Vander to the NBA draft

[Eldon]

Decades in advance, this GI JOE PSA amazingly foretold our sentiments to this event

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phFgCLguSNI

[thehammock]

Woeffel talked to jamil yesterday...if jamil gets positive feedback from NBA people...he will leave also.

[TheDOC816]

What does a Top 10 team have to do with anything?  He's not a fan.  He's making a life choice.  I would never expect a kid to evaluate his decision based on the team's possibilities.  That's selfish on our part.  Vander's busted his tail for 3 years, what does he owe us?  Good Luck Vander...prove 'em wrong.

What about the Florida guys who looked what could be for the next year and came back?

[Groin_pull]

A shooting guard who can't shoot. Not sure too many NBA teams are lining up for that. Hope he's ready to spend some serious time in the D League.

[MUfan12]

Well there goes our FF run.

Disagree. He's easier to replace than Jae and DJ were. He had a great run in February and March, but those guys were simply better players.

Whole lotta talent coming in. They'll be able to replace his scoring fairly easily.

[NavinRJohnson]

I just love all you guys talking about how comb this is, and how much smarter it would be for him to come back for his Senior season. That is so easy for all of you to say, because you want MU to be good. Maybe he doesn't want to go to college anymore. Maybe he's sick of playing for free. The guy can go make a solid living in Europe if the NBA doesn't work out, and he knows it. What's wrong with that, aside from the fact that it makes MU worse, which is what so many of you seem to care about most.

These guys aren't at MU (or anywhere else) to go to school, they're there to play basketball. That's what they care about. He sees his chance to take a step forward and he's taking it.

[4th and State]

What does a Top 10 team have to do with anything?  He's not a fan.  He's making a life choice.  I would never expect a kid to evaluate his decision based on the team's possibilities.  That's selfish on our part.  Vander's busted his tail for 3 years, what does he owe us?  Good Luck Vander...prove 'em wrong.

I really really hope he gets drafted and can stick but he's likely a second round pick at best.  He's taking a pretty big gamble with this move.

[KenoshaWarrior]

Good luck Vander.  The Idaho Stampede awaits your arrival.  

Its your decision and not those of internet forum pundits, but not one mock draft, not one pro scouting service, anything has you as a first rounder this year.  

Hate to see you leave with the potential class of next year, what could have been.

What still will be.  We will reload and by fine.   He wont be playing in Idaho trust me.

[MUCrew]

Exactly. Is next year's class really that scary?

He may have a tougher time getting in with the One-and-Done pool being MUCH better than this year's.  

[Warriors10]

Signing with an agent as well....

[4th and State]

Disagree. He's easier to replace than Jae and DJ were. He had a great run in February and March, but those guys were simply better players.

Whole lotta talent coming in. They'll be able to replace his scoring fairly easily.

I guess I don't have as much faith in freshman as you do.

See Vander's freshman year......

[KenoshaWarrior]

What does a Top 10 team have to do with anything?  He's not a fan.  He's making a life choice.  I would never expect a kid to evaluate his decision based on the team's possibilities.  That's selfish on our part.  Vander's busted his tail for 3 years, what does he owe us?  Good Luck Vander...prove 'em wrong.

Well said Lenz

[The Lens]

What about the Florida guys who looked what could be for the next year and came back?

One was the son of a NBA player, the other of a model and tennis pro.  A lot easier for them to give it the ole college try.

[KenoshaWarrior]

Woeffel talked to jamil yesterday...if jamil gets positive feedback from NBA people...he will leave also.

This would be way more of a disaster

[NavinRJohnson]

What about the Florida guys who looked what could be for the next year and came back?

What about them? Could not be more irrelevant.

[Aughnanure]

I just love all you guys talking about how comb this is, and how much smarter it would be for him to come back for his Senior season. That is so easy for all of you to say, because you want MU to be good. Maybe he doesn't want to go to college anymore. Maybe he's sick of playing for free. The guy can go make a solid living in Europe if the NBA doesn't work out, and he knows it. What's wrong with that, aside from the fact that it makes MU worse, which is what so many of you seem to care about most.

These guys aren't at MU (or anywhere else) to go to school, they're there to play basketball. That's what they care about. He sees his chance to take a step forward and he's taking it.

Euro money will always be there. The argument being made is he has a better NBA chance after another year if growth and being the premier player on a top 10 team.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

This would be way more of a disaster

Agree. If Wilson left it'd be a much bigger blow

[Groin_pull]

I just love all you guys talking about how comb this is, and how much smarter it would be for him to come back for his Senior season. That is so easy for all of you to say, because you want MU to be good. Maybe he doesn't want to go to college anymore. Maybe he's sick of playing for free. The guy can go make a solid living in Europe if the NBA doesn't work out, and he knows it. What's wrong with that, aside from the fact that it makes MU worse, which is what so many of you seem to care about most.

These guys aren't at MU (or anywhere else) to go to school, they're there to play basketball. That's what they care about. He sees his chance to take a step forward and he's taking it.

Huh??? He's a shooting guard who can't shoot. That's the reality.

[TheDOC816]

What about them? Could not be more irrelevant.

I was referencing the fact that they looked at what Florida's chances would be for the next year and decided to come back.  I said that in response to The Lens saying "What does a Top 10 team have to do with anything?  He's not a fan.  He's making a life choice.  I would never expect a kid to evaluate his decision based on the team's possibilities."

[NavinRJohnson]

Euro money will always be there. The argument being made is he has a better NBA chance after another year if growth and being the premier player on a top 10 team.

That's great. Again, extremely easy for you to say.

[Silkk the Shaka]

You're making a big mistake Victor Pulak.... a big mistake.

I echo people who said they are more worried about what it means for Vander's career than our team next year.  I really hope this doesn't backfire on him.  If he makes a team and sticks, it's good for both him and MU in the long run.

[Aughnanure]

That's great. Again, extremely easy for you to say.

I get it. But seriously, stop acting like he's a pauper.

[Skatastrophy]

Best of luck to Vander!  What an exciting time in his life!

[brewcity77]

Been busy with other stuff the last 12 hours so I completely missed this. Wow. I think Vander will end up being a late-first to early-second round NBA pick. He'll make a team and stick. I know many are still down on his chances because of his first two years but those people aren't realizing that when your needle is trending this high up further improvement is to be expected, and that is what some NBA GM will bank on.

Many thought Vander wouldn't get a lot of time early, but his defense got him on the court. People said he couldn't finish at the rim, but he became one of the best in the conference at it this year. People still say he can't shoot, but he's very accurate inside the arc and has improved his 3P% every year.

Best of luck to Vander, I do feel we just went from a title contender and top-5 team to somewhere in the 12-15 range. Really gut-punched by this, but I can't begrudge him because I'm sure he's just trying to make the best decision for himself. That he chose to declare tells me Marquette got positive feedback from NBA scouts and GMs in regards to Vander's stock. You still my boy, Blue.

[MUfan12]

I guess I don't have as much faith in freshman as you do.

See Vander's freshman year......

That's the beauty of it. None of them will have to be "the guy" right away. Taylor's production will increase. Would think Jamil's numbers will go up as well. JJJ and Duane won't have to carry the scoring load. Takes a lot of pressure off them.