Recruiting

[boyonthedock]

He's playing us man!

IF YOU WANT ANSWERS FOLLOW THE MONEY!

[Eldon]

I'm going to go out on a limb here and predict that you don't teach English at Dominican.

Thanks for the information, its truly fantastic news.

Well played.

Goldenboy, you gotta understand some people's skepticism, what with internet trolls and Badger fans on here spreading rumors.

There was the rumor that Aki warned of 'severe' infractions bout to happen at MU.  Clearly false.  Then there was the rumor that Vander Blue would declare for the draft a couple days actually prior to him declaring, thus turning out to be true.

By the way, anybody got that picture that that Vander-is-declaring-early poster promised?  I don't wanna see it or anything, just wondering if that guy kept his promise lol

[Dawson Rental]

Thats why I never post on this board. If someone has something to say, you guys just hate and then make fun of them.

I was thinking that you clue into the second sentence where I said;

"Thanks for the information, its truly fantastic news."

Once again, thanks.  I'm choosing to believe.

[bilsu]

Even if Stone committed today, it is to soon to be sure he is coming.

[KenoshaWarrior]

That was in reference to a kenoshawarrior post -. Supposedly the teacher told him Stone was going to commit to UW.

not true.  The teacher said he was a UW lean not a commit

[Stronghold]

not true.  The teacher said he was a UW lean not a commit

Leaning in boredom is all he would be doing in the UW offense.

[Galway Eagle]

Am I the only one who realizes that we desperately need some Jucos?  The classes are extremely unbalanced.  We graduate 4 this year and 5 next year then will only have 1 senior. 

[bilsu]

Given the way players transfer, I do not think balancing classes is that important.

[Nukem2]

Given the way players transfer, I do not think balancing classes is that important.

5 years go ago, Buzz and Tony and Aki made comments about the importance of balancing classes quite often.  Not hearing that any more from the staff.

[cven7]

Given the way players transfer, I do not think balancing classes is that important.

The way players transfer today, I think that balancing classes becomes more important than ever.  The 8 scholarship players that will graduate over the next two seasons in Boxer's scenario are the least likely to transfer.   If there are no transfers over the next 2 years, that puts a maximum of 5 upperclassmen on the 2015-2016 team.   If 1 to 2 freshman or sophomores per year continue to transfer out, that could wittle it down to 2 to 3 upperclassmen for 2015-2016.  On average, it's safe to say that teams with a majority of juniors and seniors will perform better than teams with a majority of freshman and sophomores, so without infusion of juco's or transfers in the next 2 years, we'll likely be very young in 2015-2016, and possibly less successful.

[GGGG]

Am I the only one who realizes that we desperately need some Jucos?  The classes are extremely unbalanced.  We graduate 4 this year and 5 next year then will only have 1 senior. 

But MU will have four juniors the year they have one senior.

[bilsu]

I see nothing wrong on taking a juco, if he can play. I just do not think you look to take a juco to balance the classes. You always recruit the best talent.

[Galway Eagle]

But MU will have four juniors the year they have one senior.

There's a huge difference between seniors and juniors though compare jimmy butler Jr and senior, or Jae Crowder.

[GGGG]

There's a huge difference between seniors and juniors though compare jimmy butler Jr and senior, or Jae Crowder.

So you want to get Jucos because you think that seniors>>>>>>>>>>juniors???

Talented juniors>>>>>>>>>>>less talented seniors. 

[Jay Bee]

There's a huge difference between seniors and juniors though compare jimmy butler Jr and senior, or Jae Crowder.

There can be a big difference between an individual player's junior year and senior year (though generally the FR to So year is the big jump... Butler & Jae of course not 4-yr D-I players though). But, the more important comparison to be made when deciding on players to recruit isn't about their year vs. the year of other players... it's is about them as bball players vs. other players.

[Dawson Rental]

There can be a big difference between an individual player's junior year and senior year (though generally the FR to So year is the big jump... Butler & Jae of course not 4-yr D-I players though). But, the more important comparison to be made when deciding on players to recruit isn't about their year vs. the year of other players... it's is about them as bball players vs. other players.

Agreed.  Sometimes when one looks at the more esoteric considerations, one can lose sight of the fundamental criteria.

[Galway Eagle]

There can be a big difference between an individual player's junior year and senior year (though generally the FR to So year is the big jump... Butler & Jae of course not 4-yr D-I players though). But, the more important comparison to be made when deciding on players to recruit isn't about their year vs. the year of other players... it's is about them as bball players vs. other players.

Ok, but traditionally Buzz relies on seniors to carry the team at least as long as I've been an MU fan/student (08-09) so I have trouble believing that just Steve Taylor could carry us that year unless somehow he becomes Lazar Hayward reincarnate. 

[BCHoopster]

He will not have seniors to fall back on in 2015-2016, but his 4 freshman will be juniors then and MU will be fine.  Wilson, Johnson, Burton and Taylor look solid, add Diamond Stone and
you have your starting 5 in 2 years.  Throw in Cohen, Harris and Dawson and that is a sold 8 man rotation.  Still leaves MU with 5 scholarship opportunities  so you have to think more talent
will be coming in the future.  I still think Buzz will find a big for next year.

[Galway Eagle]

He will not have seniors to fall back on in 2015-2016, but his 4 freshman will be juniors then and MU will be fine.  Wilson, Johnson, Burton and Taylor look solid, add Diamond Stone and
you have your starting 5 in 2 years.  Throw in Cohen, Harris and Dawson and that is a sold 8 man rotation.  Still leaves MU with 5 scholarship opportunities  so you have to think more talent
will be coming in the future.  I still think Buzz will find a big for next year.

You forgot Nick Noskowiak.  And if we don't have a big next year I think we'll be fine with Jameel playing center and Steve Taylor playing PF

[BCHoopster]

You forgot Nick Noskowiak.  And if we don't have a big next year I think we'll be fine with Jameel playing center and Steve Taylor playing PF

That leaves 4 openings, forgot about Nick as it is 2 years away, no way that Jameel plays center, he is more of a 3 than even a 4.  Runs the floor really well, no bulk.  Steve Taylor might
be your center in 2 years. Taylor, McKay and Burton will not be that bad.  Johnson or Mayo and Wilson, will be very talented anyway you look at it.

[GGGG]

That leaves 4 openings, forgot about Nick as it is 2 years away, no way that Jameel plays center, he is more of a 3 than even a 4.

I can pretty much guaranty that Jameel sees significant time in the post in 2014-15.  In fact he is the likely starter since the only other options would be a freshman or a transfer of some sort.

And he isn't a three.  He doesn't have the outside game for that.

[LAZER]

On a related note, MU target Quadri Moore has narrowed his final 3 to Cincinnati, Seton Hall, and Miami.

[BCHoopster]

I can pretty much guaranty that Jameel sees significant time in the post in 2014-15.  In fact he is the likely starter since the only other options would be a freshman or a transfer of some sort.

And he isn't a three.  He doesn't have the outside game for that.

His body is more like a 3, he does play inside but right now he is awful skinny to defend in the post.  Can play zone to off-set size.  Offensively you can play wide open like Kentucky does.

[Galway Eagle]

His body is more like a 3, he does play inside but right now he is awful skinny to defend in the post.  Can play zone to off-set size.  Offensively you can play wide open like Kentucky does.

Buzz would never play open like that, think of our star players recently Lazar, Jimmy, Crowder, all undersized post players.  Lazar and Jimmy both had to bulk up and I see Jameel the same way. (Though more like Jimmy than the Lazar/Crowder type player).  I Agree he is pretty skinny Which is why I'd expect more of a double 4 type situation as opposed to putting either Steve or Jameel as an undersized Center. 

[bilsu]

Barring any other additions, I think Taylor is more likely to play center than Mckay is.