NY Post: Butler, Dayton, Xavier to Big East 2013. SLU & Creighton 2014.

[ATWizJr]

Is Dayton a private school?

[MUMonster03]

I love that Dayton fans continually tout their attendance numbers instead of addressing their crappy team.

You have to admit that pulling those numbers while not being good is kinda impressive, look at the current bad teams in the Big East, none of them draw well.

[GGGG]

Is Dayton a private school?

Yes.  Society of Mary Catholic.

[GGGG]

You have to admit that pulling those numbers while not being good is kinda impressive, look at the current bad teams in the Big East, none of them draw well.

Honestly, they aren't as bad as they are being portrayed.  They usually get to 20+ wins with NIT and NCAA bids. 

[LAZER]

DePaul will own Dayton.

Are you joking or serious?

[Norm]

Honestly, they aren't as bad as they are being portrayed.  They usually get to 20+ wins with NIT and NCAA bids. 

I think most of the opposition to Dayton comes from the post by the guy who runs the UDPride website claiming we'd come pleading to the A10 to let us join their conference. Older fans might also remember the way they got the conference tournament awarded to them most every year at one point.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Well, if Dayton does come next year it just gives me an extra year to heckle their fans when the come to the BC. Perks of being a student.

[The Equalizer]

Get ready to laugh

http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=31057.50

I don't think the DePaul fans are laughing anymore.

Vindication:
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=323640305

[The Equalizer]

DePaul will own Dayton.

DePaul couldn't own Tulane.

[Blue Horseshoe]

Actually, come to think about it the Post may be the one of the best sources for this. Owned by Murdoch and if Fox wanted to leak info this week while everyone is in town and media attention is at its highest the Post is probably who they would go through.

The Post is good for more than just sports coverage and catchy headlines.
http://takimag.com/article/a_tale_of_two_new_yorks_gavin_mcinnes/print#axzz2NLiE1VBO

[GGGG]

I don't think the DePaul fans are laughing anymore.

Vindication:
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=323640305

Well, not really.  

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/conferences/standings/_/id/45/horizon-conference

[Pakuni]

I don't think the DePaul fans are laughing anymore.

Vindication:
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=323640305

The Big East probably should invite Green Bay over Marquette because ...

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=323542739

[The Equalizer]

The Big East probably should invite Green Bay over Marquette because ...

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncb/boxscore?gameId=323542739

No, but Green Bay would arguably be a stronger addition than DePaul. 

[TheTulsaWarrior]

Give GB the TV money and you would be surprised what could be achieved.  Same with Loyola, UIC, Detroit and even Oakland.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

Everybody seems to have a bold prediction here so here's mine. Depaul will be a .500 team in conference within the next 3 years. Now how do I set that as my signature?

[Pakuni]

No, but Green Bay would arguably be a stronger addition than DePaul. 

Sure, tell that to Fox. They're dying for a team in the Green Bay market.

But since it's arguable, what's your argument?
Better market? No.
Better tradition? No.
Better name recognition? No.
More successful? No.
Better fans? No.
Lay out your case for GB over DePaul.

[GGGG]

Give GB the TV money and you would be surprised what could be achieved.  Same with Loyola, UIC, Detroit and even Oakland.

If you give a program a bunch of money that hasn't previously invested in their program, you get Fordham in the A10 or DePaul in the Big East.

I think the programs that generally succeed when they move up in a conference are those who have already made wise investments, and now are going to take that next step with their new money.  Marquette in the BE is an example.

[Pakuni]

Give GB the TV money and you would be surprised what could be achieved.  Same with Loyola, UIC, Detroit and even Oakland.

You mean, like Northwestern and Penn State with Big 10 money?
Or Oregon State and Arizona State with Pac 12 money?
Or South Carolina and Mississippi with SEC money?

[SaintPaulWarrior]

Can't wait for PTM to discuss his favorite school Dayton being in the league.

Supposedly Dayton is #1 at something....Best St. Patrick's Day party school.  Also Cletus and WVU at #2.

http://www.brobible.com/college/article/best-college-st-patricks-day-parties/page-3

[Goose]

Know I am in the minority on this but I really do not like additions. You can argue these teams have had solid year and have been better in past few years. My concern is that these teams resumes are based off playing in lower level conferences. I am not so sure they would have looked as strong if they had played in BE the past five seasons. IMO this is step back in history. Will agree these programs have improved in recent history, but I am not confident that they have staying power for success long term.

[GGGG]

Know I am in the minority on this but I really do not like additions. You can argue these teams have had solid year and have been better in past few years. My concern is that these teams resumes are based off playing in lower level conferences. I am not so sure they would have looked as strong if they had played in BE the past five seasons. IMO this is step back in history. Will agree these programs have improved in recent history, but I am not confident that they have staying power for success long term.

So you don't like Butler or Xavier either?  Then who do you want?

[MU B2002]

Know I am in the minority on this but I really do not like additions. You can argue these teams have had solid year and have been better in past few years. My concern is that these teams resumes are based off playing in lower level conferences. I am not so sure they would have looked as strong if they had played in BE the past five seasons. IMO this is step back in history. Will agree these programs have improved in recent history, but I am not confident that they have staying power for success long term.

I am sure there are 300+ schools that would give up some of their staying power for back-to-back trips to the NC game.

[ChitownSpaceForRent]

You mean, like Northwestern and Penn State with Big 10 money?
Or Oregon State and Arizona State with Pac 12 money?
Or South Carolina and Mississippi with SEC money?

You can't argue that though because all of those teams have pretty successful football programs. Especially Northwestern. I don't think Green Bay would be a better addition but you never know.

[Galway Eagle]

Sure, tell that to Fox. They're dying for a team in the Green Bay market.

But since it's arguable, what's your argument?
Better market? No.
Better tradition? No.
Better name recognition? No.
More successful? No.
Better fans? No.
Lay out your case for GB over DePaul.

The only school I could see making a case for is Loyola Chicago.  But even then all it takes is one good year and suddenly the largest catholic school in the country will show up in force to Depaul's games. 

[Goose]

I am sure that back to NC games to Butler probably does mean more to Butler. I would nor sacrifice that at long term success at MU for that. I would say that Butler success long term only happens if Stephens remains. I love the SLU story of last two years because of my fondness for Rick, but long term I see them falling back to where they were pre Rick.

Again, I am not so sure if Butler even makes NCAA those two years if they played in BE those years. It was historic run by them and I love the story. However, I do look at reality and think they might have been on outside looking in if they played BE those years.