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GGGG

Interesting because there were rumors that Creighton informed the MVC yesterday that they were leaving immediately.

MDMU04

Well, look at the bright side. With Dayton on for next year, DePaul will have someone they can beat.
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GGGG

Quote from: MDMU04 on March 13, 2013, 09:36:37 AM
Well, look at the bright side. With Dayton on for next year, DePaul will have someone they can beat.


We are talking University of Dayton here....not the Dayton High School for Girls.

SERocks

Quote from: MDMU04 on March 13, 2013, 09:36:37 AM
Well, look at the bright side. With Dayton on for next year, DePaul will have someone they can beat.

This.

Norm

Drat, was hoping the new Big East would avoid Dayton. At least with MSG we won't have to play the conference tournament in Dayton.

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Archies Bat

I don't take this as anything certain. Most of the article was about the old Big East. The short discussion on the new Big East could easily be a toss in without much actual inside info.

GGGG

The New BE schools are meeting today...so I wonder if we might start hearing something more than rumor even later in the day.


frozena pizza

It would be very disappointing to have Dayton in the first group in, but if Creighton and SLU come the next year I can live with it.

esotericmindguy

So how many bids on an annual basis with this conference? I'd say 5-6, which is a high major conference if you ask me. Georgetown, Marquette, Villanova, butler, Xavier, and creighton typically make it. Question is can these teams keep it up with a tougher schedule.

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Aughnanure on March 13, 2013, 09:24:07 AM
Take it for what it's worth...it;s the Post. Would've thought Creighton for 2013 since their exit fee is non-existent.

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/college/basketball/butler_dayton_xavier_to_join_next_HWBR8nzwcf0a0rZSxkf8IM

Post has always had a pretty solid sports department in my opinion.

JD

Can't wait for PTM to discuss his favorite school Dayton being in the league.
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TomW1365

Quote from: esotericmindguy on March 13, 2013, 09:55:03 AM
So how many bids on an annual basis with this conference? I'd say 5-6, which is a high major conference if you ask me. Georgetown, Marquette, Villanova, butler, Xavier, and creighton typically make it. Question is can these teams keep it up with a tougher schedule.

I don't expect Creighton to do well (at least initially) in the new Beast especially w McDermott out of the picture.  Their schedule (and conference) is filled with cupcake's filling.  Dayton used to have a good program.  What happened?  It's too bad Loyola is a shadow of what they were in the late 60's since it woul be great to have another Jesuit school rivalry.  
When's the last time Loyola of Chicago was name dropped on this (or any) message board?!?

Norm

Not sure why Dayton would get on the first year when NCAA tourney teams like Creighton and SLU (or even VCU) would generate more excitement in the first year for the conference.

Was it St. John's that was rumored to be pushing for Dayton to be included?

GGGG

Quote from: TomW1365 on March 13, 2013, 10:04:43 AM
I don't expect Creighton to do well (at least initially) in the new Beast especially w McDermott out of the picture.  Their schedule (and conference) is filled with cupcake's filling.  Dayton used to have a good program.  What happened?  It's too bad Loyola is a shadow of what they were in the late 60's since it woul be great to have another Jesuit school rivalry.  
When's the last time Loyola of Chicago was name dropped on this (or any) message board?!?


Within the last couple months when some poster claimed that all they needed was admittance into this new conference, and with the new resources, they could be a success.

Not happening.

TomW1365

Quote from: esotericmindguy on March 13, 2013, 09:55:03 AM
So how many bids on an annual basis with this conference? I'd say 5-6, which is a high major conference if you ask me. Georgetown, Marquette, Villanova, butler, Xavier, and creighton typically make it. Question is can these teams keep it up with a tougher schedule.
I expect to see St John and Providence to improve over the next few years too.  Creighton, Dayton are going to have an adjustment period and have a 'ton' of weight problems.  Ge it?  Drum roll and laugh track please.

MUMonster03

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on March 13, 2013, 09:31:53 AM
Interesting because there were rumors that Creighton informed the MVC yesterday that they were leaving immediately.

I'm no expert on the subject so someone correct me if I am off here.

One of the problems Creighton may be facing for next year is they are scheduled to be in the same exempt tournament as us, the 77 Classic. Two teams from the same conference are not allowed to be in the same exempt tournament. This may be a stumbling block for them joining next year unless the NCAA makes some exceptions due to all the realignment.

Not sure if any other tournaments have this same problem for next year or not.

Groin_pull

No idea why Dayton is being included. A crappy bottom feeder that brings nothing to the table.

GGGG

Quote from: MUMonster03 on March 13, 2013, 10:08:56 AM
I'm no expert on the subject so someone correct me if I am off here.

One of the problems Creighton may be facing for next year is they are scheduled to be in the same exempt tournament as us, the 77 Classic. Two teams from the same conference are not allowed to be in the same exempt tournament. This may be a stumbling block for them joining next year unless the NCAA makes some exceptions due to all the realignment.

Not sure if any other tournaments have this same problem for next year or not.


I think this was mentioned here yesterday, but that happened a couple times this year.  And I don't think it is an NCAA concern, but a conference concern.  I am sure that both schools will get whatever waiver they need.

mileskishnish72

SLU, Creighton and Xavier (not to mention Georgetown) are not enough for you?

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ChicosBailBonds

Remember there were many fans, mostly Badger fans but also Rick Majerus and others predicting MU would get slaughtered in the Big East.  Predictions that we wouldn't even make the Big East tournament.

Let's not make the same mistake for Dayton, Creighton, etc.  They might do better than folks think.

Abode4life

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 13, 2013, 10:14:33 AM
Remember there were many fans, mostly Badger fans but also Rick Majerus and others predicting MU would get slaughtered in the Big East.  Predictions that we wouldn't even make the Big East tournament.

Let's not make the same mistake for Dayton, Creighton, etc.  They might do better than folks think.

Especially as long as DePaul is in the league....

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