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Quote from: moomoo on May 29, 2013, 07:52:26 AM
Przemek Karnowski....yes Przemek Karnowski....is predicted to be a late FIRST round pick.

Artem Kimenko is projected to be a mid second round pick.  

Wang Zhelin is also projected to be a mid second rounder.  

In addition, Alec Brown, of the University of Green Bay, in the Horizon League, is projected to be a mid second round pick.

I get it, some muscoopers try to be unbiased, but sometimes they move too far to the other side.  The 2014 Draft is lacking in big men, and if Chris has a strong year, there is a good chance he gets drafted.  Just look at the names on the board right now.


All of those players are legit 7-footers...who are 3-5 years younger than Otule...and don't have a history of knee/foot problems...and have two eyes (not trying to make fun, it would be a real issue for NBA teams).

Otule is one of my all-time favorite MU players and he's a great role model, but his odds of being drafted into the NBA are only slightly better than mine.

moomoo

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on May 29, 2013, 08:08:09 AM
All of those players are legit 7-footers...who are 3-5 years younger than Otule...and don't have a history of knee/foot problems...and have two eyes (not trying to make fun, it would be a real issue for NBA teams).

Otule is one of my all-time favorite MU players and he's a great role model, but his odds of being drafted into the NBA are only slightly better than mine.


"All of those players are legit 7-footers"

Come on, stacheman, they are all basically the same height, with Chris being stronger and heavier.

"don't have a history of knee/foot problems"

Chris was injury free last year, and got stronger and more agile as the year progressed

the others "have two eyes (not trying to make fun, it would be a real issue for NBA teams)"

But all of them have never played as a member of the physically brutal big East.  Chris has proven he can bang and hang with the best of them, so the eye issue could be dismissed.

"Otule is one of my all-time favorite MU players and he's a great role model, but his odds of being drafted into the NBA are only slightly better than mine"

I agree that your mustache alone deserves second round pick consideration.
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martyconlonontherun

I really don't understand what Otule has proven at the Beast level. He is a slightly above average big man that took 5 years to develop. He had a couple great games and that is pretty much it. If he averages 12/12 and 3 blocks a game net year, the. Yes he would be a proven beast player. His averages last year were pretty mediocre and limited.

Also, look at howBlair plummeted when teams started to realize he didn't have acls. This was after dominating the BEast. Or how Lacy fell because of fused toe he played on all year at Alabama. Teams don't like taking injury risks and Otule has 2 giant red flags waving at teams.

MerrittsMustache

Quote from: moomoo on May 29, 2013, 08:26:46 AM
"All of those players are legit 7-footers"

Come on, stacheman, they are all basically the same height, with Chris being stronger and heavier.

"don't have a history of knee/foot problems"

Chris was injury free last year, and got stronger and more agile as the year progressed

the others "have two eyes (not trying to make fun, it would be a real issue for NBA teams)"

But all of them have never played as a member of the physically brutal big East.  Chris has proven he can bang and hang with the best of them, so the eye issue could be dismissed.

"Otule is one of my all-time favorite MU players and he's a great role model, but his odds of being drafted into the NBA are only slightly better than mine"

I agree that your mustache alone deserves second round pick consideration.

Saying that 6'10" and 7'1" are "basically the same height" is like saying that 6'3" and 6'6" are basically the same height.

The injury history is still there.

The eye issue will ALWAYS be a concern for NBA teams.

This isn't even taking into account Otule's lack of NBA athleticism and quickness. Greg Steimsa played in the NBA so it's not completely asinine to say that Otule could get a shot, but I just can't imagine any circumstances under which he gets drafted.

GGGG

Steimsma is much more athletic than Otule ever was.  Once the D-league de-Boed him, he was able to use that athleticism.  He was ranked #38 RSCI for the class of 2004.

nyg

Moomoo man, I thought you took the blue/gold goggles off for good.  Ain't going to happen, ever. 

moomoo

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on May 29, 2013, 08:46:50 AM
Saying that 6'10" and 7'1" are "basically the same height" is like saying that 6'3" and 6'6" are basically the same height.

The injury history is still there.

The eye issue will ALWAYS be a concern for NBA teams.

This isn't even taking into account Otule's lack of NBA athleticism and quickness. Greg Steimsa played in the NBA so it's not completely asinine to say that Otule could get a shot, but I just can't imagine any circumstances under which he gets drafted.


Stache, you are correct on the injury issue.  You are wrong on the size, on a number of fronts too.  You can't compare guards' heights because any delta is off of a smaller base, which means the percentage difference is greater in guards.  Secondly, you seem to have subtracted an inch from Chris an added an inch on one of the others.  No fair....lol.

6-11 275lbs
7-1 220
7-1 220
7-0 250

I repeat....basically the same size for center purposes.


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moomoo

Quote from: nyg on May 29, 2013, 09:15:49 AM
Moomoo man, I thought you took the blue/gold goggles off for good.  Ain't going to happen, ever. 

whats up nyg.  I took them off....I wear blue/gold contacts now.
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nyg

Your new contacts are foggy, but I'll give you credit, you stick to your guns.  I set a reminder in my calendar for this time next year.  Like Bart Scott said "Can't Wait". 

martyconlonontherun

Do you think Otule with average something like 14/12 next year or do you think he will be drafted off of 8/8 stats?

moomoo

Quote from: martyconlonontherun on May 29, 2013, 09:32:22 AM
Do you think Otule with average something like 14/12 next year or do you think he will be drafted off of 8/8 stats?

runningMC, depends on time played, but my blurred contacts envision a 10/10 season, while playing 24 minutes a game.
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Quote from: moomoo on May 29, 2013, 07:52:26 AM
Przemek Karnowski....yes Przemek Karnowski....is predicted to be a late FIRST round pick.

Artem Kimenko is projected to be a mid second round pick. 

Wang Zhelin is also projected to be a mid second rounder. 

In addition, Alec Brown, of the University of Green Bay, in the Horizon League, is projected to be a mid second round pick.

I get it, some muscoopers try to be unbiased, but sometimes they move too far to the other side.  The 2014 Draft is lacking in big men, and if Chris has a strong year, there is a good chance he gets drafted.  Just look at the names on the board right now.




It's great that you are an expert on European players.

I'm guessing that back in the 90s, you would have written:

Dirk Nowitzki ... yes Dirk Nowitzki ... is predicted to be a first-round pick.

Toni Kukoc is projected to be a second-round pick.

If Greg Clausen has a strong year, there is a good chance he gets drafted. Just look at the names on the board right now.
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willie warrior

Quote from: moomoo on May 29, 2013, 09:40:36 AM
runningMC, depends on time played, but my blurred contacts envision a 10/10 season, while playing 24 minutes a game.

If we get 8/8 out of Otule, that would be amazing!! However, it won't be enough to get drafted by anybody but the Heat, who are salivating over Otule.
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brandx

Some guy ?? compares Otule to one of the top 5 centers in the NBA and we all go on for 5 pages of this. I can't even believe I am posting again.

But I can't wait for the next thread that he starts!! I think it's called 'living in the bubble" (if I can steal a line from Bill Mahre).

moomoo

Quote from: brandx on May 29, 2013, 08:05:36 PM
Some guy ?? compares Otule to one of the top 5 centers in the NBA and we all go on for 5 pages of this. I can't even believe I am posting again.

But I can't wait for the next thread that he starts!! I think it's called 'living in the bubble" (if I can steal a line from Bill Mahre).

BrandyX....chill. As in real chill...i. All topics and posts are somewhat juvenile when you think about it. That's what makes the back and forth fun. If you hate the banter, why read or post?  Just move on, because at the end of the day, this topic is more interesting than threads on Louie Vuitton handbags.
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