[Paint Touches] Analyzing Marquette’s transfers under Buzz Williams

[PaintTouches]

Transfers have been common under Buzz but have they been abnormal? We did some digging and found that while not troubling in general, there are a few places Marquette could use improvement. http://bit.ly/12qg2Wj

We also created a table with all 12 transfers tracking there locations and achievements since moving away from Milwaukee. http://bit.ly/133r4AC

[Skatastrophy]

A couple of those players were asked to leave after having serious off-court problems that were not publicized.

[Jay Bee]

When will you be unveiling the JUCO "Squirmy" Tracker?

[Golden Avalanche]

I just don't see Roseboro, Newbill, Durley, or Taylor as transfers. Maybe technically they are but talk about stretching limits.

Forgot about McMorrow. "Medically Incapacitated". Ha.

[Clam Crowder]

Newbill and Maymon are the only 2 I wish didnt leave particularly Newbill. He would be a good piece on this current team.

[Dawson Rental]

Newbill and Maymon are the only 2 I wish didnt leave particularly Newbill. He would be a good piece on this current team.

The problem with Newbill is no Jamil Wilson, since Jamil took Newbill's scholarship.

[Benny B]

The problem with Newbill is no Jamil Wilson, since Jamil took Newbill's scholarship.

But.... but....  but.... the "we'd be better if Newbill was on the team" argument is infallible.

[MerrittsMustache]

The problem with Newbill is no Jamil Wilson, since Jamil took Newbill's scholarship.

Also, no Crowder if Maymon stays.

[MerrittsMustache]

Transfers have been common under Buzz but have they been abnormal? We did some digging and found that while not troubling in general, there are a few places Marquette could use improvement. http://bit.ly/12qg2Wj

We also created a table with all 12 transfers tracking there locations and achievements since moving away from Milwaukee. http://bit.ly/133r4AC

North Texas' head coach is Tony Benford, not Tony Bennett.

[Shooter Flatch]

Is there more to the Erik Williams story?

[downtown85]

Missing:

Tevor Mbakwe and the rapist who was accepted then had the scholly pulled (cant remember his name).  Using the criteria of transfers in this article, they should be included no?

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

I just don't see Roseboro, Newbill, Durley, or Taylor as transfers. Maybe technically they are but talk about stretching limits.

Forgot about McMorrow. "Medically Incapacitated". Ha.

MU offered scholarships and those kids accepted. If they change schools, that's a transfer.

I don't say that to be a dick, but those are the facts. It's not arbitrary.

[Brewtown Andy]

Missing:

Tevor Mbakwe and the rapist who was accepted then had the scholly pulled (cant remember his name).  Using the criteria of transfers in this article, they should be included no?

Mbakwe was a Crean recruit & chose to leave rather than play for Buzz.

I don't know how you want to classify that.

[forgetful]

MU offered scholarships and those kids accepted. If they change schools, that's a transfer.

I don't say that to be a dick, but those are the facts. It's not arbitrary.

Transfers need to sit out a year.  I don't believe anyone on that list had to sit out at all.  In that regard they are not viewed as transfers, rather individuals who changed their mind before officially committing to the University.

So no...they are not transfers.  

[Galway Eagle]

I don't see Newbill as a transfer, transfer to me implies that they decide to leave his scholarship was pulled.  And McMorrow I don't see either, he was medically unable to compete and left for a stronger broadcasting school (was what I was told years ago). 

[LAZER]

Transfers need to sit out a year.  I don't believe anyone on that list had to sit out at all.  In that regard they are not viewed as transfers, rather individuals who changed their mind before officially committing to the University.

So no...they are not transfers.  

So Lockett wasn't a transfer?

[GGGG]

Newbill never got to campus.  He wasn't a transfer.  Both Roseboro and TJT got to campus and enrolled.  They were transfers. 

[T-Bone]

Garrett Swanson?  Our swan song in the Northwest.

(nevermind, glossed over that point for the pretty graphics...)

[Tugg Speedman]

Missing:

Tevor Mbakwe and the rapist who was accepted then had the scholly pulled (cant remember his name).  Using the criteria of transfers in this article, they should be included no?

That would be Montrale Clark.  He is from Milwaukee and went to Edison

Played Juco at Hill Community College (where the allegation took place)

[Lennys Tap]

MU offered scholarships and those kids accepted. If they change schools, that's a transfer.

I don't say that to be a dick, but those are the facts. It's not arbitrary.

Billy Donovan was offered a job by Kentucky. Accepted. Changed his mind and stayed at Florida. Those are the facts. So I guess in your world, his resume' includes "coaching" at Kentucky. Not in mine. You can't quit a job you never really started - or transfer from a school you never attended. Monterell Clark was offered by Marquette and accepted. Do you feel he transferred from JC to MU and then transferred from MU to prison? Sounds crazy.

[GGGG]

Clark never signed his NLI.  That would be like saying Aaron Bowen was a transfer.

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

Billy Donovan was offered a job by Kentucky. Accepted. Changed his mind and stayed at Florida. Those are the facts. So I guess in your world, his resume' includes "coaching" at Kentucky. Not in mine. You can't quit a job you never really started - or transfer from a school you never attended.

If Billy went and coached a couple practices at UK, and then went to another school, I would consider that a job change.

EDIT: I guess it's all just a semantics argument. For me, I'll just revise and say if the kid signs, and attends practices, and then leaves, that's a transfer. Roseboro comes to mind. Was there another guy like that? I can't remember.

[Lennys Tap]

Clark never signed his NLI.  That would be like saying Aaron Bowen was a transfer.

The point remains that it"s not just "offering" and "accepting". You can't transfer from a school when you've never been enrolled.

[Golden Avalanche]

If Billy went and coached a couple practices at UK, and then went to another school, I would consider that a job change.

EDIT: I guess it's all just a semantics argument. For me, I'll just revise and say if the kid signs, and attends practices, and then leaves, that's a transfer. Roseboro comes to mind. Was there another guy like that? I can't remember.

What about a kid who plays in four open gyms, never participates in an official practice, and never makes it to the first day of classes?

[MerrittsMustache]

Billy Donovan was offered a job by Kentucky. Accepted. Changed his mind and stayed at Florida. Those are the facts. So I guess in your world, his resume' includes "coaching" at Kentucky. Not in mine. You can't quit a job you never really started - or transfer from a school you never attended. Monterell Clark was offered by Marquette and accepted. Do you feel he transferred from JC to MU and then transferred from MU to prison? Sounds crazy.

Actually, Donovan accepted the job with the Orlando Magic and then went back to Florida. THOSE are the facts.