ESPN poll: future of Big East

[Eldon]

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/post/_/id/9032205/brighter-future-big-east-divorce

Interesting to see how ESPN website visitors view our future.

[TallTitan34]

Which league has a greater future:

Catholic 7      73%
America 12    27%

[ChicosBailBonds]

Which league has a greater future:

Catholic 7      73%
America 12    27%

And yet, these same dolts say the America 12 conference is a high major.  Low information voters...the dumbing down of America continues.  These people have no idea what they are even voting on.

[chapman]

And yet, these same dolts say the America 12 conference is a high major.  Low information voters...the dumbing down of America continues.  These people have no idea what they are even voting on.

Reading the comments on Liberty's clinching an NCAA bid gave me a similar impression of just how dumb people are getting.  Somehow them winning a low-major auto-bid meant they "stole a bid from a more deserving team", and negated the purpose of the regular season for the entire NCAA field. 

[ChicosBailBonds]

Reading the comments on Liberty's clinching an NCAA bid gave me a similar impression of just how dumb people are getting.  Somehow them winning a low-major auto-bid meant they "stole a bid from a more deserving team", and negated the purpose of the regular season for the entire NCAA field. 

80% of NYC High School students can't read well enough to gain acceptance to a community college.  This is what we are dealing with, and it permeates sports fans as well.  There are many dumb people in this country....mostly residing on the Badger boards.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/03/08/about-80-percent-of-nyc-high-school-grads-cant-read-well-enough-for-community-college/

[Norm]

And yet, these same dolts say the America 12 conference is a high major.  Low information voters...the dumbing down of America continues.  These people have no idea what they are even voting on.

Um, no. At 9:45pm EDT tonight only 12% say they would be a high major.

[4everwarriors]

80% of NYC High School students can't read well enough to gain acceptance to a community college.  This is what we are dealing with, and it permeates sports fans as well.  There are many dumb people in this country....mostly residing on the Badger boards.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/03/08/about-80-percent-of-nyc-high-school-grads-cant-read-well-enough-for-community-college/

Glad there aren't any on this board.

[avid1010]

80% of NYC High School students can't read well enough to gain acceptance to a community college.  This is what we are dealing with, and it permeates sports fans as well.  There are many dumb people in this country....mostly residing on the Badger boards.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/03/08/about-80-percent-of-nyc-high-school-grads-cant-read-well-enough-for-community-college/

oh, the irony.

[Lennys Tap]

And yet, these same dolts say the America 12 conference is a high major.  Low information voters...the dumbing down of America continues.  These people have no idea what they are even voting on.

Do you ever get tired of looking down your nose at other people? (Rhetorical question if you didn't know).

[Aughnanure]

80% of NYC High School students can't read well enough to gain acceptance to a community college.  This is what we are dealing with, and it permeates sports fans as well.  There are many dumb people in this country....mostly residing on the Badger boards.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/03/08/about-80-percent-of-nyc-high-school-grads-cant-read-well-enough-for-community-college/

Says the person getting his information from The Daily Caller.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Says the person getting his information from The Daily Caller.

CBS News

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/03/07/officials-most-nyc-high-school-grads-need-remedial-help-before-entering-cuny-community-colleges/

[ChicosBailBonds]

Um, no. At 9:45pm EDT tonight only 12% say they would be a high major.

No, 12% say it will be a major power conference.  46% say a high mid major....I have my doubts outside of Memphis, UC and Uconn that conference is anything but mid major and not high mid major...around 10th through 13th in the conference rankings.  They will be very top heavy with 3 good teams and just nothing below it.

They will be like the WAC, which is currently 12th or like CUSA (since many come from there, which is currently 11th).

[ChicosBailBonds]

Do you ever get tired of looking down your nose at other people? (Rhetorical question if you didn't know).

Not to those that deserve it.  Literal answer to your rhetorical question, which by its very definition  you didn't want an answer to and were simply making a point....you got an answer anyway...which shouldn't surprise you.   

[forgetful]

Not to those that deserve it.  Literal answer to your rhetorical question, which by its very definition  you didn't want an answer to and were simply making a point....you got an answer anyway...which shouldn't surprise you.   

So the kids that come from really poor backgrounds in the inner city of NY, that are provided a poor education, deserve to be looked down upon????

You did get an education from a Jesuit University didn't you???

And also, your first post referred to the %'s as high-major.  It was pointed out to you that it was only 12% major power the rest high mid-major.  Yet you defend your statement as being correct.  Wouldn't it have been easier to just say oops I missed that and was confused by the high mid-major wording.  It would have been understandable.

[brewcity77]

Reading the comments on Liberty's clinching an NCAA bid gave me a similar impression of just how dumb people are getting.  Somehow them winning a low-major auto-bid meant they "stole a bid from a more deserving team", and negated the purpose of the regular season for the entire NCAA field. 

Maybe they were Charleston Southern fans?

[avid1010]

CBS News

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/03/07/officials-most-nyc-high-school-grads-need-remedial-help-before-entering-cuny-community-colleges/

your point is???

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/10/23/3062875/miami-dade-wins-top-education.html

my question would be...what % of nyc graduates recognize the difference between "high major" and "high mid-major" when reading an article and ripping on others?

[muwarrior69]

Reading the comments on Liberty's clinching an NCAA bid gave me a similar impression of just how dumb people are getting.  Somehow them winning a low-major auto-bid meant they "stole a bid from a more deserving team", and negated the purpose of the regular season for the entire NCAA field.  

We can thank the ACC again for this kind of an anomaly. They were the only conference to hold a tournament in the country for a long time. Then everybody wanted a money maker as well. I think it is only the Ivy league that has no tournament. When the super conferences break away from the NCAA to form their own tournament, and they will (more $$$$), and leave all those "less deserving schools out of the running" will you feel robbed like Charleston Southern?

[Sunbelt15]

One question: If football is the "moneymaker" in the Big East, how were the basketball teams able to grab the Big East name?

[The Equalizer]

No, 12% say it will be a major power conference.  46% say a high mid major....I have my doubts outside of Memphis, UC and Uconn that conference is anything but mid major and not high mid major...around 10th through 13th in the conference rankings.  They will be very top heavy with 3 good teams and just nothing below it.

I think they'll actually have 4:  UConn, Memphis, Cincy & Temple.

For all the crap the likes of Tulane, ECU and UCF take, they're not unlike St. Johns, Providence, Seton Hall, or DePaul from an RPI perspective right now.

82. St. Johns
84. Providence
94. East Carolina
99. UCF
137. South Florida
141. Seton Hall
188 Tulane
193 Houston
198. Depaul
214. SMU

[Pakuni]

One question: If football is the "moneymaker" in the Big East, how were the basketball teams able to grab the Big East name?

They gave the football teams a large majority of their share of other schools' (Syracuse, WVU, Pitt, Rutgers) exit fees. In short, they paid handsomely for it.

[Litehouse]

I'd also say the other schools are more concerned about football, and the Big East name doesn't mean as much for football.  It has much more value for the basketball schools.

[forgetful]

One question: If football is the "moneymaker" in the Big East, how were the basketball teams able to grab the Big East name?

And get more money for their TV deal.

[JediWarrior]

I think they'll actually have 4:  UConn, Memphis, Cincy & Temple.

For all the crap the likes of Tulane, ECU and UCF take, they're not unlike St. Johns, Providence, Seton Hall, or DePaul from an RPI perspective right now.

82. St. Johns
84. Providence
94. East Carolina
99. UCF
137. South Florida
141. Seton Hall
188 Tulane
193 Houston
198. Depaul
214. SMU

You had just had to bring logic and intelligence into this mental meat fest.

I agree with your assessment.  In addition, football revenue provides a lot of growth potential for some of these American 12 schools.  I think the Catholic 7 will be a very strong basketball conference from the start, but the American 12 could be competing at a similar level within 5-6 years.

This is all assuming the conference realignment stabilizes long enough to see.

[ChicosBailBonds]

your point is???

http://www.miamiherald.com/2012/10/23/3062875/miami-dade-wins-top-education.html

my question would be...what % of nyc graduates recognize the difference between "high major" and "high mid-major" when reading an article and ripping on others?

Excuse me for typing too fast and leaving "mid" out.  I recognized the difference just fine

[ChicosBailBonds]

So the kids that come from really poor backgrounds in the inner city of NY, that are provided a poor education, deserve to be looked down upon????

You did get an education from a Jesuit University didn't you???

And also, your first post referred to the %'s as high-major.  It was pointed out to you that it was only 12% major power the rest high mid-major.  Yet you defend your statement as being correct.  Wouldn't it have been easier to just say oops I missed that and was confused by the high mid-major wording.  It would have been understandable.

Yes, I did (attend a Jesuit university)....Despite throwing more and more money at it, test scores, verbal achievements, math aptitudes have worsened in many parts of this country for the last three decades.  That's what I find sad, the fact that we can't get this right despite the resources that have been thrown at it the last three decades.  I don't look down on poor people at all...I look down on those that have an opportunity and waste it...rich or poor.  There is a difference.  We have accepted mediocrity.  It is disgusting that 80% of high school graduates are in a position like that and it is allowed to happen.  Be it parenting, schools, gov't, individuals that are not putting in the effort. 

Anyone that has volunteered in areas of need knows exactly what I am talking about.  It's not rich or poor or middle class, it is those that choose to take the opportunities afforded them and doing something with them and those that do not.  Not all these opportunities are equal, nor is anyone saying that they are.  But those that choose to squander it, yeah...I have a problem with it, regardless of your stature in life.  If you are a rich kid and you sit around not taking advantage of what is there for you, then I am every bit as disgusted.  80% not being able to read...it's a damn joke and a disgusting one at that.

I understood just fine what I was reading.  I typed too fast and skipped over a word.  It is what it is, I do it often when I'm thinking faster than my fingers can output.