CBS Sports: Marquette Lands Top Class in Big East

[Aughnanure]

2013-14 Recruiting class breakdown from CBS/247

http://247sports.com/Article/Maquette-lands-top-class-in-Big-East-138441

[Coleman]

Nice breakdown. But no mention of Duane Wilson?

[CAGASS24]

Creighton; come on. With the success of back to back tourney appearances with wins, you'd think they could do a little better than that. I mean they're 70 spots back from the next closest big east member in the composites...

[GoldenBoy16]

I was thinking the same thing about Duane, but Im liking all the love about JaJuan.

[GGGG]

Creighton; come on. With the success of back to back tourney appearances with wins, you'd think they could do a little better than that. I mean they're 70 spots back from the next closest big east member in the composites...

Creighton without the coaches kid could end up to be a bottom feeder.

[Dawson Rental]

Creighton; come on. With the success of back to back tourney appearances with wins, you'd think they could do a little better than that. I mean they're 70 spots back from the next closest big east member in the composites...

Yet, there are some on this board that would prefer that MU have Creighton's class.  I mean they got two big men!  One's 6'9" and one's 6'10".

Look's like another year of recruiting failure by Buzz!

[ResidentBrown]

Best Defender: JaJuan Johnson

I thought I read that his defense was something he needed to work on. If his defense really is that good, to go along with his offensive prowess... watch out! We may have no need for Vander after all.

Also, not in the article but:

Best Dunker: Duane Wilson (or Deonte Burton - they both mass produce highlight slams)

[Les Nessman]

The SEC breakdown is laughable. It's all Kentucky, except for a few accolades.

[MUMonster03]

The SEC breakdown is laughable. It's all Kentucky, except for a few accolades.

What do you expect when they sign the top player in the nation at 4 of 5 positions and the 5th one is right up there as well? Everyone in the SEC (even the entire nation) got schooled by Kentucky in recruiting for this year. Now we will see if they can actually make a team out of that many highly rated players.

[bilsu]

Big 12
Kansas has best recruit a 4 positions. Embid rated #2 center in country.

[The Equalizer]

The SEC breakdown is laughable. It's all Kentucky, except for a few accolades.

I don't get this comment.  I count six SEC teams other than Kentucky that are ranked ahead of our second best class in 247's team rankings:

1. SEC - UK
5. SEC - LSU
10. BE - Marquette
15. SEC - Florida
16. SEC - Missouri
21. SEC - Arkansas
22. SEC - So. Carolina
26. SEC - Alabama
29. BE - Villanova
38. SEC - Tennessee
43. BE - Providence
49. BE - DePaul
53. BE - Xavier
55. SEC - Texas A&M
57. BE - Butler
59. SEC - Vanderbilt
55. SEC - Georgia
71. BE - St. Johns
74. SEC - Ole Miss
78. SEC - Auburn
86. BE - Seton Hall
97. SEC - MSU
151 BE - Creighton.

Obviously team performance is based on multiple classes of players--but for anyone to say that the 2013 SEC recruiting was "laughable" either can't be comparing them to the Big East, or they think that Big East recruiting is even more laughable.

[Coleman]

I don't get this comment.  I count six SEC teams other than Kentucky that are ranked ahead of our second best class in 247's team rankings:

1. SEC - UK
5. SEC - LSU
10. BE - Marquette
15. SEC - Florida
16. SEC - Missouri
21. SEC - Arkansas
22. SEC - So. Carolina
26. SEC - Alabama
29. BE - Villanova
38. SEC - Tennessee
43. BE - Providence
49. BE - DePaul
53. BE - Xavier
55. SEC - Texas A&M
57. BE - Butler
59. SEC - Vanderbilt
55. SEC - Georgia
71. BE - St. Johns
74. SEC - Ole Miss
78. SEC - Auburn
86. BE - Seton Hall
97. SEC - MSU
151 BE - Creighton.

Obviously team performance is based on multiple classes of players--but for anyone to say that the 2013 SEC recruiting was "laughable" either can't be comparing them to the Big East, or they think that Big East recruiting is even more laughable.

I think that was his point. It was laughable that Kentucky got all the accolades in that article when the rest of the conference had a very good year recruiting.

[Aughnanure]

I don't get this comment.  I count six SEC teams other than Kentucky that are ranked ahead of our second best class in 247's team rankings:

1. SEC - UK
5. SEC - LSU
10. BE - Marquette
15. SEC - Florida
16. SEC - Missouri
21. SEC - Arkansas
22. SEC - So. Carolina
26. SEC - Alabama
29. BE - Villanova
38. SEC - Tennessee
43. BE - Providence
49. BE - DePaul
53. BE - Xavier
55. SEC - Texas A&M
57. BE - Butler
59. SEC - Vanderbilt
55. SEC - Georgia
71. BE - St. Johns
74. SEC - Ole Miss
78. SEC - Auburn
86. BE - Seton Hall
97. SEC - MSU
151 BE - Creighton.

Obviously team performance is based on multiple classes of players--but for anyone to say that the 2013 SEC recruiting was "laughable" either can't be comparing them to the Big East, or they think that Big East recruiting is even more laughable.

Jesus Creighton. I know that class had probably committed before the Big East, but still. Yikes.

[Les Nessman]

I think that was his point. It was laughable that Kentucky got all the accolades in that article when the rest of the conference had a very good year recruiting.

Thank you. That was my point exactly. Kentucky's recruiting was so good that they have, for each position, the number one recruit in the conference coming in this year. That is insane.

[wiscwarrior]

Where is Georgetown?

[bilsu]

Where is Georgetown?

Washington DC 

[willie warrior]

Where is Georgetown?

Washington, D.C.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

Don't sleep on Creighton quite yet. They have had years of success (by success I mean MVC success) with these kinds of recruiting classes. They only had three scholarships to give this year. And the gems of their class are JUCOs who we should know better than anyone are consistently underranked.

Give them some time to recruit with the bonus of being in the BEast and they will be a decent team. Yes they will suck next year after McDermott leaves, but they will be back in a few years.

[wiscwarrior]

Washington DC 

My bad. I thought they weren't on the list 

[Aughnanure]

Don't sleep on Creighton quite yet. They have had years of success (by success I mean MVC success) with these kinds of recruiting classes. They only had three scholarships to give this year. And the gems of their class are JUCOs who we should know better than anyone are consistently underranked.

Give them some time to recruit with the bonus of being in the BEast and they will be a decent team. Yes they will suck next year after McDermott leaves, but they will be back in a few years.

Their main problem is going to be the reality that Greg McDermott is not Dana Altman.

[damuts222]

Don't sleep on Creighton quite yet. They have had years of success (by success I mean MVC success) with these kinds of recruiting classes. They only had three scholarships to give this year. And the gems of their class are JUCOs who we should know better than anyone are consistently underranked.

Give them some time to recruit with the bonus of being in the BEast and they will be a decent team. Yes they will suck next year after McDermott leaves, but they will be back in a few years.

That's exactly the problem, the NEW Big East doesn't have a couple years.  The precedent has to be set quickly that the Big East is a conference to be reckoned with in basketball, consistently getting 44-5 teams in the dance.  Also I wouldn't be surprised to see McDermott's father leave for greener pastures after his son graduates leaving Creighton in a bad spot.

[The Equalizer]

Thank you. That was my point exactly. Kentucky's recruiting was so good that they have, for each position, the number one recruit in the conference coming in this year. That is insane.

Sorry--thought the implication was that rest of the league's recruting is a joke, as in not up to the Big East standards.

I've read enough comments here that put down the SEC, B12 and P12, implying that aside from UK or Kansas or Arizona, those leagues have nobody worthwhile, and will likely be ranked behind the new Big East.

[Les Nessman]

Sorry--thought the implication was that rest of the league's recruting is a joke, as in not up to the Big East standards.

I've read enough comments here that put down the SEC, B12 and P12, implying that aside from UK or Kansas or Arizona, those leagues have nobody worthwhile, and will likely be ranked behind the new Big East.

Not a problem.

[Aughnanure]

Sorry--thought the implication was that rest of the league's recruting is a joke, as in not up to the Big East standards.

I've read enough comments here that put down the SEC, B12 and P12, implying that aside from UK or Kansas or Arizona, those leagues have nobody worthwhile, and will likely be ranked behind the new Big East.

While I kind of agree with you, the Pac-12 deserves its reputation. The Big XII has solid but unspectacular quality, only one star (they really missed out on Louisville), but not a ton of awful teams (TTech, TCU). SEC has a bunch of garbage teams, but they also have 14 total so they should have more bottom feeders. They're much deeper that people give them credit for. If most of Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Arkansas, LSU and Missouri can get rolling their top half will rival any league.

[TAMU, Knower of Ball]

That's exactly the problem, the NEW Big East doesn't have a couple years.  The precedent has to be set quickly that the Big East is a conference to be reckoned with in basketball, consistently getting 44-5 teams in the dance.  Also I wouldn't be surprised to see McDermott's father leave for greener pastures after his son graduates leaving Creighton in a bad spot.

True, but we don't need Creighton to be one of those 4-5 teams in the coming years. Marquette, Georgetown, and Villanova should be good to get in the tourney every year. St. John's is on a huge upswing this year, Providence is on the up and up, Butler will be down next season but should be up again in a year or two, and Xavier was the most dominant midmajor outside of Gonzaga. When Creighton falls, some collection of these teams will rise to take their place.

Also, we will probably expand in the next year or two. On one hand, that will raise expectations to 5-6 teams a year, but on the other hand, those teams could be VCU and Gonzaga.