Big East vs others by decade

[Galway Eagle]

I promised I was making those spreadsheets by decade I just added the 90s
All Time (edited for 2014-15 conferences)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmrktsB2uZoUdDhXVEhGVXk1Q0F5QVVLaVo1ZnJFZ1E#gid=0

2000s
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmrktsB2uZoUdGNEemFDZWZBMElpdmU3bEgyWUw2TUE#gid=0

1990s
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmrktsB2uZoUdHc2N09DQVlZczRuR1BkRTF4cVphd1E#gid=0

1970s
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AmrktsB2uZoUdFBCanljeWM0cG56RHVNRTFjNURSUHc

[marquette20]

We have 10 teams in our conference. The rest have 12 or more. SEC and PAC benefits greatly from this.  AAC is nothing once you move Louisville.

[Aughnanure]

Can we just stop putting Louisville and Rutgers in the AAC, and Maryland in the ACC? It skews it too much.

[Galway Eagle]

Can we just stop putting Louisville and Rutgers in the AAC, and Maryland in the ACC? It skews it too much.

Ugh picky picky picky

[Galway Eagle]

We have 10 teams in our conference. The rest have 12 or more. SEC and PAC benefits greatly from this.  AAC is nothing once you move Louisville.

Ya was pretty shocked how low their numbers were even with Louisville

[Aughnanure]

Ugh picky picky picky

Thankssss

[Galway Eagle]

Thankssss

Who's joining the AAC after Ville leaves so I can add their numbers?

[MU Buff]

Who's joining the AAC after Ville leaves so I can add their numbers?

Louisville and Rutgers out.  East Carolina, Tulane, Tulsa in.

[Galway Eagle]

Louisville and Rutgers out.  East Carolina, Tulane, Tulsa in.

Thanks

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

We have 10 teams in our conference. The rest have 12 or more. SEC and PAC benefits greatly from this.  AAC is nothing once you move Louisville.

UCONN's two championships are still worth something. More than anyone in our conference has. If only they would drop football...

[Dawson Rental]

Louisville and Rutgers out.  East Carolina, Tulane, Tulsa in.

Not a lot to add in there.

[Aughnanure]

UCONN's two championships are still worth something. More than anyone in our conference has. If only they would drop football...

Agreed.

At the end of the day, the difference b/t the Big XII, SEC, Pac-12, AAC, and the Big East will be marginal. Our strength/goal is to have a stronger middle than any of those leagues.

But they all have arguably a blue blood-type program while we are lacking, except maybe in Georgetown's national perception.

We won't be considered true equals until someone from our league wins the championship.

[Atticus]

Georgetown's national perception? Choking in the ncaa tourney?

People in DC dont even care about Georgetown.

[bilsu]

UCONN's two championships are still worth something. More than anyone in our conference has. If only they would drop football...

Uconn was not any good prior to Calhoun. Will the success continue under Ollie?

[Galway Eagle]

Agreed.

At the end of the day, the difference b/t the Big XII, SEC, Pac-12, AAC, and the Big East will be marginal. Our strength/goal is to have a stronger middle than any of those leagues.

But they all have arguably a blue blood-type program while we are lacking, except maybe in Georgetown's national perception.

We won't be considered true equals until someone from our league wins the championship.

Couldn't agree more although I believe that the championship or next final four really needs to come from us nova or GTown because the three of us are the flagship programs of the new league so if it doesn't come from one of them people won't start to think that there's a new blue blood in our league

[Aughnanure]

Georgetown's national perception? Choking in the ncaa tourney?

People in DC dont even care about Georgetown.

Well that's simply not true.

[Aughnanure]

Couldn't agree more although I believe that the championship or next final four really needs to come from us nova or GTown because the three of us are the flagship programs of the new league so if it doesn't come from one of them people won't start to think that there's a new blue blood in our league

Add St. John's to that.

[Galway Eagle]

Add St. John's to that.

No.  A team with no titles, has 3 tournament appearances since 2000 none of which got into the second weekend is not a flagship program.  Heck even seton hall got a sweet 16 in this era.  (I love these charts it's so easy to pull up facts now)

[Aughnanure]

No.  A team with no titles, has 3 tournament appearances since 2000 none of which got into the second weekend is not a flagship program. 

#7 most all-time winning program.

The Johnnies are a name program and would get a ton of attention if they got good. Remember a few years ago when they beat Duke (+ others), got in the top 25, made the tourney, etc? ESPN and the media were all over them immediately.

[Dawson Rental]

No.  A team with no titles, has 3 tournament appearances since 2000 none of which got into the second weekend is not a flagship program. 

Yet, they have a better chance than most of being the new league's first champion. 

[Galway Eagle]

#7 most all-time winning program.

The Johnnies are a name program and would get a ton of attention if they got good. Remember a few years ago when they beat Duke (+ others), got in the top 25, made the tourney, etc? ESPN and the media were all over them immediately.

Stuff like that doesn't mean jack when you suck in this era.  To me (and most people around my age) St. John's is like a Facebook status when it's up everybody likes them but it gets forgotten quickly as better things show up in the newsfeed

[Galway Eagle]

Yet, they have a better chance than most of being the new league's first champion. 

I agree with you there but I'd never call them a flagship program because the stars were right for them this year.  Not saying that they're forever going to be an after thought, they can get back to being a big deal but going into this league right now they are not who you want to market through.  Heck most college students weren't around for Lou Carnesecca the same way they weren't around for ray Meyer

[TinyTimsLittleBrother]

Stuff like that doesn't mean jack when you suck in this era.  To me (and most people around my age) St. John's is like a Facebook status when it's up everybody likes them but it gets forgotten quickly as better things show up in the newsfeed

Just because you have the attention span of a gnat, doesn't mean that you are correct.

St. John's is clearly a flagship program of the NBE.  Put it this way, if the ACC ever decided to invite "basketball schools" into their membership, Georgetown would be a clear #1, and I think SJU goes #2 ahead of Nova.  Marquette wouldn't be on their radar.

[Galway Eagle]

Just because you have the attention span of a gnat, doesn't mean that you are correct.

St. John's is clearly a flagship program of the NBE.  Put it this way, if the ACC ever decided to invite "basketball schools" into their membership, Georgetown would be a clear #1, and I think SJU goes #2 ahead of Nova.  Marquette wouldn't be on their radar.

Is there a reason you go straight to insulting when you enter a conversation? Did someone hurt you as a child? You can feel safe to talk about it.  But please make a case why a team with no championships, less final fours, terrible recent history, less overall tournament bids, less sweet 16s less elite 8s would be invited over us for anything other than NYC market. 

[TinyTimsLittleBrother]

Is there a reason you go straight to insulting when you enter a conversation?

Because I enjoy it.

But please make a case why a team with no championships, less final fours, terrible recent history, less overall tournament bids, less sweet 16s less elite 8s would be invited over us for anything other than NYC market. 

Well, that's pretty much the point isn't it?  They are the primary college team in the largest city in the county and probably the greatest basketball city in the world.  They have a long and legendary past, and have all the tools in place to rebound quickly.

Again, just because you don't have the historical perspective to understand that, doesn't mean you are correct.