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keefe

Quote from: We R Final Four on October 18, 2013, 03:28:56 PM
He knew the playing time situation almost a year And a half ago. Nothing has changed. He'd play this year some and ALOT next year. Not to mention we are now assuming more minutes for both DG and CO--two guys with injury histories.  I think more to it.

I have no expertise or insight as to why the kid left. My comment was directed at someone who said we only have internet rumors to go on. In fact, there are several press reports citing his place on the depth chart.

As far as I'm concerned, kid has chosen to leave so it doesn't matter why. Move on.


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We R Final Four

Oh I know--not directed at you. Just wondering JM's deal.

Nukem2

Quote from: keefe on October 18, 2013, 03:50:53 PM
I have no expertise or insight as to why the kid left. My comment was directed at someone who said we only have internet rumors to go on. In fact, there are several press reports citing his place on the depth chart.

As far as I'm concerned, kid has chosen to leave so it doesn't matter why. Move on.
Yep, if he does not want to be here, so be it.

NavinRJohnson

Quote from: Nukem2 on October 18, 2013, 04:22:25 PM
Yep, if he does not want to be here, so be it.

Yeah but it's much more fun for those of us with no direct role or insight in the situation to criticize the kid for his stupid decision, or the coaching staff for their defective crystal ball.

wadesworld

Not sure how many times I need to say it, but it had absolutely nothing to do with personal issues, any sort of trouble that Jameel got in (he didn't get in any), or any sort of grade issues.  You can stop speculating about those things.

Or you can just keep ignoring it.

keefe

Quote from: wadesworld on October 18, 2013, 08:45:45 PM
Not sure how many times I need to say it, but it had absolutely nothing to do with personal issues, any sort of trouble that Jameel got in (he didn't get in any), or any sort of grade issues.  You can stop speculating about those things.

Or you can just keep ignoring it.

Jameel who?


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wadesworld

Quote from: keefe on October 19, 2013, 03:12:41 AM
Jameel who?

Jameel McKay. The guy who transferred from MU and who this thread is about.

Jay Bee

Also have to consider Juan's return. Potential e-motional roller coaster for Jameel. "Ah, dude's gone now, more playing time opening up for me..."... then, "uh oh.. dude's back.. and he's improved..." Say what you will about Juan's supposed position(s) this season, but if I'm Jameel and I'm watching Juan this fall the thought of "oh man, that's some competition" might creep into my mind.

Hope Jameel is able to get somewhere and have some success. Was looking forward to watching him with MU, but things change. Somewhat "unusual" roster changes for MU are nothing new. Forward, HOE.
The portal is NOT closed.

77ncaachamps

Quote from: brewcity77 on October 18, 2013, 01:32:01 PM
Making poor decisions doesn't make one an idiot, but it is consistent with being young. Maybe it all works out for McKay, he pulls a Maymon and goes somewhere to immediately dominate, and ends up making it to the league. But anything less than that, when you consider Buzz's track record, certainly warrants questioning.

I think too many of these kids look at the short term and not the long term. Did Lazar or Jimmy freak out when they were thrown in at the 5 despite it being painfully obvious that their best positions were either the 2 or the 3? No, they put their heads down, worked, and made it to the league. This staff knows what it takes to get their guys playing professional ball. If they feel McKay can best help the team and show off his skills at the 5, my guess is Buzz and company know what it will take a TON better than McKay himself.

Quite simply, has Jameel McKay ever got anyone else to the NBA himself, or got their on his own? Obviously not. Or what about Mike Anderson? Should McKay look at the career of Demarre Carroll as proof positive that Arkansas' coach will map out a better route to the NBA than the guy that sent Wes Matthews, Lazar Hayward, Jimmy Butler, Dwight Buycks, Jae Crowder, and (briefly) DJO to the league, with Vander Blue still sniffing at the door?

I wish the best for Jameel. I really hope he is getting the right advice and listening to the people that both care about him and know what he wants and how to get there. However reading his Twitter feed of late and listening to the grapevine, I have very strong doubts that is the case.


I'm in that latter group. I blame it (speculation) on watching General Hospital and Ryan's Hope after school at Grandma's.

A day before he tweets he's leaving MU, he tweets the Arkansas Assistant Coach. Whatever. It's a tweet.

But it's the timing and the fact that it was public (not a DM) that makes it curious.
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keefe

Quote from: wadesworld on October 19, 2013, 09:19:47 AM
Jameel McKay. The guy who transferred from MU and who this thread is about.

Jameel Mckay? Never heard of him...


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Dawson Rental

Quote from: 77ncaachamps on October 19, 2013, 12:18:14 PM

I'm in that latter group. I blame it (speculation) on watching General Hospital and Ryan's Hope after school at Grandma's.

A day before he tweets he's leaving MU, he tweets the Arkansas Assistant Coach. Whatever. It's a tweet.

But it's the timing and the fact that it was public (not a DM) that makes it curious.

....or Jameel not too bright.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

MUHoopsFan2

He better not be....I think the next time I see him I might have a little talk with him..

I don't know where he is getting his advice unless it is a mutual parting and the team doesn't think he is what they need but one injury and he is in there.

Juan Anderson abruptly left after talking to family and then he came back within days after thinking about it. Jameel would do well to do the same and work on his shot more

Seems like a genuinely good guy too...I wish him the best but he better get back here if he can. I might holler at him and see what is up...

MUHoopsFan2

Quote from: Nukem2 on October 18, 2013, 04:22:25 PM
Yep, if he does not want to be here, so be it.
It is not that he does not want to be here imo... He is just being impulsive and should go somewhere fast and get sit down and chill.

He seemed happy the other day after having gotten through 'Boot Camp' and perhaps after that milestone you think you deserved more since you rode into your hometown after two years at Juco and think you have it made but he is going to have to man up and make it work wherever he ends up.

I am upset another local kid is ducking and dodging out of town after a bit of adversity or before they are ready [in our skeptical eyes]. Maymon, Blue, and now McKay. Dwight Buycks made it work.

Now we'll see how this plays out with the other recruits.

Now why can't J.P leave UNC and come back home to MU? It is always kids leaving here. Oh well...

wadesworld

Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on October 19, 2013, 11:46:00 PM
He better not be....I think the next time I see him I might have a little talk with him..

I don't know where he is getting his advice unless it is a mutual parting and the team doesn't think he is what they need but one injury and he is in there.

Juan Anderson abruptly left after talking to family and then he came back within days after thinking about it. Jameel would do well to do the same and work on his shot more

Seems like a genuinely good guy too...I wish him the best but he better get back here if he can. I might holler at him and see what is up...

Glad you know what's best for the guy. Give him a "holler" and tell him how it really is.

NickelDimer

Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on October 19, 2013, 11:46:00 PM
I think the next time I see him I might have a little talk with him..

I might holler at him and see what is up...

You think you will??  You might holler at him???  What are you waiting for?! You might be our only hope!!! You're destiny has lead you to this very place!!!  Make it happen!
No Finish Line

Eldon

Quote from: NickelDimer on October 20, 2013, 08:05:38 AM
You think you will??  You might holler at him???  What are you waiting for?! You might be our only hope!!! You're destiny has lead you to this very place!!!  Make it happen!

+1.  But I'm sure anything you tell him, the coaching staff has already told him.

Jay Bee

Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on October 19, 2013, 11:46:00 PM
Juan Anderson abruptly left after talking to family and then he came back within days after thinking about it. Jameel would do well to do the same and work on his shot more

If by "within days" you mean more than a month, sure.

Tokoto? Ignoring Jamil's return to the state?

Seems like you're trying to write a story that isn't there.
The portal is NOT closed.

GGGG

Quote from: Jay Bee on October 20, 2013, 11:14:08 AM
If by "within days" you mean more than a month, sure.

Tokoto? Ignoring Jamil's return to the state?

Seems like you're trying to write a story that isn't there.


Not to mention that Juan's departure and return were due to a unrelated personal issue.  Nothing like McKay.

GB Warrior

Report from @jucoreporting says that he's getting looked at by Florida, Louisville, Oklahoma, AZ, ASU, Arkansas, Memphis and more. This is a topic that will likely surface often over the remainder of his career.

GGGG

Quote from: Gardner's Postgame Snack on October 20, 2013, 11:38:48 AM
Report from @jucoreporting says that he's getting looked at by Florida, Louisville, Oklahoma, AZ, ASU, Arkansas, Memphis and more. This is a topic that will likely surface often over the remainder of his career.


He claims those schools are contacting him.  What that means, and how truly interested they are, has really yet to be determined.

brewcity77

Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on October 20, 2013, 11:40:59 AMHe claims those schools are contacting him.  What that means, and how truly interested they are, has really yet to be determined.

At this point, they can have him. 4 practices and he quits on his new coach and his team. After all that talk about wanting to come back to Milwaukee, and especially those tweets where he talked about wanting to prove himself, I'm just unimpressed. Be tough. If you want to prove how good you are, listen to your coaches and actually work. Like PT, respect isn't given, it's earned. All McKay has earned is a reputation as a quitter who isn't tough enough to play at Marquette.

In life, everyone faces adversity. Usually the ones that succeed are those that work hard to overcome. Jameel seems to be the sort that seeks the path of least resistance. If he can't take it, so be it. We'll be better without him.

MUHoopsFan2

#196
Quote from: brewcity77 on October 20, 2013, 02:43:33 PM
At this point, they can have him. 4 practices and he quits on his new coach and his team. After all that talk about wanting to come back to Milwaukee, and especially those tweets where he talked about wanting to prove himself, I'm just unimpressed. Be tough. If you want to prove how good you are, listen to your coaches and actually work. Like PT, respect isn't given, it's earned. All McKay has earned is a reputation as a quitter who isn't tough enough to play at Marquette.

In life, everyone faces adversity. Usually the ones that succeed are those that work hard to overcome. Jameel seems to be the sort that seeks the path of least resistance. If he can't take it, so be it. We'll be better without him.
EXCELLENT!

My words exactly....my work here today is done. I was going to comment but you have said it all. Superb. This is the bottom line.

And believe me and trust me fully when I tell you that it takes some doing to devise a post that I cannot add to it and comment on.

Well done sir.

MUHoopsFan2

#197
Quote from: The Sultan of Syncopation on October 20, 2013, 11:30:41 AM

Not to mention that Juan's departure and return were due to a unrelated personal issue.  Nothing like McKay.
Who cares what it was! It was a planned departure that took and lasted the same amount of days as this one has. IT IS THE SAME THING. A departure is a departure no matter what reason it is.

No one asked you what it was. And it should not really matter. It is not our business. It may have been due to playing time or whatever but that is not important.

The fact is both left the team officially, and one came back and as of now did not or has not. There are similarities...in that regard which is how you should have read it and took it.

Stop reading more into things that are not there. Some comments are just that...comments. Calm down. The JP Tokoto deal was just me musing...nothing more. Don;t twist this into something to make you look like you know what you are talking about.

Just read it and dismiss it.

keefe

Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on October 20, 2013, 08:23:02 PM
EXCELLENT!

My words exactly....my work here today is done. I was going to comment but you have said it all. Superb. This is the bottom line.

And believe me and trust me fully when I tell you that it takes some doing to devise a post that I cannot add to it and comment on.

Well done sir.




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jesmu84

Quote from: MUHoopsFan2 on October 20, 2013, 08:23:02 PM
EXCELLENT!

My words exactly....my work here today is done. I was going to comment but you have said it all. Superb. This is the bottom line.

And believe me and trust me fully when I tell you that it takes some doing to devise a post that I cannot add to it and comment on.

Well done sir.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI0RoJz7Tno

My first ignore. Well done.

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