Some random observations on Notre Dame game

[TJ]

**Davante really hurt us with his two dumb fouls in the first half.  Lost all inside presence after that.

**I have no flippin' clue why Steve Taylor doesn't play more.  None.  

**Too much Mayo, he simply isn't doing anything right now on either side of the floor...and frankly after playing well for the last few games, Lockett just had a stinker.

**Steve Taylor needs to play more.

**Turnovers....way too many turnovers.  Honestly that is going to be how this team loses in the tournament.

**ND just runs pick and rolls over and over and over, and we rarely made adjustments.

Oh well.  Sweet 16 would be a good goal for this team.  #freestevetaylor

Agree on all but one point.  I thought Lockett played decently.  He was all over the offensive glass at least.

[GGGG]

Yep, and? As stated earlier MU was outworked tonight. MU just didn't play very well, and ND did.

+1 million.

[GGGG]

Connaughton was 6-10 from the field with all 6-10 from the perimeter.  And he was guarded on how many of those 10?  It ain't rocket science. 

#FreeSteveTaylor

+2 million.

[Aughnanure]

+1. MU could have put this game away in the first half.

Can we please cease with the 'refs don't effect the outcome of a game' auto response? It's wrong and restricts analysis.

[MerrittsMustache]

No.  I just know basketball and you apparently don't.

Seriously, it was an evenly called game with no serious misses that I recall.  Minor things here and there, but that's about it.

So tired of the "ref" excuse by people here.

Jay Bilas must not know basketball either.

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Can we please cease with the 'refs don't effect the outcome of a game' auto response? It's wrong and restricts analysis.

They effect the game, but they aren't causing a team to lose a game.

[GGGG]

Can we please cease with the 'refs don't effect the outcome of a game' auto response? It's wrong and restricts analysis.

No.  I will not cease with it because it simply wasn't the reason.  At all.

MU was out-played and out-coached.

[NavinRJohnson]

Can we please cease with the 'refs don't effect the outcome of a game' auto response? It's wrong and restricts analysis.

Of course they can affect the outcome. However, rebound the damn ball, and nobody's talking about refs.

[Aughnanure]

No.  I will not cease with it because it simply wasn't the reason.  At all.

MU was out-played and out-coached.

No, you want to claim it had no impact. Which is utter bulls**t.

[CTWarrior]

Can we please cease with the 'refs don't effect the outcome of a game' auto response? It's wrong and restricts analysis.

Refs absolutely effect the outcome of games.  They didn't tonight.  ND could be complaining about 3 of the fouls called on Cooley that were very iffy and limited his minutes.

I think one of the big problems we had was after Gardner and Otule both got 2 fouls we went a long stretch without either of them.  One of the nice things about having two centers is that you can play in the first half even if he has 2 fouls.  We were awful during the long stretch without Otule/Gardner.

[GGGG]

Jay Bilas must not know basketball either.

Jay Bilas has been complaining about the rough play for the last two nights...and I don't disagree with him.  But that is an issue for another time.  As long as they are consistent within a game and don't miss too many calls, refereeing is fair.  And it was fair.

[forgetful]

No.  I just know basketball and you apparently don't.

Seriously, it was an evenly called game with no serious misses that I recall.  Minor things here and there, but that's about it.

So tired of the "ref" excuse by people here.

What about Bilas, does he not know basketball, because he commented a few times about poor officiating.  

What about not calling bumps and holds all game at all and then on one possession calling three on MU on one play, including a TO saving whistle on the baseline.

How about Mayo taking a shoulder to the chest and it being an offensive foul (similar play that save on TO for ND earlier was called on MU).  Or the three forearms to the face from Sherman to Gardner that went uncalled.  

Foul on a screen for Wilson, no call when Juan takes a forearm on a screen.  

I said that the refs didn't lose this game for MU, but to pretend that this game was officiated in a balanced consistent fashion is borderline idiotic.

[GGGG]

No, you want to claim it had no impact. Which is utter bulls**t.

It had no more inordinate outcome than any other game.  It would be like saying the wood the floor was made out of had an impact on the game.  I mean, it did obviously, but it didn't affect the outcome in any way.

[GGGG]

What about Bilas, does he not know basketball, because he commented a few times about poor officiating.  

What about not calling bumps and holds all game at all and then on one possession calling three on MU on one play, including a TO saving whistle on the baseline.

How about Mayo taking a shoulder to the chest and it being an offensive foul (similar play that save on TO for ND earlier was called on MU).  Or the three forearms to the face from Sherman to Gardner that went uncalled.  

Foul on a screen for Wilson, no call when Juan takes a forearm on a screen.  

I said that the refs didn't lose this game for MU, but to pretend that this game was officiated in a balanced consistent fashion is borderline idiotic.

Yeah, and Notre Dame couldn't complain about any calls either.  Seriously, take off your blue and gold glasses for once.

         

[Aughnanure]

Of course they can affect the outcome. However, rebound the damn ball, and nobody's talking about refs.

So we should get every rebound? We won the rebounding battle! Guess you didn't see our guys getting pushed inside every time

[CTWarrior]

I said that the refs didn't lose this game for MU, but to pretend that this game was officiated in a balanced consistent fashion is borderline idiotic.

Do you watch us play?  We hack every guy who passes through the lane.  We are a much more physical defensive team than is ND.  We constantly flail our arms and pretend to be fouled, and tonight we added constant whining to our repertoire.  Refs weren't buying.

[MerrittsMustache]

It had no more inordinate outcome than any other game.  It would be like saying the wood the floor was made out of had an impact on the game.  I mean, it did obviously, but it didn't affect the outcome in any way.

We all know that you reffed some HS games so you consider yourself an expert on officiating and always take the refs' side but come on! What an awful analogy. There were some blatantly terrible calls in this game that went against MU and swung the momentum.

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The Bilas argument is completely different. Bilas wants the BE called cleaner all together, he's been saying that all year. He's right, hopefully that's a focus of the NBE.

[SWARM!]

It's so simple: GUARD THE THREE. some might say it's easier said than done, but honestly, it's not. Connaughtan is never going to shoot inside the arc. Stay put for Christ sake. It's not rocket science. They weren't going to beat you inside the arc.  It's beyond infuriating.  We may be a 5 seed now, but luckily it doesn't really matter.

[forgetful]

Yeah, and Notre Dame couldn't complain about any calls either.  Seriously, take off your blue and gold glasses for once.

         

Reading comprehension is fundamental.  I said they didn't cause MU to lose the game. I brought up MU examples because it is more likely for people to remember those plays.  I will say that the balance of bad calls skewed strongly in ND's favor.  

Fact of the matter is if we are handing out grades for officiating, they failed.  If we are handing out grades for in game performances, we failed.  Simple as that.

[GGGG]

We all know that you reffed some HS games so you consider yourself an expert on officiating and always take the refs' side but come on! What an awful analogy. There were some blatantly terrible calls in this game that went against MU and swung the momentum.

Couple benefited MU...couple benefited ND....pretty much evened out at the end.

[Groin_pull]

Damn right Steve Taylor should play more.

[MU82]

It's an absolute joke to suggest the refs had much to do with this outcome.

I'm yelling at the TV for MU to stop leaving Connaughton wide open. I'm begging our guys to stop taking stupid shots and to stop throwing the ball away.

We truly earned this loss.

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If DG doesn't pick up two stupid fouls in the first, no one is talking about the refs.

[NavinRJohnson]

So we should get every rebound? We won the rebounding battle! Guess you didn't see our guys getting pushed inside every time

ND got an offensive rebound on four consecutive possessions and scored on every one ) including the three pointer that ended the game (purely from memory, haven't looked up if that's exactly now it went) So no, you don't have to get every rebound, but you get even two of those, and the outcomes probably different.