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Lennys Tap

Quote from: Pakuni on November 13, 2013, 02:31:51 PM
I doubt Malek waits until spring to sign without a promise that a scholie would be available to him.

He's in an interesting situation. What realistically are his options? If MU can't give him assurances that his schollie is available in April, who is willing to roll the dice with him now? Maybe he's better off waiting with or without a guarantee.

BCHoopster

Quote from: Pakuni on November 13, 2013, 02:31:51 PM
I doubt Malek waits until spring to sign without a promise that a scholie would be available to him.

I think Buzz in the past has taken some questionable kids, so under your assessment, I doubt he shows up at MU then.  To big a risk. unless he is a great ballplayer and
Buzz thinks it is worth the risk, not sure what happened, but Buzz knows.

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Signing Day!  Brett Jolly to SLU and Marial Shayok to Marquette.  Marial is actually happy haha. @TeamCoachBuzz

"Every day ends with a Tums festival!"

ChitownSpaceForRent

Does Cohen remind anybody else of Michael Carter-Williams? 6'6" athletic guard who can play the point. I think Cohen has a better looking shot though.

Wojo'sMojo

I think MCW is a more fluid athlete than Cohen. Cohen has a much better shot though and it's not even close!

bilsu

Quote from: Pakuni on November 13, 2013, 02:31:51 PM
I doubt Malek waits until spring to sign without a promise that a scholie would be available to him.
Are there any basketball schools at MU's level that would be willing to sign him right now? Unless he wants to go to a lower program, he probably does not have any choice but to wait.
Either way our recruiting ranking is going to fall. Right now our class is being ranked on him being a top 100 player. We fall in rankings if he does not sign. We also fall in rankings when he drops out of top 100. I cannot see him staying in top 100, when he is not playing this year.

mr.MUskie

Quote from: PTM on November 13, 2013, 12:57:56 PM
They're not expecting it this signing period.

Andrew Gruman ‏@AndrewGruman 3h
@LanceHillCBS58 Yep. Still a lot to be determined with Harris.

BrewCity83

Based on that picture, looks like Buzz is going to have to teach Shayok about removing the designer labels from his suit sleeve before he takes him to NYC for the Big East day.
The shaka sign, sometimes known as "hang loose", is a gesture of friendly intent often associated with Hawaii and surf culture.

BCHoopster

Quote from: bilsu on November 13, 2013, 03:24:57 PM
Are there any basketball schools at MU's level that would be willing to sign him right now? Unless he wants to go to a lower program, he probably does not have any choice but to wait.
Either way our recruiting ranking is going to fall. Right now our class is being ranked on him being a top 100 player. We fall in rankings if he does not sign. We also fall in rankings when he drops out of top 100. I cannot see him staying in top 100, when he is not playing this year.

Do you really care about that, I would take one player the following year, Diamond Stone, we would not be in the Top 50 then, but I am sure everybody who reads this board
would be ecstatic.  Last year we were ranked pretty high, now look at it, McKay gone and Wilson hurt, where do we stand now?  It really does not matter.

bilsu

Quote from: BCHoopster on November 13, 2013, 03:32:01 PM
Do you really care about that, I would take one player the following year, Diamond Stone, we would not be in the Top 50 then, but I am sure everybody who reads this board
would be ecstatic.  Last year we were ranked pretty high, now look at it, McKay gone and Wilson hurt, where do we stand now?  It really does not matter.
Do I care about that? I do not think we should sign him period.

brewcity77

Harris is still a Marquette commit. That doesn't mean he will sign in the early period, and not signing in the early period doesn't mean he won't be at Marquette next fall.

Pakuni

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Quote from: bilsu on November 13, 2013, 03:24:57 PM
Are there any basketball schools at MU's level that would be willing to sign him right now? Unless he wants to go to a lower program, he probably does not have any choice but to wait.
Depends  what you consider "at MU's level." Harris had offers from the likes of Mizzou, Purdue, Creighton, Iowa, Okie State and K-State. If he were my kid, I'd tell him to take a certain scholie from one of those schools than cross his fingers and hope maybe Marquette would take him in the spring.

QuoteEither way our recruiting ranking is going to fall. Right now our class is being ranked on him being a top 100 player. We fall in rankings if he does not sign. We also fall in rankings when he drops out of top 100. I cannot see him staying in top 100, when he is not playing this year.

High school play* does little to impact the rankings, in large part because the people who do the rankings can't fly around the country to see these guys play on a regular basis. Most of the rankings are the result of how kids perform at shoe camps and AAU events (and who's recruiting them).

* Regular schools, not hoops factories like Findlay, St. Anthony, Montverde, Oak Hill, etc.

chapman

Was any effort made for Harris to switch schools, or would it have been unrealistic to find a school to able to play this year and be on track to get through the clearinghouse in the fall?

Pakuni

Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 13, 2013, 02:42:44 PM
He's in an interesting situation. What realistically are his options? If MU can't give him assurances that his schollie is available in April, who is willing to roll the dice with him now? Maybe he's better off waiting with or without a guarantee.

I don't think a lot of schools are going to be scared to pull the trigger on a top 100ish kid because he smoked pot and/or drank booze (assuming that's the accurate account of what landed him in trouble).
I think the "risk" associated with Malek Harris is a bit overstated.

StillWarriors

Quote from: chapman on November 13, 2013, 04:23:49 PM
Was any effort made for Harris to switch schools, or would it have been unrealistic to find a school to able to play this year and be on track to get through the clearinghouse in the fall?

My understanding is he thought about going the prep school route and MU essentially told him to lie in the bed he made if he wanted to still come to MU. I suspect the message was conveyed a little more positively than that, but I can't say I disagree with the approach. Without getting back into the whole debate over whether MU should still take him, I would think this route makes it more likely he still comes to MU than had he gone to prep school somewhere.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Litehouse on November 13, 2013, 12:27:30 PM
You mean Malek's letter isn't coming?  We don't know about him yet.

Has he officially applied....wouldn't want the application to get lost or something or something

Pakuni

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 13, 2013, 05:41:04 PM
Has he officially applied....wouldn't want the application to get lost or something or something

Really? Do you have these things set up as a keyboard macro?
Could you also get in a line about Buzz being here as long as MU will have him?

Dawson Rental

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on November 13, 2013, 05:41:04 PM
Has he officially applied....wouldn't want the application to get lost or something or something

This sarcasm fails because it does not accurately reflect the Newbill situation.  Newbill's app wasn't lost, it wasn't submitted.

It really seems to me that you are just baiting people here.  Why?
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: LittleMurs on November 13, 2013, 08:44:01 PM
This sarcasm fails because it does not accurately reflect the Newbill situation.  Newbill's app wasn't lost, it wasn't submitted.

It really seems to me that you are just baiting people here.  Why?

As Brutus loved Caesar, so Chicos loves Buzz. And like Brutus, he'll never miss a chance to put a knife in his friend's back.

We R Final Four

Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 13, 2013, 09:42:45 PM
As Brutus loved Caesar, so Chicos loves Buzz. And like Brutus, he'll never miss a chance to put a knife in his friend's back.

Truer words were never spoken.

Lighthouse 84

Just noticed at the bottom of page 5 of this morning's Chicago Tribune, they list area signees from yesterday, and in the list is Malek Harris, Sandburg, 6-7, F, Marquette.

Not that he signed, but interesting how they list him as a signee.
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melissasmooth

Quote from: Lighthouse 84 on November 14, 2013, 07:27:28 AM
Just noticed at the bottom of page 5 of this morning's Chicago Tribune, they list area signees from yesterday, and in the list is Malek Harris, Sandburg, 6-7, F, Marquette.

Not that he signed, but interesting how they list him as a signee.

yeah someone should tweet him and tell him not to show up. Maybe I will
MU15

Wally Schroeder

Quote from: melissasmooth on November 14, 2013, 07:42:28 AM
yeah someone should tweet him and tell him not to show up. Maybe I will

I would have guessed you'd tweet him about our soccer programs.

Great to have Sandy, Ahmed, and Marial officially sign their NLI's! Really looking forward to seeing these guy play, and hope Satchel announces he'll be joining them tomorrow.

ChitownSpaceForRent

I still want Harris to come to MU. Buzz is well aware of the situation. I think we will see him here next year but he may not play the first few games, kinda like an unofficial suspension.

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