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GooooMarquette

Is this the same company that put the Michigan "M" on Marquette's 2003 Final Four caps?

Dawson Rental

Getting back to the original question of the thread title, inflammatory seems to be too strong of a word, but I admit that it seems in poor taste or poorly researched.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

Quote from: muguru
No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

dgies9156

Quote from: warriorchick on April 11, 2013, 08:51:46 AM
I know this will seem blasphemous to some of you, but while I fully honor, celebrate and respect our '77 championship, I do think that there is such a thing as dwelling on it too much. Our championship was 36 years ago. 
I think doing a reproduction a vintage championship tee that was actually sold in 1977 would be really cool, and I would buy one.
I, for one, am saving space in my closet for the T-shirt that says "Marquette National Champs 201_".
Amen, a woman who speaks sense!

First, we were Warriors in 1977 and the logo commerating our championship was distinctive. The most predominant part of the logo was the number "1". I gave one to my best friend in Nashville, who promptly wore it to North Carolina. A truer friend one could not find after that!

That said, WC, you're right. It's time to move on. Let's honor the past, but not overdo it. I may be speaking herasy, but maybe it's time to think the same about Al.

And yes, I have a space in my closet for the 2013-2014 National Championship shirt, too!


WI inferiority Complexes

Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 11, 2013, 09:17:08 AM
How about the '69 Cubs? Not only did they not win it, they choked it away in spectacular fashion. Three members of that team have statues outside the stadium and four (Banks, Williams, Jenkins, Santo) have their numbers retired. It's absurd.

Those four players are also all in the Hall of Fame, meaning their accomplishments go well beyond a single season.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on April 12, 2013, 06:59:43 AM
Reggie Jackson's number is not retired by the Angels.



Good catch, I thought we had.  Instead they have the 500th HR of his career marked out there.  We're still at 6 numbers at this point.

PuertoRicanNightmare

Quote from: WI_inferiority_complexes on April 12, 2013, 01:18:20 PM
Those four players are also all in the Hall of Fame, meaning their accomplishments go well beyond a single season.
So are Andre Dawson, Cap Anson, Gabby Harnett, Hack Wilsom, Tinker, Evers and Chance...where are their statues?

There is no bigger Cub fan than me, but the attention and adoration given to losers is nauseating. Look no further than Kerry Wood...a total and complete disappointment, if not an absolute failure. Yet he's held up as some preeminent "Cub?" Why? He was a loser!!

GooooMarquette

Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 12, 2013, 01:38:42 PM
There is no bigger Cub fan than me, but the attention and adoration given to losers is nauseating. Look no further than Kerry Wood...a total and complete disappointment, if not an absolute failure. Yet he's held up as some preeminent "Cub?" Why? He was a loser!!

Asked and answered in five words.  I like brevity.


WI inferiority Complexes

Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 12, 2013, 01:38:42 PM
So are Andre Dawson, Cap Anson, Gabby Harnett, Hack Wilsom, Tinker, Evers and Chance...where are their statues?

There is no bigger Cub fan than me, but the attention and adoration given to losers is nauseating. Look no further than Kerry Wood...a total and complete disappointment, if not an absolute failure. Yet he's held up as some preeminent "Cub?" Why? He was a loser!!

Adoration of non-winners is not unique to the Cubs.  The '82 Brewers lost the World Series and are honored every chance they get.  US Cellular has statues of Carlton Fisk and Harold Baines.  Willie Mays never won in San Francisco and Ken Griffey Jr. never won in Seattle (or anywhere else).  The Padres lost the only two times they've been in the World Series, and they all seem to like Tony Gwynn.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: WI_inferiority_complexes on April 12, 2013, 01:18:20 PM
Those four players are also all in the Hall of Fame, meaning their accomplishments go well beyond a single season.

Those guys were together on the Cubs for a long time, and the BEST the Cubs did in their era was to finish 8 or 9 games behind the Mets in '69. One of the reasons it took Santo so long to make the Hall was that voter's didn't think a team with such a record of futility deserved 4 in Cooperstown.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: WI_inferiority_complexes on April 12, 2013, 07:59:20 PM
Adoration of non-winners is not unique to the Cubs.  The '82 Brewers lost the World Series and are honored every chance they get.  US Cellular has statues of Carlton Fisk and Harold Baines.  Willie Mays never won in San Francisco and Ken Griffey Jr. never won in Seattle (or anywhere else).  The Padres lost the only two times they've been in the World Series, and they all seem to like Tony Gwynn.

Please. 44 years Cub fans are still celebrating a team that blew a huge lead and finished nearly double digits out of first place. That's unique.

dgies9156

Quote from: Lennys Tap on April 12, 2013, 08:24:53 PM
Please. 44 years Cub fans are still celebrating a team that blew a huge lead and finished nearly double digits out of first place. That's unique.

St. Louis Cardinals fan gere. Basic theory in life: We play baseball the old fashioned way -- WE WIN!!!

Same with Marquette. We celebrate winning, not mediocrity

Aughnanure

Quote from: dgies9156 on April 12, 2013, 11:53:20 PM
St. Louis Cardinals fan gere. Basic theory in life: We play baseball the old fashioned way -- WE WIN!!!

Same with Marquette. We celebrate winning, not mediocrity

Not to be a dick, but you have a crappy fan mentality.
“All men dream; but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act out their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible.” - T.E. Lawrence

dgies9156

Quote from: Aughnanure on April 12, 2013, 11:55:22 PM
Not to be a dick, but you have a crappy fan mentality.

I beg your pardon! My fan mentality is simple. I know we are going to have off years, be it the Cardinals or Marquette (or the Packers for that matter). Recruiting or farm teams don't pan out from time to time and, sometimes, things just do not come together. That's life. You hate bad seasons but you know from time to time they will happen. At least Marquette had the good sense to cut its losses with Bob Dukiet and Mike Deane.

But I loathe the Cub fans who allow their team to take advantage of them year in and year out by putting a crappy product on the field and yet they show up 3 million strong.

105 years since a World Championship and 68 years since an NL Championship? Baah. That's incompetence! Even the Miami Marlins have been World Champions TWICE in that time. No human being alive today has seen a contemporary World Champion Chicago Cubs banner fly over Wrigley Field. The teams celebrates being loveable losers. Do that in St. Louis and you won't have 500,000 people a year at the park.

Honor our past, including 1977 (when I was a junior), Al and even 2003. But to Warriorchick's point, let's keep moving! If we get too hung up in the past, we won't focus on the present. Marquette doesn't need to be the college basketball version of the Cubs, nor do I want our legacy to be grainy color footage of something that happened when I was a kid. Or a bunch of ballplayers dressed in 1970s era formal wear (yuck) around an old car.


KenoshaWarrior

Quote from: dgies9156 on April 14, 2013, 08:40:27 AM
But I loathe the Cub fans who allow their team to take advantage of them year in and year out by putting a crappy product on the field and yet they show up 3 million strong.

I feel you man.   The red sox did this as well for years.  They marketed stuff like curses and their "charming" ball park and fans kept pouring in.   In the end baseball is a business and the owners are in it to make money.  If a team is losing yet still getting 3 million people a year their is no motivation to make your team a winner because the owners are happy making money.   


Spaniel with a Short Tail

Quote from: Benny B on April 11, 2013, 11:43:52 AM
My wife didn't even know who the North Stars were until after we were married, so she has no right to give me crap when I wear my 1991 Stanley Cup Finals t-shirt.  Though she does give me crap as to my method of storage (on a separate shelf in the closet away from all the other t-shirts) and my insistence that it only be washed on the gentle cycle or by hand and laid flat to dry.

Doesn't she do this for all your clothes!?!  ;D

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