Final rankings

[ChicosBailBonds]

MU 11th...fantastic year

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/rankings

[JakeBarnes]

Still not completely sure how we are ranked behind Miami in this one after the tourney game, but hey, #11 is a good end.

[brewcity77]

Two qualms...Wichita State finished great but their body of work doesn't warrant 4th...should be in the 6-8 range, and we should be ahead of Miami. I was never much impressed by their record in a weak ACC and they were exposed as pretenders in the Sweet 16.

[Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown]

Still not completely sure how we are ranked behind Miami in this one after the tourney game, but hey, #11 is a good end.

we just got lucky against them

[ChicosBailBonds]

we just got lucky against them

I thought we pounded the piss out of them.  We got lucky against Davidson


The AP poll does it right, they stop at the end of the season because they know the NCAA tournament is a crap shoot.

[mu_hilltopper]

Two qualms...Wichita State finished great but their body of work doesn't warrant 4th...should be in the 6-8 range, and we should be ahead of Miami. I was never much impressed by their record in a weak ACC and they were exposed as pretenders in the Sweet 16.

100% agree.

[JakeBarnes]

I thought we pounded the piss out of them.  We got lucky against Davidson


The AP poll does it right, they stop at the end of the season because they know the NCAA tournament is a crap shoot.

This. 

[SERocks]

FGCU is ahead of Butler?  Yeah, right.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Two qualms...Wichita State finished great but their body of work doesn't warrant 4th...should be in the 6-8 range, and we should be ahead of Miami. I was never much impressed by their record in a weak ACC and they were exposed as pretenders in the Sweet 16.

Aren't you arguing exact opposites in two different sentences here?   


Miami did it over the long haul but had one bad game against MU, thus they should be penalized?   Yet Wichita State had a pretty good year, but because they had a great 4 games they should be top 10?

I just don't see how one game exposes anyone as a pretender...it means they had a bad game, that's all it means.

Maybe the voters saw us play against Davidson and slid us down a bit.

[brewcity77]

I felt that way about Miami the whole year. At no point to the season did I consider them legitimate top-five team, just my opinion but I definitely don't see them being worthy of being ahead of us.

EDIT: I see Miami the same way I see Gonzaga. Two teams that got over ranked because of attrition, not because they actually deserved to be there. The ACC was not good this year. They won a conference that had one other team in it.

[klyrish]

They won a conference that had one other team in it.

Wake Forest?

[MUFlutieEffect]

Aren't you arguing exact opposites in two different sentences here?   


Miami did it over the long haul but had one bad game against MU, thus they should be penalized?   Yet Wichita State had a pretty good year, but because they had a great 4 games they should be top 10?

I just don't see how one game exposes anyone as a pretender...it means they had a bad game, that's all it means.

Maybe the voters saw us play against Davidson and slid us down a bit.

While my initial reaction was to be frustrated with Miami's out-ranking of MU, common sense prevails.  Chicos is spot on: you have to consider the entire "body of work" above the crapshoot, single-elimination tournament that is March Madness.

[forgetful]

While my initial reaction was to be frustrated with Miami's out-ranking of MU, common sense prevails.  Chicos is spot on: you have to consider the entire "body of work" above the crapshoot, single-elimination tournament that is March Madness.

I disagree.  I think our body of work is equal to Miami and we outplayed them when it matters.  Advantage us.  Also, if we consider the body of work, FGCU isn't ranked, Georgetown is several spots higher Gonzaga should be higher.  And Wichita St. and Syracuse considerably lower.

Overall though as chico's rightfully comments, this final ranking is all for show and doesn't really matter.  A way for them to get a few more page hits after the season is over.

[Eldon]

#11 is pretty good.  Banner?

[AZWarrior]

Definitely something to be proud of.

And it should help with recruiting.......   

[Lennys Tap]

I thought we pounded the piss out of them.  We got lucky against Davidson


The AP poll does it right, they stop at the end of the season because they know the NCAA tournament is a crap shoot.

Respectfully disagree. The tournament games are the most important of the season - and the fairest measuring stick. No trap games, home court, short rest, etc. Not counting the biggest games in the final ranking seems silly.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

Two qualms...Wichita State finished great but their body of work doesn't warrant 4th...should be in the 6-8 range, and we should be ahead of Miami. I was never much impressed by their record in a weak ACC and they were exposed as pretenders in the Sweet 16.

We pounded Miami when it counts in the NCAA and were regular season Big East Champs which is also the conference that sent 3 to the elite 8 and two to the Final 4 and won the national championship.  That's why you rank Marquette over Miami.  I can see some rational for teams 1 through 9.

[keefe]

How is IU ranked ahead of Marquette? IU was humiliated in the Tournament; they should be in the 15-20 range.

[real chili 83]

Too funny.....

Weber State 1 vote
Belmont 1 vote
Minnesota 1 vote

Notre Dame 1 vote

[UticaBusBarn]

Where was Davidson, the team the press so loved, ranked? You know, the team the press (and a number of coach "experts") considered to be superior to the Warriors and destined to be the "up-set" kings of the tournament.

[MU82]

Where was Davidson, the team the press so loved, ranked? You know, the team the press (and a number of coach "experts") considered to be superior to the Warriors and destined to be the "up-set" kings of the tournament.

You're right. Anybody who thought Davidson had even a prayer of upsetting Marquette ... what were they smoking?!?!?!

[Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown]

Respectfully disagree. The tournament games are the most important of the season - and the fairest measuring stick. No trap games, home court, short rest, etc. Not counting the biggest games in the final ranking seems silly.

Exactly... isn't the whole point of the tournament to determine who is the best team? If not then why bother?

[jesmu84]

Exactly... isn't the whole point of the tournament to determine who is the best team? If not then why bother?

I'm sure Chico's will be along shortly to tell you it's all about match-ups and luck and how the best team doesn't always win. And then remind you which experts also agree with his viewpoint.

[Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown]

I'm sure Chico's will be along shortly to tell you it's all about match-ups and luck and how the best team doesn't always win. And then remind you which experts also agree with his viewpoint.

I'm sure whichever team he decides was the best this year will scramble to hang the "Chicos Opinion Champ" banner in their gym

[Lennys Tap]

I'm sure Chico's will be along shortly to tell you it's all about match-ups and luck and how the best team doesn't always win. And then remind you which experts also agree with his viewpoint.

And that games played in November and December are part of a team's "body of work" and relevant to their final ranking, but those played in late March, that teams point to all season and try to peak for, aren't.