4 seed is gone

[wardle2wade]

If we only win a game because we were a four seed versus a five seed, where we really that good in the first place?

Marquette's a 4 seed.  Book it.  Wayyyyy too much stock given to these tourneys.

[nyg]

Don't know about the 4 seed anymore after yesterdays' games.  Here my take:

#3 Florida
     New Mexico
     Michigan
     Michigan State

#4 Wisconsin
     Cuse
     Kansas St
     St. Louis

MU should be a high #5

[boblawblog]

Kenosha i hope you are a little tipsy because you are seriously overreacting. going into champ week MU was the last 3 first 4. the only move we may have made is down to the second 4 seed.

[mu_hilltopper]

Still a 4 seed.  I think we went down a slot 48 hours ago .. now we went back up a slot. 

http://www.crashingthedance.com/seed.php

Rooting for SLU over VCU .. Ohio St. over Wisc .. Miami over NCState.   

[NavinRJohnson]

Still a 4 seed.  I think we went down a slot 48 hours ago .. now we went back up a slot. 

http://www.crashingthedance.com/seed.php

Rooting for SLU over VCU .. Ohio St. over Wisc .. Miami over NCState.   

These games aren't going to matter at all. Unless there were 1 seed on the line or something like that, it might be different, but even thats a stretch, especially where OSU-UW are concerned, those teams will be slotted into their seeds/sites before that game even starts.

[jsglow]

These games aren't going to matter at all. Unless there were 1 seed on the line or something like that, it might be different, but even thats a stretch, especially where OSU-UW are concerned, those teams will be slotted into their seeds/sites before that game even starts.

I think that's probably correct.  If they are close enough on the S-curve a WI win might result in a flip flop but there's no way that the committee can rewrite the brackets on Sunday afternoon.  Bucky earned its promotion of the curve yesterday rising from the 6 line before the tourney started.  Congrats, they've had a great week.

[JTBMU7]

I keep seeing MU as a 4 with the 5 seed being SLU... Dear god please do not let that happen.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

I would take our record (and RPI) vs Bucky's.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/bracketology/team-comparison/MARQET/WISC

whether we like it or not, RPI is an important factor in seeding. 

Looking at the comparison, I would argue we should be seeded higher than Wisconson-Madison.

I think Becky only passes us with a win today. Our resume is better in all regards.

[JamilJaeJamailJrJuan]

I keep seeing MU as a 4 with the 5 seed being SLU... Dear god please do not let that happen.

Cmon now, in order to advance in the NCAA tournament, ya know, ya need to win games. SLU is beatable.

I am obviously hoping for good matchups too, but my main concern is ending up in the Gonzaga or Kansas region assuming we get a 4 or 5 seed.  And preferably avoid Duke as the 2 ( I think they still have a good shot at a 1).

[slack00]

I think Becky only passes us with a win today. Our resume is better in all regards.

The committee will have the bracket done before that game even starts.

The committee also said they weren't going to value conference tournaments any more than the regular season.  Because of this, I think a lot of people here are overvaluing Wisconsin, St Louis, Kansas St and Syracuse.

[Hards Alumni]

The committee will have the bracket done before that game even starts.

The committee also said they weren't going to value conference tournaments any more than the regular season.  Because of this, I think a lot of people here are overvaluing Wisconsin, St Louis, Kansas St and Syracuse.

+1  I think a lot of people don't remember that this is the case EVERY year.  If UW moved up to a 4 seed, we weren't bumped down.  They bumped Michigan down from a 3, and another team went up to a 3. I don't see how some people are putting Syracuse on the 3 line.  Their conference record is 11-7 and their RPI is 13.  Though I don't know who should take their place.  The 3, 4, and 5 lines are the most difficult to figure out every year.  They cause a lot of headaches, and are the difference between teams playing close to home or across the country.   Hopefully, we don't get jobbed like we do every year and can manage a game that isn't 1500 miles away.

[We R Final Four]

Don't know about the 4 seed anymore after yesterdays' games.  Here my take:

#3 Florida
    New Mexico
    Michigan
    Michigan State

#4 Wisconsin
    Cuse
    Kansas St
    St. Louis

MU should be a high #5

We finished tied for 1st in the Beast. Cuse finished tied for 5th. We beat them head to head. Cuz they made the BET final you think that they will jump us? Can't see that happening.

[Hards Alumni]

We finished tied for 1st in the Beast. Cuse finished tied for 5th. We beat them head to head. Cuz they made the BET final toy think that they win jump us? Can't see that happening.

The problem with his 3 and 4 see lines is that he doesn't mention who the 8 teams on the 1 and 2 line are.

[IL Warrior]

The problem with his 3 and 4 see lines is that he doesn't mention who the 8 teams on the 1 and 2 line are.

You're kidding, right? It seems pretty obvious to me that they would be Duke, Louisville, Georgetown, Kansas, Ohio State, Indiana, Gonzaga, and Miami. Unless you think one of those is a 5 or lower... 

We finished tied for 1st in the Beast. Cuse finished tied for 5th. We beat them head to head. Cuz they made the BET final you think that they will jump us? Can't see that happening.

Most of the so-called "bracketologists" have Syracuse ahead of us. Everyone here is putting way too much stock in the head-to-head matchups with UW and Cuse, and dismissing the conference tournament as if it doesn't exist. Cuse didn't beat a couple of nobodys to get to the final. They had to beat Pitt and G'town on a neutral floor. That has to count for something. It doesn't mean we can't get a 4, but if we do, it won't be at the expense of Syracuse.

[Hards Alumni]

You're kidding, right? It seems pretty obvious to me that they would be Duke, Louisville, Georgetown, Kansas, Ohio State, Indiana, Gonzaga, and Miami. Unless you think one of those is a 5 or lower... 
Most of the so-called "bracketologists" have Syracuse ahead of us. Everyone here is putting way too much stock in the head-to-head matchups with UW and Cuse, and dismissing the conference tournament as if it doesn't exist. Cuse didn't beat a couple of nobodys to get to the final. They had to beat Pitt and G'town on a neutral floor. That has to count for something. It doesn't mean we can't get a 4, but if we do, it won't be at the expense of Syracuse.

Sorry, I guess it was pretty obvious. 

No way SLU, or Cuse jumps us.  we are a 4

[forgetful]

You're kidding, right? It seems pretty obvious to me that they would be Duke, Louisville, Georgetown, Kansas, Ohio State, Indiana, Gonzaga, and Miami. Unless you think one of those is a 5 or lower...  
Most of the so-called "bracketologists" have Syracuse ahead of us. Everyone here is putting way too much stock in the head-to-head matchups with UW and Cuse, and dismissing the conference tournament as if it doesn't exist. Cuse didn't beat a couple of nobodys to get to the final. They had to beat Pitt and G'town on a neutral floor. That has to count for something. It doesn't mean we can't get a 4, but if we do, it won't be at the expense of Syracuse.

This is the problem, the committee says the conference tournaments don't matter as much as most people say they do.  If the committee gives Syracuse a 4 in front of us, they are saying that the conference season doesn't matter.  We beat them by 3 games in the BE and had a share of the title.  They beat Pitt and GU to get to the title.  We beat Pitt twice and GU (1-1).  So what does the conference tournament title add to them being ahead of us.  OH wait they got destroyed in that tournament title, so they don't even have that.

[GGGG]

Conference tournaments don't carry extra weight, but the games themselves still count toward the overall picture that the committee has. 

[brewcity77]

St. Louis most likely won't be ahead of us. Yesterday and today won't change their seed. I find it hard to believe they were ahead of us based on Friday.

[forgetful]

Conference tournaments don't carry extra weight, but the games themselves still count toward the overall picture that the committee has. 

Understood, and looking at overall body of work can you honestly say Syracuse has done more without giving extra weight to the conference tournament?

[Pakuni]

Lunardi's latest has MU, Cuse and St. Louis all with 4 seeds. UW with a 5 seed.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/bracketology

[jesmu84]

http://bracketmatrix.com/

Marquette a concensus 4. The #3 of the 4s.

13s - Bucknell, Davidson, Valpo, NMSt. in order.

[BallBoy]

http://bracketmatrix.com/

Marquette a concensus 4. The #3 of the 4s.

13s - Bucknell, Davidson, Valpo, NMSt. in order.

Cut Kenosha some slack. He called 4th seed lost in favor of a 3. Good job dude.  Do I really need teal for this?

[Tugg Speedman]

This thread was completely wrong ... We got a 3!!!!

... and Kenoshawarrior is also wrong on Stone in his other thread.

[Silkk the Shaka]

We would have been #1 seed overall this yeara had the committee not caught wind of our K State scrimmage from 5 or 6 years back. Had to be on the forefront of their collective minds.

[lab_warrior]

Thanks coach crean for blowing it for MU. Wisconsin to get a 3 seed in the Mt. Horeb pod

DURR.