudos to that young man for his performance last night. Had we finished that off with a win last night, no question he's my SOTG. By far his best game in a Marquette uniform, and started to put all the pieces together. The drives that he was occasionally trying in earlier games came out in force, maybe because with Mayo out, there was no one else to force the issue getting into the lane. His assist to turnover ratio was crazy-good. As a team we were 18/4, with Wilson personally going 7/0. Also shot over 50% from the line (not great, but baby steps) and got some boards.

He's growing on the job. I realize last night won't be the norm for him, but it does show what he is capable of. He still has deficiencies. He's not a three-point shooter, he doesn't make the flashy no-look type passes we've come to expect from Cadougan, but he's efficient, a great defender, and can do just enough of the little things that, as long as he plays with confidence, will get us wins and lead to a successful season.

Canned Goods n Ammo

He's better than most people think.

Buzz LOVES him. (listen to the postgame show, folks.)

The back-up PG spot is a concern for me because I don't think Derrick can play at a high level for 35+ min per night. IF MU finds 10-15min of decent back-up PG play, I think it'll really help. I think Derrick can be pretty good for about 25min. per night.




ErickJD08

Quote from: Guns n Ammo on November 26, 2013, 09:05:17 AM
He's better than most people think.

Buzz LOVES him. (listen to the postgame show, folks.)

The back-up PG spot is a concern for me because I don't think Derrick can play at a high level for 35+ min per night. IF MU finds 10-15min of decent back-up PG play, I think it'll really help. I think Derrick can be pretty good for about 25min. per night.





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Canned Goods n Ammo

Quote from: ErickJD08 on November 26, 2013, 09:07:04 AM
Link?

Crap, sorry, I heard it live last night. Not sure if they post those.

I'll paraphrase, but Buzz said something like:

"I love Derrick. I don't care what our fanbase thinks or what twitter says. I love guys like that. Derrick will always be my guy... (etc.etc.)"

THIS IS NOT AN EXACT QUOTE, I'M GOING FROM MEMORY

frozena pizza

I can definitely live with PG that doesn't make the showtime passes but doesn't turn it over and plays solid defense without fouling much.  I always liked Acker more than most people because he always seemed to be in control and almost never made a stupid play.  He was a much better shooter than Wilson but Wilson can be a better defender.  Carson had a huge game last night but we won't see many guards as good as him this year.

Dr. Blackheart

Bears could have used him in short yardage situations rather than Michael Bush.  ASU tackled him about seven times by my count reaching for a 1st down.  Key was getting Carson in foul trouble.  DW was muscling him.

LAZER

Quote from: Guns n Ammo on November 26, 2013, 09:05:17 AM
He's better than most people think.

Buzz LOVES him. (listen to the postgame show, folks.)

The back-up PG spot is a concern for me because I don't think Derrick can play at a high level for 35+ min per night. IF MU finds 10-15min of decent back-up PG play, I think it'll really help. I think Derrick can be pretty good for about 25min. per night.

He did a nice job using his body when taking the ball to the rim, his strength is a huge asset and I'd like to see him do it more.  He probably could have been even more effective at the rim if it wasn't for a 7'2 Center with great shot-blocking skills.

14pts-7ast-4reb-0TO's-39min...that's a good looking line.

ChicosBailBonds

We will go as far as our guards take us this year.

hairy worthen

Quote from: Guns n Ammo on November 26, 2013, 09:05:17 AM
He's better than most people think.

Buzz LOVES him. (listen to the postgame show, folks.)

The back-up PG spot is a concern for me because I don't think Derrick can play at a high level for 35+ min per night. IF MU finds 10-15min of decent back-up PG play, I think it'll really help. I think Derrick can be pretty good for about 25min. per night.





I think he is better than most think.  He was a proficient scorer in high school and I think we will start to see more of that going forward. (I know it was high school in Alaska, but the point is he knows how to score.)

I wish he could develop some confidence in an outside shot. There were several times last night where he passed up wide open looks from three. If he knocks even a few of those down it will pull the defense out a little and open things up for him and others. Right now he is hardly drawing a defender outside the three point line. 


MerrittsMustache

Quote from: hairyworthen on November 26, 2013, 09:23:38 AM
I think he is better than most think.  He was a proficient scorer in high school and I think we will start to see more of that going forward. (I know it was high school in Alaska, but the point is he knows how to score.)

I wish he could develop some confidence in an outside shot. There were several times last night where he passed up wide open looks from three. If he knocks even a few of those down it will pull the defense out a little and open things up for him and others. Right now he is hardly drawing a defender outside the three point line. 

Derrick actually went to HS at Hotchkiss in Connecticut.

Anyway, I agree with Derrick's outside shooting. Even if he takes 1 or 2 threes/jumpers a game, it would draw the D out just a little bit. Cadougan shot under 25% last season but even that was enough for the defenders to play him a little tighter.

Also overlooked with Derrick is that he's basically playing a new position. For the last two seasons his job was to come in for 2-3 minutes at a time and not screw things up. This year, he's running the show for 30+ minutes a night. That's a big change and there's going to be a period of adjustment. Hopefully last night was a big step in the right direction.



Canned Goods n Ammo

Quote from: hairyworthen on November 26, 2013, 09:23:38 AM
I think he is better than most think.  He was a proficient scorer in high school and I think we will start to see more of that going forward. (I know it was high school in Alaska, but the point is he knows how to score.)

I wish he could develop some confidence in an outside shot. There were several times last night where he passed up wide open looks from three. If he knocks even a few of those down it will pull the defense out a little and open things up for him and others. Right now he is hardly drawing a defender outside the three point line. 



He's had some good looking jumpers (near misses) and some ugly looking jumpers so far this year.

He's never going to be Novak, but he might be as good as Junior (eventually).

I don't think Derrick is going to average double figures. But, he could realistically avg. 6pts, 5ast, 3.5reb. 1 turnover... and I know Buzz would LOVE that.

He has to continue to be aggressive, and other guys have to make shots. When that happens, everything looks a lot better.


Canned Goods n Ammo


MU82

I am beyond thrilled at what we got out of Derrick and hope it was a sign of great things to come. Of course, if he had averaged 14 points the first four games and then only had 2 vs ASU, we'd say the 2 was an aberration, so I'm hoping the opposite isn't true!

I'm encouraged but I'm trying to stay realistic. If we had Carson and they had Derrick, we probably win this game going away. So it's not as if Derrick suddenly has become a great PG. Still ...

For the very first time in 2+ years, he did finally show signs that he can be an effective college PG. So color me cautiously optimistic and wanting to see more!
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Dawson Rental

Quote from: Guns n Ammo on November 26, 2013, 09:09:37 AM
Crap, sorry, I heard it live last night. Not sure if they post those.

I'll paraphrase, but Buzz said something like:

"I love Derrick. I don't care what our fanbase thinks or what twitter says. I love guys like that. Derrick will always be my guy... (etc.etc.)"

THIS IS NOT AN EXACT QUOTE, I'M GOING FROM MEMORY


Not being in any way critical of Derrick who had a great game, but you can only expect that Buzz is going to have his guy's back when asked about a player by the media.  I guess that you can call that love, if you want.

The way Buzz really showed love for Derrick was by the playing time that he got.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Marquette_g

While a big fan of Buzz, I've grown tired of his move of choosing select quotes or comments from twitter, message boards, etc and then extrapolating them to the entire fan base.

Certainly there are Derrick Wilson critics, but based on reading a number of threads there seem to be far more defenders of him than critics. 

You can't always be the victim.

Dawson Rental

Quote from: Marquette_g on November 26, 2013, 11:37:33 AM
While a big fan of Buzz, I've grown tired of his move of choosing select quotes or comments from twitter, message boards, etc and then extrapolating them to the entire fan base.

Certainly there are Derrick Wilson critics, but based on reading a number of threads there seem to be far more defenders of him than critics. 

You can't always be the victim.

Why not?  And what's the matter with it if it's an effective way to motivate the team?  I can handle it.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Marquette_g

Quote from: LittleMurs on November 26, 2013, 11:39:10 AM
Why not?  And what's the matter with it if it's an effective way to motivate the team?  I can handle it.

Well it is disingenuous


Dawson Rental

Quote from: Marquette_g on November 26, 2013, 11:42:02 AM
Well it is disingenuous



I think that that latitude should be allowed when trying to keep together a group of young men under tremendous scrutiny who need to be motivated and kept from becoming overconfident at the same time.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Eldon

Quote from: Marquette_g on November 26, 2013, 11:42:02 AM
Well it is disingenuous



If it's purposefully done, yes.  Otherwise, it could just be that he is (unknowingly) generalizing from a few salient examples

Canned Goods n Ammo

Quote from: ElDonBDon on November 26, 2013, 11:59:54 AM
If it's purposefully done, yes.  Otherwise, it could just be that he is (unknowingly) generalizing from a few salient examples

In Derrick's case, I don't think it's disingenuous.

There were a lot of "experts" on the internet the last couple of weeks who were highly critical of DW.


Wojo'sMojo

Props to D Wilson for having a decent game yesterday! However, he is still a below average D1 starting point guard and always will be. This past game was his absolute ceiling on how well he can perform. He is overmatched going to the hole and has no jump shot at all...he doesn't even look to shoot. If he was a penetrator/distributor this could be overlooked but he is none of the above. He stands at the top of the key and can't get us into our offense. Every time he scored I thought wow that was lucky! I love Marquette basketball and hope I'm wrong but I don't see this team going to the tournament with him as our starting pg :(

Sunbelt15

Quote from: LAZER on November 26, 2013, 09:15:30 AM
He did a nice job using his body when taking the ball to the rim, his strength is a huge asset and I'd like to see him do it more.  He probably could have been even more effective at the rim if it wasn't for a 7'2 Center with great shot-blocking skills.

14pts-7ast-4reb-0TO's-39min...that's a good looking line.

I love that assist stat. It's good to see that he was getting others involved and making the team better. His points is a plus. Was also happy to see JJJ on the floor contributing 9pts, 3 Rebs, and 3 asts. I knew he was ready.

MerrittsMustache

Quote from: Sunbelt15 on November 26, 2013, 12:33:05 PM
I love that assist stat. It's good to see that he was getting others involved and making the team better. His points is a plus. Was also happy to see JJJ on the floor contributing 9pts, 3 Rebs, and 3 asts. I knew he was ready.

JJJ did a lot of positive things but I don't know if I'd declare him "ready" just yet.

In his first 5 games he's done: nothing, 12 points in a pro-am type game, DNP-CD, nothing, and 9-3-3. He's a very talented kid and his minutes will increase as the season goes on, but he's got some work to do before he's seeing crunch time minutes with everyone healthy.

What I will say is that he made the most of his opportunity. Mayo was out, minutes were available and JJJ did a nice job stepping up.


Canned Goods n Ammo

Quote from: mubuzz on November 26, 2013, 12:16:26 PM
Props to D Wilson for having a decent game yesterday! However, he is still a below average D1 starting point guard and always will be. This past game was his absolute ceiling on how well he can perform. He is overmatched going to the hole and has no jump shot at all...he doesn't even look to shoot. If he was a penetrator/distributor this could be overlooked but he is none of the above. He stands at the top of the key and can't get us into our offense. Every time he scored I thought wow that was lucky! I love Marquette basketball and hope I'm wrong but I don't see this team going to the tournament with him as our starting pg :(

Rest easy.

You're wrong.

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