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Manager/Coaches are always wrong (a little OT)
« on: October 11, 2007, 10:26:13 AM »

This is a little off topic, but a very interesting article from Jim Caple.

Basically, it talks about the decisions that managers (or college hoops coaches in our case) make and how they can always be criticized. The manager is always wrong, no matter what decision they make.



http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=caple/071010&sportCat=mlb


Did your team lose in the postseason? Then blame the manager. It's all his fault.

The Cubs were swept in the division series, and it wasn't because Arizona's pitching held Chicago batters under the Mendoza Line. Not at all. As everyone knows, it was because manager Lou Piniella took out ace Carlos Zambrano too early in Game 1.

The Phillies got swept in their division series, and it wasn't because Colorado's pitching shut down the top of the Philadelphia lineup. It was because manager Charlie Manuel took out Kyle Kendrick and brought in Kyle Lohse in the fourth inning of Game 2.

Remember: It's always the manager's fault.

Never mind what any of the players did on the field. Clearly, it's all Lou Piniella's fault that the Cubs were swept by the D-backs.

When a reporter asked Piniella after Game 1 of the Cubs-Snakes series whether he might be accused of looking ahead in the series, Lou snapped, "I'm not accused of anything, sir!" Piniella was right. He hasn't been accused. We no longer have time for accusations in our 24/7 sports world. When a scapegoat must be found for each and every loss, we now go directly to verdict and sentencing. And the verdict is always the same in the postseason:

You, sir, are a moron.

Managing in the postseason is like juggling chainsaws blindfolded while wearing an oven mitt in a nightclub frequented by Pacman Jones. You're lucky to escape with all your limbs. Consider the whole debate about starting a pitcher on three days' rest. If a manager does it, he immediately is guilty of panicking and ignoring statistics that show pitchers are 29-52 on three days' rest in the postseason since 1995. If a manager decides not to start his pitcher on short rest, he immediately is guilty of looking ahead in the playoffs and not going for the kill with his best pitcher.

Case in point: Cleveland manager Eric Wedge. When choosing his Game 4 starter in the series against the Yankees, he had two options: He could be called an idiot or he could be called a moron. After careful consideration, he chose to be called an idiot by going with his No. 4 starter, Paul Byrd, instead of starting C.C. Sabathia on three days' rest.

Never mind that Byrd had won 15 games this season. Never mind that Sabathia had pitched close to 250 innings this year, was coming off a stressful 114-pitch Game 1 and had little experience pitching on short rest. Never mind that Cleveland held a 2-1 lead in the series and didn't need to panic -- the verdict was Byrd would get lit up, the Yankees would win and Wedge was an idiot.

Amazing, wasn't it, how many points Wedge's IQ rose in a couple hours that night?

Short rest is a fun debate. The overall stats don't look good, but remember, what other pitchers did on short rest has little bearing on what another pitcher might do. Basing a decision solely on what other players did is like keeping David Ortiz on the bench against a left-handed pitcher because left-handed hitters generally don't do as well against southpaws. Each decision must be made on a case-by-case basis, taking into account the starter who would pitch on short rest and the available alternatives.

And who do you think is in a better position to make that decision? A manager who has been with his players every day since February (and often for years before that), who has full access to their medical condition, who has been monitoring their performance since Opening Day, who can speak with them personally and look them in the eye, who can consult with the catcher and the pitching coach about their recent effectiveness, and who has made these type of real-life decisions -- and lived with the consequences -- for his entire managerial career?

Don't be ridiculous. The manager is a moron (or an idiot). Such decisions can only be made by a bunch of guys in the press box who spend the game surfing the Web, bitching at the PR people when the wireless goes down and asking someone else how the last batter got out. Well, either by the writers, or by the fans who spend more time on the phone with talk radio hosts than they do talking with their own wives and kids.

"How many guys are in this room?" Piniella said last week to a room of reporters questioning him about the Zambrano decision. "Count them. That's how many managers there are in here."

Damn right, Lou. And don't forget, we know more about your team than you do. Don't believe us? Then just check out our stories after the game.

There is an important corollary to the "manager is an idiot (or moron)" rule: The players are never responsible. Why? Because, the manager is ALWAYS wrong.

Kaz Matsui (17 career home runs) hits a grand slam against Kyle Lohse? Don't blame Lohse. After all, he's just the pitcher who grooved the ball to Matsui. The true fault lies with Manuel, because he is a moron for bringing in a pitcher who gave up a grand slam. Carlos Marmol gives up a tiebreaking home run to Mark Reynolds? Don't blame Marmol, who merely threw the gopher ball. The full responsibility belongs to Piniella, because he is an idiot for not knowing that one of his best and most reliable relievers was going to give up two runs.

Remember: The players have absolutely NOTHING to do with what happens after a manager's decision. If a managerial move doesn't work out, it's never because a pitcher's location was off, or a batter swung at a ball in the dirt, or an outfielder lost a ball in the lights, or a ball landed inches fair instead of inches foul, or an infielder made a bad throw, or that's just the way baseball goes sometimes. No, there has to be someone we can blame, and the logical person is the manager.

Why? Because the manager is ALWAYS to blame.

Unless, of course, it was A-Rod's fault.

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Re: Manager/Coaches are always wrong (a little OT)
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2007, 10:36:58 AM »
The problem with the premise of this column -- and I'll use the Cubs situation as an example -- is that no Cub fan I've spoken to has said a word criticizing Pinella. It's the MEDIA discussing the "controversial" decision. It's nonsense.


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Re: Manager/Coaches are always wrong (a little OT)
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2007, 10:43:18 AM »
The problem with the premise of this column -- and I'll use the Cubs situation as an example -- is that no Cub fan I've spoken to has said a word criticizing Pinella. It's the MEDIA discussing the "controversial" decision. It's nonsense.



You could be right... but obviously there are a LOT of Cubs fans out there... and I'm sure some (maybe not a majority) of them are pretty bitter and question Lou's decisions.

Anyways, its an interesting take especially given all of the things that have changed in sports in the past 20 years (sports radio, blogs, fan boards, ESPN, etc. etc.)

Anybody with a keyboard (or phone) can now start criticizing the coach or manager in a public forum, even though they may not have any real knowledge of the team or situation.

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Re: Manager/Coaches are always wrong (a little OT)
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2007, 12:08:47 PM »
I am a Cubs fan.  I do not blame Pinella.  I blame the 247 double plays they grounded into (although mathematically impossible, it sure seemed like that many).

I am a Packers fan too.  Now Mike McCarthy's play calling in the 2nd half of the Bears game...now he was an idiot!! ;)

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Re: Manager/Coaches are always wrong (a little OT)
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2007, 12:55:51 PM »
the potential benefit from that challenge (McCarthy's) was just not worth it if you ask me

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Re: Manager/Coaches are always wrong (a little OT)
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2007, 01:58:35 PM »
I think the gist of the article is correct, with a notable exception for managerial decisions that fly in the face of extensively documented stats, like choosing to play for one run in the second inning of a baseball game over trying for the big inning.

 

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