NY Post: Butler, Dayton, Xavier to Big East 2013. SLU & Creighton 2014.

[MtAiryGoldenEagle]

...guess the Big East decision makers wanted to bring along an intense rivalry (Xavier and Dayton).

[Norm]

Remember when Mike Deane was about to leave Sienna and head to Dayton until Marquette called when O'Neill left?

[buckchuckler]

Dayton RPI by year...
06/07 --75
07/08 --32
08/09 --27
09/10 --39
10/11 --79
11/12 --91
12/13 --107


So most years Dayton is a respectable team that has been on a bit of a slide, but they have recently been top 100 wins every year but this one, top 50 wins 3 of the last 7 years.  Bottom line is, they shouldn't be an RPI drain on.  They may have a little tougher time of it having to play in the Big East.  They will have to get used to not being able to play Duquesne, Fordham, Rhode Island and the like.

I'm not sure they have been any better than DePaul, but they haven't been up by teams like Cuse, UL, UConn.  DePaul has been destroyed by teams that are s16, E8, Final Four teams, and even National Champs.  And they have been dealing with teams of that caliber night in and night out.  It may be a rude awakening for Dayton.  But, they may fit right in and be a good productive team that can make the tourney every couple of years as well.  Who knows, they may even get a boost from the conference and turn into a consistently good team.  

I guess my point is, they aren't the worst possible team to add.  They have a tendency of being at least ok.  I mean, it isn't like we are adding a team that typically has an RPI over 150.  

[Aughnanure]

Post has always had a pretty solid sports department in my opinion.

May be true. I don't read the sports too much. It was the Wash Post that threw out the Siena and Detroit names right?

Also, just saw this. Hoping Sultan is right and we get some news today.

@ESPNAndyKatz: Departing new Big East presidents briefing ADs today in NYC about exit terms, expansion, commish & other plans

[MUMonster03]

We have to add some teams that will be at the bottom so Marquette can be 14-4 again! All records have to add up to .500 in conference play so not everyone can be good.

[Aughnanure]

No idea why Dayton is being included. A crappy bottom feeder that brings nothing to the table.

Fan interest and investment/commitment in basketball. They'd have the 3rd ranked attendance. And it's fine. We need our 2-3 bottom feeders so we can have multiple teams go 14-4 or and better in conference.

EDIT: Ha, said the exact same thing ^

[Aughnanure]

I don't expect Creighton to do well (at least initially) in the new Beast especially w McDermott out of the picture.  Their schedule (and conference) is filled with cupcake's filling.  Dayton used to have a good program.  What happened?  It's too bad Loyola is a shadow of what they were in the late 60's since it woul be great to have another Jesuit school rivalry.  
When's the last time Loyola of Chicago was name dropped on this (or any) message board?!?

Well even if they got good they'd be out because of DePaul and Marquette so close. Holy Cross would've been a good add too in 1960.

[buckchuckler]

We have to add some teams that will be at the bottom so Marquette can be 14-4 again! All records have to add up to .500 in conference play so not everyone can be good.

Hahahaha +1

Also you are a mathematical genius!

[The Process]

Fan interest and investment/commitment in basketball. They'd have the 3rd ranked attendance. And it's fine. We need our 2-3 bottom feeders so we can have multiple teams go 14-4 or and better in conference.

EDIT: Ha, said the exact same thing ^

Bring on the army of Cavaliers, I guess (as I almost vomit in my mouth).

Anyone see PTM this AM...?

[Aughnanure]

Post has always had a pretty solid sports department in my opinion.

Actually, come to think about it the Post may be the one of the best sources for this. Owned by Murdoch and if Fox wanted to leak info this week while everyone is in town and media attention is at its highest the Post is probably who they would go through.

[MarquetteDano]

PTM will hate me for saying this but I really believe Dayton and Creighton will make a jump joining this league.  They have a rabid fan following and they just needed something to bring in big time recruits.  I think the NBE will be just what the doctor ordered for those two schools.

[dayton flyers]

Fan interest and investment/commitment in basketball. They'd have the 3rd ranked attendance. And it's fine. We need our 2-3 bottom feeders so we can have multiple teams go 14-4 or and better in conference.

EDIT: Ha, said the exact same thing ^

I think Dayton would be #2 in attendance behind Marquette.  I think Dayton drew more fans last year than Georgetown did.

Edit:  oops, forgot about Creighton.  Dayton would be #3 behind Creighton and Marquette.  Not exactly sure who #1 would be, either Creighton or Marquette.

[chr31ter]

DePaul has been destroyed by teams that are s16, E8, Final Four teams, and even National Champs.

Let's face it... DePaul's been beaten up by pretty much everyone.  Dayton is miles ahead of where DePaul is right now.

[dayton flyers]

And I expect that Dayton's attendance is going to increase, I'm not sure how much the increase will be, if Dayton is in the c7 league.  The UD Arena holds 13,435, so there is room for attendance growth.

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/m_basketball_RB/Reports/attend/2012.pdf

2012 attendance:

Creighton 16,665
Marquette 15,138
Dayton 12,154
Georgetown 11,283
Xavier 10,155
Villanova 8,923
St. John's 8,428
Providence 7,883
St. Louis 7,757
Seton Hall 6,941
DePaul 7,740
Butler 6,599

[RushmoreAcademy]

The UD board is salivating:
http://www.udpride.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22855&page=8

[MDMU04]

The UD board is salivating:
http://www.udpride.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22855&page=8

And I am vomiting.

[Pakuni]

The UD board is salivating:
http://www.udpride.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22855&page=8

The same people who not so long ago mocked the C7 schools and said we'd come begging to join their league.
Irony can be pretty ironic sometimes.

[TallTitan34]

DePaul will own Dayton.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

And I am vomiting.

+1

[Norm]

And I am vomiting.

Yep, just not excited about Dayton. Guess I'll have to focus on the good news of Xavier and Butler joining the Big East.

[CAGASS24]

Will be very interesting to see how MU handles the added pressure of being a bell-cow in the new league, especially with no pieces from the last Conf USA days around, when we had that kind of noteriety (though obviously not as strong a conf).  If Porter leaves and with our returnees/signees, gotta think we'll be earmarked as somewhat of a favorite leading up to the season.  Will no longer be able to rely on that disrespect chip in regards to our perception at least in the conference.

Buzz may have to adjust his methods a bit

[Skatastrophy]

I love that Dayton fans continually tout their attendance numbers instead of addressing their crappy team.

[Jay Bee]

How cool! We'll get to play conference games in the very same arena that hosts the First Four!

[buckchuckler]

I love that Dayton fans continually tout their attendance numbers instead of addressing their crappy team.

Cub fan like

[🏀]

I don't know what to say. Not sure if living is really worth it now.