Can we be proud of D. Wade?

[Slim]

How so?  A team like the heat who collected a group of hall of famers,

Interesting point. Will Wade be the first Warrior in the NBA HoF?

And yes I am very proud of him and support all alumni in the league.

[MU B2002]

The reason why Bulls fans hate the Heat is that LeBron was reported to be joining the Bulls and at the last minute he played with Miami and Bosch wanted to join with him.   
If LeBron joined the Bulls he would have brought Bosch with him and colluded that way but somehow Im sure that wouldnt have been a problem for you.  #FIBLogic

Bosh.

He may be a tool, but he's not a power tool.

[KenoshaWarrior]

I still like him too, but wonder if Lebron has taught him a few bad habits...

He's a good dude, it's just hard to root for him now.

What bad Lebron habits?

Dude is the best 3 man to play basketball ever.  Are you talking about Bad Habits like
1.Donating a ton of money to boys and girls club
2. Not getting arrested?
3. Smiling during games?

[KenoshaWarrior]

LBJ didn't owe anything to Cleveland much less this "betray" BS.  And last I checked, none of them broke a contract.  And as for being a "ring chaser," that has a long history in professional sports.  Wilt himself did it.  So it's hard for me to blame him for that.


Uhh...you sure about that???  Because I think you are wrong on both counts.

LeBron is from Akron which is 50 miles away from Cleveland.  Cleveland is not hometown team.

Ask Jamil Wilson or Jim Mac where they are from?   They wont say Milwaukee they will say Racine.

[KenoshaWarrior]

So who's Miami's MVP:

We all know who will win it if they close out the series, but i'd probably go with Mike Miller, or Wade.

Disagree.  It is Lebron.   LeBron does everything even when is not scoring.   He plays great D, Sets some ridiculous picks, and he finds the open man which gets the d-fense scrambling.

Even when he does not get an assist, he makes that first pass that gets the d-moving

[KenoshaWarrior]

Interesting point. Will Wade be the first Warrior in the NBA HoF?

And yes I am very proud of him and support all alumni in the league.

Yes.  He will be first Ballot as well!!

[MerrittsMustache]

The reason why Bulls fans hate the Heat is that LeBron was reported to be joining the Bulls and at the last minute he played with Miami and Bosch wanted to join with him.   
If LeBron joined the Bulls he would have brought Bosch with him and colluded that way but somehow Im sure that wouldnt have been a problem for you.  #FIBLogic

Bulls fans hate the Heat because they're the primary roadblock to the Bulls reaching the NBA Finals. Period.

[Hubert Davis]

Wade said "swaaaappp!" last night. Bang bang. Flash is BACK

Favorite MU player of all-time

[ChicosBailBonds]

Most Important to Marquette basketball in the last 30 years...FINAL FOUR and D-WADE.  Bar None

[ChicosBailBonds]

I don't recall Jordan, Scottie, and Rodman holding a pep rally and claiming they'd win 7 titles before stepping foot on the court together. IMHO its perfectly fair to hate on the Heat. They brought it on themselves with the summer of sham.

Thus, heads explode if they win.

LOVE IT....though I really don't care.  Not watching the games, but any pub that D-Wade gets is good for Marquette. Three rings for him would suit me just fine.

[Aughnanure]

Disagree.  It is Lebron.   LeBron does everything even when is not scoring.   He plays great D, Sets some ridiculous picks, and he finds the open man which gets the d-fense scrambling.

Even when he does not get an assist, he makes that first pass that gets the d-moving

I dunno. It's a part of the narrative. If Wade leads them in another game or 2, then I think its hard not to. In the Dallas series a few years ago it looked like Wade was going to be MVP. Rebounds, Assists are nice, but its what you're going to remember about the series and some crucial big moments that will decide the MVP.

I don't think the writers will balk at giving it to someone other than LeBron if they can.

[ChicosBailBonds]

For good reason too. They make themselves unlikable. They really do deserve the hate they get cause they really are super arrogant. For as good as they think they are you would have thought they went 82-0. I really dislike the Spurs as well but for this one series I hope they whip the Heat the next two games.

What is the correlation of hatred and really good teams?  I'm going to say VERY HIGH.

They are under the microscope all the time, anything they say is examined and often twisted or taken out of context. Now, no one is going to argue with you that they bring things on themselves, but so do other NBA teams but no one pays attention or cares because they aren't the Heat...the level of scrutiny is totally different.  Lebron sneezes, it's in the news. 

One thing that I disagree with people on is the idea that they are selfish for joining a team together.  They took a pay cut to do it and they want to win titles, which should be the goal.  Too many athletes go for the dollars with the ring as almost an after thought. 

[Coleman]

One thing that I disagree with people on is the idea that they are selfish for joining a team together.  They took a pay cut to do it and they want to win titles, which should be the goal.  Too many athletes go for the dollars with the ring as almost an after thought. 

I agree with this.

But I think a big reason for the hatred you ignored was the way Lebron left Cleveland and went to Miami, not so much that they joined up.

[source?]

I'll always cheer for Wade. I hope he scores 40 every night. I also hope the Heat get absolutely dominated the next two games and are embarrassed on their home court to end the series. If James came down hard after a dunk and his knee exploded I wouldn't shed a tear either.

[ATL MU Warrior]

One thing that I disagree with people on is the idea that they are selfish for joining a team together.  They took a pay cut to do it and they want to win titles, which should be the goal.  Too many athletes go for the dollars with the ring as almost an after thought. 

Amen.  

[Hards Alumni]

I'll always cheer for Wade. I hope he scores 40 every night. I also hope the Heat get absolutely dominated the next two games and are embarrassed on their home court to end the series. If James came down hard after a dunk and his knee exploded I wouldn't shed a tear either.

I really don't understand the hate for LBJ.

[only a warrior]

I really don't understand the hate for LBJ.

One of the worst Presidents in modern history.....

[jsglow]

Bulls fans hate the Heat because they're the primary roadblock to the Bulls reaching the NBA Finals. Period.

I'm a Bulls fan and I'd argue that the primary roadblock might be that guy who spent the year in street clothes.

I'm also a Heat fan and have been since the day DWade put on the uniform.  His performance last night was special.  I sincerely hope he has two more in the tank these next few days.

As to HOF and retired number; absolutely.  Done deal.

[Sunbelt15]

I don't recall Jordan, Scottie, and Rodman holding a pep rally and claiming they'd win 7 titles before stepping foot on the court together. IMHO its perfectly fair to hate on the Heat. They brought it on themselves with the summer of sham.

That's so three years ago. Get over it and enjoy the excitement they bring to the game.

[macman320]

Will always cheer for Wade. We wouldn't be the team to beat in the Big East next year without him.
I thought he was old and done and the Heat would be better served with Chalmers and Cole all game. He proved me wrong. I can't imagine the pain he feels between games. He is a fighter.
Lebron seems like a pretty good guy on and off the court. Doesn't draw many technicals or personal attention that is non-basketball related off the court.

Remember when Scottie Pippen beat up his wife? MJ was the top on the court, haven't heard he was such a gem off of the court.

Wade and LBJ are easy to cheer for. They play hard. And maybe what is hard for people to swallow about Wade is that he plays through pain.

[patso]

I thought Maurice Lucas was in the Hall of Fame but he is not. The NBA HOF is the most difficult to get in.

[Sunbelt15]

That's why no one outside of NY likes the Yankees. And hardly anyone outside of Miami likes the heat.

I guess that's why their team jerseys are some of the best selling, worldwide! Get out of your bubble dude.

[hairy worthen]

What is the correlation of hatred and really good teams?  I'm going to say VERY HIGH.

They are under the microscope all the time, anything they say is examined and often twisted or taken out of context. Now, no one is going to argue with you that they bring things on themselves, but so do other NBA teams but no one pays attention or cares because they aren't the Heat...the level of scrutiny is totally different.  Lebron sneezes, it's in the news. 

One thing that I disagree with people on is the idea that they are selfish for joining a team together.  They took a pay cut to do it and they want to win titles, which should be the goal.  Too many athletes go for the dollars with the ring as almost an after thought. 

The level of hatred depends on the specific team.  Other than their rivals and in general, did people hate the dominant 49er teams of the 80s and 90s? No.  The Packer super bowl teams. No.   The Cowboy super bowl teams. Yes.  The difference is that one team had flashy, arrogant players, an arrogant owner and coach and the other teams had generally classy players, coaches and owners.  It's not how good the teams are, it's who is on the teams, the team's make up and style of play, coaches owners, etc.  Contrary to what you are saying, generally winning teams are well liked and popular.  Look at the apparel sales after a team wins a championship.

As far as taking a pay cut, I am not sure about that. Much more exposure in Miami, more endorsements, no state income tax. I am not sure their motives were totally unselfish.

[Chicago_inferiority_complexes]

What is the correlation of hatred and really good teams?  I'm going to say VERY HIGH.

Minus the Cubs, very true . . .

[MUSF]

How so?  A team like the heat who collected a group of hall of famers, players that planned this at their draft, take the easy way out, which warrants hate and lack of respect. That's why no one outside of NY likes the Yankees. And hardly anyone outside of Miami likes the heat.

First, the idea that Lebron owed Cleveland anything is ridiculous. How many of us still live in our hometown? How many lawyers,  economists, doctors, engineers, etc. feel obligated to only pursue professional opportunities in their hometown, or stay with the first organization that hired them. Only in sports do we expect this type of blind professional loyalty. Lebron still does plenty for Akron. He doesn't owe the Cavs or their fans a damn thing.

Second, I can't believe people criticize the Heat for "taking a short cut" by assembling a roster with the best players available. That is simply good business. Why go through the tedious process of finding and developing new talent when you can bring in proven talent? The implication by you and many that the Heat didn't do it "the right way" is ridiculous fan logic.

Finally, the idea that nobody outside Miami likes the Heat is completely ridiculous. I travel regularly and see Wade and James Jerseys all over the country. My thirteen year old neighbor's favorite player is DWade, and I don't live in Florida. Many people love greatness, and many people love the underdog. That's why you see the love and hatred of champs. But make no mistake, Lebron going to Miami created a lot of new Heat fans around the country.

Bottom line, I think your fandom has significantly skewed your perspective.