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Quote from: Freeport Warrior on September 03, 2013, 01:02:14 PM
A few things. The kid can dunk, but just barely.

I have a few friends who know both the son and the alum very well. The actual recruiting story/offer is pretty funny stuff — say what you want about Buzz, but he is a real genuine guy. From all accounts, Flory is the best shooter in his class in the state. But the big thing I heard from multiple people is that he is one of the hardest working kids they have ever seen. They all say he is beyond driven, super focused AND a good student. He works out with a trainer a couple times a week and is just an all-around good kid that is only getting better. He has the pedigree, shooting ability and height right now, and Buzz liked what he saw. He also has a pretty good handle. I heard Ritchie Davis wanted him to wait it out (for his and PGW benefit?), but MU was always Flory's dream school, so they pulled the trigger. He switched from Playground Elite to Playground Warriors this spring, so it wasn't like he was a PGW lifer. It will be pretty interesting to follow his high school career. Best of luck Phillip!

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No surprise that Ritchie Davis wanted him to wait it out.  Not exactly an MU friendly AAU team. 
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Quote from: Freeport Warrior on September 03, 2013, 01:02:14 PM
A few things. The kid can dunk, but just barely.

I have a few friends who know both the son and the alum very well. The actual recruiting story/offer is pretty funny stuff — say what you want about Buzz, but he is a real genuine guy. From all accounts, Flory is the best shooter in his class in the state. But the big thing I heard from multiple people is that he is one of the hardest working kids they have ever seen. They all say he is beyond driven, super focused AND a good student. He works out with a trainer a couple times a week and is just an all-around good kid that is only getting better. He has the pedigree, shooting ability and height right now, and Buzz liked what he saw. He also has a pretty good handle. I heard Ritchie Davis wanted him to wait it out (for his and PGW benefit?), but MU was always Flory's dream school, so they pulled the trigger. He switched from Playground Elite to Playground Warriors this spring, so it wasn't like he was a PGW lifer. It will be pretty interesting to follow his high school career. Best of luck Phillip!

Here's an article with some of Flory's quotes, including how he was offered.

http://www.wisconsinrapidstribune.com/article/20130831/WRT020502/308310493/Basketball-Rapids-Flory-accepts-verbal-offer-from-Marquette

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Quote from: Freeport Warrior on September 03, 2013, 01:02:14 PM
A few things. The kid can dunk, but just barely.

I have a few friends who know both the son and the alum very well. The actual recruiting story/offer is pretty funny stuff — say what you want about Buzz, but he is a real genuine guy. From all accounts, Flory is the best shooter in his class in the state. But the big thing I heard from multiple people is that he is one of the hardest working kids they have ever seen. They all say he is beyond driven, super focused AND a good student. He works out with a trainer a couple times a week and is just an all-around good kid that is only getting better. He has the pedigree, shooting ability and height right now, and Buzz liked what he saw. He also has a pretty good handle. I heard Ritchie Davis wanted him to wait it out (for his and PGW benefit?), but MU was always Flory's dream school, so they pulled the trigger. He switched from Playground Elite to Playground Warriors this spring, so it wasn't like he was a PGW lifer. It will be pretty interesting to follow his high school career. Best of luck Phillip!

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I'm a little surprised that there has been no mention of this story on ESPN. I know its a far way off and this kid isn't Andrew Wiggins or anything, but a 15 year old committing to a major school is a pretty rare occurrence. And its not like anything else is going on in college basketball. I am continually amazed by how behind their recruiting information usually is.
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Quote from: TAMU Eagle on September 03, 2013, 02:02:29 PM
I'm a little surprised that there has been no mention of this story on ESPN. I know its a far way off and this kid isn't Andrew Wiggins or anything, but a 15 year old committing to a major school is a pretty rare occurrence. And its not like anything else is going on in college basketball. I am continually amazed by how behind their recruiting information usually is.

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Quote from: Freeport Warrior on September 03, 2013, 01:02:14 PM
A few things. The kid can dunk, but just barely.

I have a few friends who know both the son and the alum very well. The actual recruiting story/offer is pretty funny stuff — say what you want about Buzz, but he is a real genuine guy. From all accounts, Flory is the best shooter in his class in the state. But the big thing I heard from multiple people is that he is one of the hardest working kids they have ever seen. They all say he is beyond driven, super focused AND a good student. He works out with a trainer a couple times a week and is just an all-around good kid that is only getting better. He has the pedigree, shooting ability and height right now, and Buzz liked what he saw. He also has a pretty good handle. I heard Ritchie Davis wanted him to wait it out (for his and PGW benefit?), but MU was always Flory's dream school, so they pulled the trigger. He switched from Playground Elite to Playground Warriors this spring, so it wasn't like he was a PGW lifer. It will be pretty interesting to follow his high school career. Best of luck Phillip!

Freeport, can you share the actual recruiting/offer story?
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Quote from: BrewCity BallCrusher on September 03, 2013, 04:47:48 PM
Freeport, can you share the actual recruiting/offer story?
I don't them personally, so I would be uncomfortable sharing the exact details. Let's just say, the offer came as a surprise at the end of story where Buzz was talking about hard work and academics. It put a big smile on my face and it made me realize how fortunate we are to have a guy like Buzz. He really is a salt of the earth kind of guy.

For all of you who live out of state and don't deal with the UW/MU stuff on a daily basis, I can tell you that the success of the program, the style of the program and the personality of Buzz are all working to slowly change the tide here in WI. We will never overtake UW in fan allegiance, but I have a pretty good pulse on the AAU scene here in WI and the younger generation of players love Marquette, and in my opinion, it's not even close. Obviously, Wade started it all, but every year it grows a little more and more as we advance in the tourney and guys make the league. It used to be a Milwaukee thing, but kids from all over the state view Marquette as the "cool" school.

willie warrior

Quote from: Freeport Warrior on September 03, 2013, 06:02:40 PM
I don't them personally, so I would be uncomfortable sharing the exact details. Let's just say, the offer came as a surprise at the end of story where Buzz was talking about hard work and academics. It put a big smile on my face and it made me realize how fortunate we are to have a guy like Buzz. He really is a salt of the earth kind of guy.

For all of you who live out of state and don't deal with the UW/MU stuff on a daily basis, I can tell you that the success of the program, the style of the program and the personality of Buzz are all working to slowly change the tide here in WI. We will never overtake UW in fan allegiance, but I have a pretty good pulse on the AAU scene here in WI and the younger generation of players love Marquette, and in my opinion, it's not even close. Obviously, Wade started it all, but every year it grows a little more and more as we advance in the tourney and guys make the league. It used to be a Milwaukee thing, but kids from all over the state view Marquette as the "cool" school.

Glad to hear all of this. I know Looney has written us off, but if the younger generation of players love Marquette, then we should land Stone with little problem.
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Quote from: willie warrior on September 03, 2013, 06:16:57 PM
Glad to hear all of this. I know Looney has written us off, but if the younger generation of players love Marquette, then we should land Stone with little problem.

I'll take your bait Willie. Just because MU is turning the tide to be the "cool school," as far as in-state options go for the state's most talented basketball players - doesn't mean you land a 100% of them and that  UNC, Kentucky, Kansas, Duke are total non-factors (as are the case with Looney and Stone). 

Let's face it Willie - no kid EVER wants to leave his home state to go to college elsewhere.  The Marquette student body is comprised 100 percent of kids from Wisconsin.  How dare a kid like Looney or Stone even consider leaving the state.  Or for that matter, how dare a kid like Jujuan Johnson consider leaving Tennessee or Memphis to attend Marquette?

So yeah, we should land Stone no problem, because we have landed the vast majority of in-state talent last year and now looking out into the future 3 more..
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Quote from: willie warrior on September 03, 2013, 06:16:57 PM
Glad to hear all of this. I know Looney has written us off, but if the younger generation of players love Marquette, then we should land Stone with little problem.
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Quote from: willie warrior on September 03, 2013, 06:16:57 PM
Glad to hear all of this. I know Looney has written us off, but if the younger generation of players love Marquette, then we should land Stone with little problem.

LOL.   I am finally figuring out your schtick, Willie.   You are actually hilarious!   
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Quote from: willie warrior on September 03, 2013, 06:16:57 PM
Glad to hear all of this. I know Looney has written us off, but if the younger generation of players love Marquette, then we should land Stone with little problem.

Too much blue and gold kool aid or Willie at his passive aggressive best? Now that's something we can figure out with "little problem".

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Quote from: willie warrior on September 03, 2013, 06:16:57 PM
Glad to hear all of this. I know Looney has written us off, but if the younger generation of players love Marquette, then we should land Stone with little problem.

Stone will be a tough get, all good players are.  MU has gotten their share of quality in staters for many years, and more than their share from Milwaukee. We'll see where it goes.

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Tony Smith
McIlvaine
Logtermann
Key
Matthews
Pieper
Diener
Merritt
Christopherson (transferred out)
Maymon (transferred out)
Novak
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Jamil Wilson
Robert Jackson (transferred in)
Buycks
Sanders
Shannon Smith (transferred out)
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Lost our fair share as well....Dekker, Portman, Landry, Harris, Jerry Smith, Tokoto, Wolf, Bennett, Van Exel, Porter, Sprewell, Stiemsma, etc

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Quote from: tower912 on September 03, 2013, 07:05:27 PM
LOL.   I am finally figuring out your schtick, Willie.   You are actually hilarious!   
I'm not the one that said the younger Wisconsin players love Marquette. I am the one that said we should not continue to offer excuses why we cannot land a stud big every 10 years or so, especially ones that are in our backyard. But I know, we are not Duke or Ky. By the way, I see Providence got a commitment from the #5 Center the other day. Last time I looked, Providence is not Duke or Ky. either.
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Also Trevor Powell and Dean Marquardt....

I know you didn't include any of the 3 new kids yet because they haven't proven themselves yet but I will be very surprised if at least 2 of Burton, Wilson and Mckay aren't added to the list by the end of their careers.

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Quote from: MuMark on September 03, 2013, 07:51:57 PM
Also Trevor Powell and Dean Marquardt....

I know you didn't include any of the 3 new kids yet because they haven't proven themselves yet but I will be very surprised if at least 2 of Burton, Wilson and Mckay aren't added to the list by the end of their careers.

Damn...Powell played when I was at MU, can't believe I forgot him....and the cross street where I live is Marquardt and I always tell my son there was a solid MU player of that name.

Good catches on both and the new kids.

tower912

Quote from: willie warrior on September 03, 2013, 07:49:24 PM
I'm not the one that said the younger Wisconsin players love Marquette. I am the one that said we should not continue to offer excuses why we cannot land a stud big every 10 years or so, especially ones that are in our backyard. But I know, we are not Duke or Ky. By the way, I see Providence got a commitment from the #5 Center the other day. Last time I looked, Providence is not Duke or Ky. either.

LOL.   Incomparable comedic delivery.    Well done. 
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Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on September 03, 2013, 07:22:58 PM
Stone will be a tough get, all good players are.  MU has gotten their share of quality in staters for many years, and more than their share from Milwaukee. We'll see where it goes.

Kojis
Chones
Tony Smith
McIlvaine
Logtermann
Key
Matthews
Pieper
Diener
Merritt
Christopherson (transferred out)
Maymon (transferred out)
Novak
Blue
Jamil Wilson
Robert Jackson (transferred in)
Buycks
Sanders
Shannon Smith (transferred out)
Lovette


Lost our fair share as well....Dekker, Portman, Landry, Harris, Jerry Smith, Tokoto, Wolf, Bennett, Van Exel, Porter, Sprewell, Stiemsma, etc


Since Jim Chones in 1969 (44 years ago), Wisconsin has produced two (2) top 10 rated big men: Joe Wolf and Brian Butch. Majerus lost Wolf to UNC and Crean lost Butch to UW. The other players you list (post Chones) were nice players but not in that categogory. And some of the players we "lost" we never recruited.

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  Where are Mike Flory and Pat Foley on the list of MU players from Wisconsin?   Or Roman Muller, for that matter?    "the biggest sleeper since Rip Van Winkle."
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It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

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Losing Wolf was a HUGE blow to the program back in the day.  It would be interesting to see how the next 10 years might have been if he had decided to attend MU.

MuMark

Caron Butler was another one we didn't get....he moved out of state to go to prep school and I'm not sure we even recruited him but he was obviously a big time player.

ps.  Porter wasn't recruited by anybody so not sure its fair to say he was a guy we "lost"

Freeport Warrior

Quote from: willie warrior on September 03, 2013, 06:16:57 PM
Glad to hear all of this. I know Looney has written us off, but if the younger generation of players love Marquette, then we should land Stone with little problem.
We are not getting Stone. The people closest too him don't know where he's going, but almost all of them say it isn't Marquette. Sure, he still takes the comp tickets to MU games, etc., but there is a lot more at play. These are things I've heard. Diamond wants to be his own man and get out of Duane's shadow (there's so much more to this). Stone's dad doesn't like Buzz's "schtick." Stone's dad runs the show and wants to get offers "from every school" before making a decision. Stone prefers WI over Marquette (it hurts to even type this). Stone should have played up with Ray Allen Select since 15U and they would have been arguably the best AAU team in the country, but his dad turned it down every year because he wants an offense that runs through Diamond. As a result, they have a good AAU team, but get pounded by guard pressure in national tournaments because the guards on the team are good, but not great, or on the same level as RAS. One guy mentioned they like Georgetown and thought they have a good shot at him because of their development of bigs. But I've heard from more than a few people that he really does like Wisconsin, which blows my mind.

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Quote from: Freeport Warrior on September 03, 2013, 09:05:00 PM
We are not getting Stone. The people closest too him don't know where he's going, but almost all of them say it isn't Marquette. Sure, he still takes the comp tickets to MU games, etc., but there is a lot more at play. These are things I've heard. Diamond wants to be his own man and get out of Duane's shadow (there's so much more to this). Stone's dad doesn't like Buzz's "schtick." Stone's dad runs the show and wants to get offers "from every school" before making a decision. Stone prefers WI over Marquette (it hurts to even type this). Stone should have played up with Ray Allen Select since 15U and they would have been arguably the best AAU team in the country, but his dad turned it down every year because he wants an offense that runs through Diamond. As a result, they have a good AAU team, but get pounded by guard pressure in national tournaments because the guards on the team are good, but not great, or on the same level as RAS. One guy mentioned they like Georgetown and thought they have a good shot at him because of their development of bigs. But I've heard from more than a few people that he really does like Wisconsin, which blows my mind.

And there it is.  I knew I heard that somewhere before.  I just couldn't remember if it was Stone's father or some other recruit.  Anyway, there was another poster who came on here a month or so back and guaranteed that Stone would be at MU, and he claimed to have solid info (so much so that 'Stone to MU' was his signature).

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