ESPN's Early Outlook 2013-2014

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

Physically, McGary is a Dave Cowens clone. Don't know about his head, however.

[Ellenson Guerrero]

http://aol.sportingnews.com/ncaa-basketball/story/2013-04-09/ncaa-basketball-top-25-rankings-2013-14-kentucky-michigan-st-arizona-louisville/slide/11

Having Becky higher than MU is just insanity. Somewhere in the 8-10 range seems about right for MU at this point.

[brandx]

Physically, McGary is a Dave Cowens clone. Don't know about his head, however.

I disagree. Cowens was a much better athlete - not to mention sa better shooter, passr, ans rebounder,

[AZWarrior]

  It would be entertaining to have the Wonderlic test for the NBA draft.

Agreed!

[Pakuni]

He had to repeat his entire junior year of high school.  It would be entertaining to have the Wonderlic test for the NBA draft.

So we can feel superior to future millionaires?

[ChicosBailBonds]

So we can feel superior to future millionaires?

Future millionaires who blow it all and end up in the poor house.


It's America...

[Pakuni]

Future millionaires who blow it all and end up in the poor house.


It's America...

Yes, that way you can feel superior twice.
Jealousy is such an ugly emotion.

[Lennys Tap]

He had to repeat his entire junior year of high school.  It would be entertaining to have the Wonderlic test for the NBA draft.

That would really be great. You could feel superior to and make fun of kids like McGary with learning disabilities.

Regarding our wager on whether he goes in the top 14 if he comes out - Name any number you're comfortable with.

[forgetful]

That would really be great. You could feel superior to and make fun of kids like McGary with learning disabilities.

Regarding our wager on whether he goes in the top 14 if he comes out - Name any number you're comfortable with.

Although I'm sensitive to this statement, you have to realize that many students (in some cases most students) are diagnosed with learning disabilities nowadays.  ADD is a learning disability, difficulty taking notes is a learning disability.  Frankly if he is ADD, so is about 90% of americans.

[Pakuni]

Although I'm sensitive to this statement, you have to realize that many students (in some cases most students) are diagnosed with learning disabilities nowadays.  ADD is a learning disability, difficulty taking notes is a learning disability.  Frankly if he is ADD, so is about 90% of americans.

ADD (or ADHD) is not considered a learning disability.
In fact, many people with ADD/ADHD are quite intelligent.
And, in actuality, the large, large majority of students nowadays are not diagnosed with learning disabilities.

But yeah, these kids today and their learning disabilities ....

[JakeBarnes]

Just to put it out there because it is annoying the piss outta me reading through this thread: the phrase "rising junior" means he is rising from sophomore to junior. Goodman isnt trying to say Mayo is talented or on the rise...simply that he will be a junior next year, but is currently a soph.

Now you know, and knowing is half the battle.

[forgetful]

ADD (or ADHD) is not considered a learning disability.
In fact, many people with ADD/ADHD are quite intelligent.
And, in actuality, the large, large majority of students nowadays are not diagnosed with learning disabilities.

But yeah, these kids today and their learning disabilities ....

ADD is not considered a learning disability, but since it fits under the american disability act, most students that have ADD refer to themselves as having a learning disability.  This is what McGary was discussing in the media, so he may be referring to ADD even though it is technically not defined as a learning disability.  I use the broad statement of learning disabilities to include "other health impaired" as it relates to educational processes.  In fact many students qualify under the "other health impaired".  

If McGary is referring to these "other health impaired", then I give him no sympathy because as you note, these people are typically quite intelligent.  

Importantly, you suggest that intelligence is contradictory to learning disabilities.  This would be patently false.  Many to most students that suffer from learning disabilities like dyslexia are quite intelligent some bordering on genius.

[ATL MU Warrior]

That would really be great. You could feel superior to and make fun of kids like McGary with learning disabilities.

Regarding our wager on whether he goes in the top 14 if he comes out - Name any number you're comfortable with.

Is "would rather play ball than read a book" a learning disability?

[forgetful]

Just for the record, McGary's learning disability according to his own words is ADHD.

[MU82]

I disagree. Cowens was a much better athlete - not to mention sa better shooter, passr, ans rebounder,

In addition to all of that, Cowens would have made several 3's per game. Far superior to McGary in every way.

They do share a certain Caucasianess, however.

[Pakuni]

ADD is not considered a learning disability, but since it fits under the american disability act, most students that have ADD refer to themselves as having a learning disability.  

Simply because you claim "most students that have ADD refer to themselves as having a learning disability*" doesn't mean they actually do have a learning disability or that ADD is a learning disability. They don't and it isn't. You were wrong, just as you were wrong when you said many/most students nowadays are diagnosed LD (the real number is about 13 percent, and that's held steady since the late 90s).

* citation needed

Importantly, you suggest that intelligence is contradictory to learning disabilities.  This would be patently false.  Many to most students that suffer from learning disabilities like dyslexia are quite intelligent some bordering on genius.

No, I made no suggestion anywhere close to that. I said students with ADHD/ADD can be quite intelligent and, as we both know, ADHD/ADD are not learning disabilities. I made no comment on the intelligence of LD students.

[Benny B]

I had gastroenteritis last week... my health was impaired... does that mean I now have a learning disability?

ADD is not considered a learning disability, but since it fits under the american disability act, most students that have ADD refer to themselves as having a learning disability.  This is what McGary was discussing in the media, so he may be referring to ADD even though it is technically not defined as a learning disability.  I use the broad statement of learning disabilities to include "other health impaired" as it relates to educational processes.  In fact many students qualify under the "other health impaired".  

Please do not do this.  You are not the chairman of the AMA.