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netty24

Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 07, 2013, 03:10:23 PM
Peyton Siva is an atrocious three point shooter and the Cardinals seem OK at the point. You guys are nuts about Derrick Wilson. He will start and he will be an upgrade.

One of the best PGs in MU history, Tony Miller, was a terrible shooter. So was James for that matter. Wilson didnt shoot because he was told not to, just as Butler was told not to as a sophomore. Incidentally, IMO Junior was our worst late game FT shooter, although I have no stats to back that up.

Yes, siva is a terrible shooter, but what he does bring to the table is that he does an awesome job and penetrating and dishing. I don't recall derrick doing that many times. He just isnt quick enough to penetrate consistently and his bowling-ball frame will lead to a lot of charges being drawn. I just don't see how Derrick improves enough to deserve to be the starting pg next year. Absolutely love his defense, but that isnt enough at this level.

HoopsMalone

What a ridiculous class Coach Cal has coming to UK next year.

Sunbelt15

Quote from: nyg on April 07, 2013, 03:06:14 PM
Every shot needs improvement for Derrick Wilson.  Against Syracuse and their zone, Cuse was just letting him stand there saying" go ahead, take it" and he didn't.

For the year he shot: 

Field Goal %      27%
Three Point %    14%
Free Throw %    45%

In 35 games, he had a total of 40 points.  Sorry, but these stats are terrible and he has been here two years to work on it.  Don't see it improving offensively for the fella. 

Wow!!!!!! Enough said!!

brandx

The PG doesn't need to score a lot - he just needs the ability to score so that the defense has to play him honest.

PuertoRicanNightmare

You can't look at a stat like "14 percent three point shooting" and draw conclusions. He took 7 three pointers. He made one. Knowing he probably had a red light, you need to factor many shots were desperation type, shot clock violation shots. I'm not saying he's gonna be Steve Novak, but to suggest his percentages from this year mean anything is just inaccurate.

I'll tell you another guy who this applies to...Steve Taylor. This kid can shoot. Yet he only made 25 percent of his three pointers. Does that percentage mean he's a horrible shooter? Of course not. Again, not saying he's going to win any contests, but he can shoot.

Bottom line is, I think we are going to be really, really good next year and I honestly believe it'll be the best team we've had since 03...although I happen to think the 02 team was better!

Wade for President

Agree with many of the previous comments.  We aren't in any preseason Top 10 lists without that Elite 8 run.  This year's tourney play will pay dividends next year in more ways than one.

Ellenson Guerrero

I think No. 5 is quite generous. We will definitely be preseason top-25 and I would guess in the 10-12 range, but the top 5 is typically reserved for the bluebloods and teams with lottery pick players. I wouldn't be surprised if we were in the top 5 by mid-season however. We'll have a very experienced, deep, and athletic squad; take care of business outside of conference and take the poll position in the new BE and we should be getting some serious love.
"What we take for-granted, others pray for..." - Brent Williams 3/30/14

MUFlutieEffect

Not a big deal by any means, but interesting that they spent time detailing the starting five and "key reserves" for the top four teams, and stopped for MU at #5. 

As some have noted, it would be interesting to see the effect on such rankings if Otule returns.
The Flutie Effect: "A significant and positive correlation between a university having a successful team and higher quality of incoming freshmen, alumni donations, and graduation rates."

- The Economist, January 3rd, 2007

avid1010

Quote from: PuertoRicanNightmare on April 07, 2013, 03:10:23 PM
Peyton Siva is an atrocious three point shooter and the Cardinals seem OK at the point. You guys are nuts about Derrick Wilson. He will start and he will be an upgrade.

One of the best PGs in MU history, Tony Miller, was a terrible shooter. So was James for that matter. Wilson didnt shoot because he was told not to, just as Butler was told not to as a sophomore. Incidentally, IMO Junior was our worst late game FT shooter, although I have no stats to back that up.
usually agree with you, but couldn't disagree more on this one.  siva is a better comparison to tony miller and dj than d. wilson.  we all watched what the louisville guards did to mu this year. 

stats don't tell the whole story, which brings in the "eye test," and just by watching taylor shoot the ball in comparison to d. wilson is another bad comparison, imo.  from watching d. wilson and taylor play in multiple settings, i would say taylor will be a solid shooter in 1-2 years, while d. wilson will never shoot it better than junior. 

we watched mu get out played at the pg position this year, and i don't see how d. wilson can have a higher ceiling than where junior currently is.  not that mu can't be good with an average pg (they were this year)...it's still going to be an area of weakness for mu. 

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