From 1-17 to Champions

[Canned Goods n Ammo]

I assume in your rush to provide "clever" hyperbole you omitted the word win.

Have your boy TC help with your preparation and that won't happen. If you need to make an in post adjustment though, I suggest getting help elsewhere.

Well done.

I deserve it.

[Sunbelt15]

Forget Crean, move on. We're in the Buzz Era and it's lookin goooooood!!

[augoman]

so Chicos, should I4's B1? title have an asterisk in the record books(ala barry bonds,etc) due to the aau coach's son hiring?

[keefe]

so Chicos, should I4's B1? title have an asterisk in the record books(ala barry bonds,etc) due to the aau coach's son hiring?

No, just a special one-off banner to note the achievement.

[The Lens]

From 14-4 in 2008 to 1-17 in 2009

Can that be added to the T-shirt?

[Benny B]

A true IU fan wouldn't be gloating right now.  A true IU fan would be quietly smiling reluctantly knowing that a Big ? championship is nice, but this isn't Indiana basketball.

Who is ecstatic about IU clinching a share of the championship right now?  All of the peace-love-hippie-turned-professional females who graduated from IU in the late 90's who never bothered to attend a basketball game while in school and couldn't - to this day - give you a name of any current player on the team.  The same ones who were convinced that Bobby Knight really was going to rape them and tell them to enjoy it, and after he was fired, were happy to jump on the basketball bandwagon after a few tourney wins in 2002 (but jumped off well before the final buzzer sounded against Maryland).

They know who Tom Crean is, though... and they'll be buying a commemorative t-shirt, which will be donated - unwashed and unworn - to Goodwill in two years.

Congratulations, IU.  Those of you who care, don't; and those of you that do, phonies.  Except Chicos, that is... because like Virginia believed in Santa Claus, so too does Chicos believe in IU -- such is why half of us are annoyed by Chicos and the other half think he's adorable to watch once a year.

[Lennys Tap]

Benny from downtown! Yes!

[The Lens]

Piling on Benny...

Remember the dare to dream article Dan Wetzel wrote on MU & TC?  Well that happens at MU.  But at IU when you bring out a ladder you get Pat Forde teeing off on your excess.  He went to IU because he claimed to know IU hoops yet most MU fans seem to understand the program better than he does.

[ChicosBailBonds]

A true IU fan wouldn't be gloating right now.  A true IU fan would be quietly smiling reluctantly knowing that a Big ? championship is nice, but this isn't Indiana basketball.

Who is ecstatic about IU clinching a share of the championship right now?  All of the peace-love-hippie-turned-professional females who graduated from IU in the late 90's who never bothered to attend a basketball game while in school and couldn't - to this day - give you a name of any current player on the team.  The same ones who were convinced that Bobby Knight really was going to rape them and tell them to enjoy it, and after he was fired, were happy to jump on the basketball bandwagon after a few tourney wins in 2002 (but jumped off well before the final buzzer sounded against Maryland).

They know who Tom Crean is, though... and they'll be buying a commemorative t-shirt, which will be donated - unwashed and unworn - to Goodwill in two years.

Congratulations, IU.  Those of you who care, don't; and those of you that do, phonies.  Except Chicos, that is... because like Virginia believed in Santa Claus, so too does Chicos believe in IU -- such is why half of us are annoyed by Chicos and the other half think he's adorable to watch once a year.

Gloating from hence they came....no.  Proud from hence they came...yes.  The 14-4 Kelvin Sampson record was accomplished through illegal endeavors and they were put on probation for it.  Kids on drugs, flunking out of school, etc.

Now, good kids, graduating kids, over achieving kids mixed with some stars....damn right I'm proud of that and so are most IU alums...considering where we were under Sampson and what he was doing (including stuff that hasn't come out in the public)....yes, very proud.  It's more a gloating of accomplishment in the short term, not against the historical reference of the program.  There is a big difference.

Your predictions have been so terribly wrong this year and in the past, I'm not exactly holding my breath on this one either.   

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

My prediction has come true, that Indiana fans would soon realize what a preening, self serving douche bag he is and would hold their nose (and tongue) until he leaves. If you think IU fans approve of
Last nights embarrassment you are kidding yourself. I wonder if Kansas or Kentucky would lower themselves for that kind of stunt? It wasn't the first time for Crean and it won't be the
Last. What's worse is that he took a heartfelt gesture Knight made 25 years ago and tried to make it his own.

I'd like to know who ordered the banners he had raised at the BC removed. Sure as hell this new one he demanded at Assembly Hall will come down as soon as he's gone

[ChicosBailBonds]

so Chicos, should I4's B1? title have an asterisk in the record books(ala barry bonds,etc) due to the aau coach's son hiring?

Was it illegal...you know, like what Barry Bonds was doing was illegal?  Should some of MU's banners have an * by them considering some of the things going on during the Al McGuire era much like the things going on at UCLA, Kentucky, etc?  Sure you want to go there?

[ChicosBailBonds]

My prediction has come true, that Indiana fans would soon realize what a preening, self serving douche bag he is and would hold their nose (and tongue) until he leaves. If you think IU fans approve of
Last nights embarrassment you are kidding yourself. I wonder if Kansas or Kentucky would lower themselves for that kind of stunt? It wasn't the first time for Crean and it won't be the
Last. What's worse is that he took a heartfelt gesture Knight made 25 years ago and tried to make it his own.

I'd like to know who ordered the banners he had raised at the BC removed. Sure as hell this new one he demanded at Assembly Hall will come down as soon as he's gone

Your prediction came true?  You said he would be fired by now and they never would be good under him.  Yes, your predictions have been rock solid.

[keefe]

A true IU fan wouldn't be gloating right now.  A true IU fan would be quietly smiling reluctantly knowing that a Big ? championship is nice, but this isn't Indiana basketball.

Who is ecstatic about IU clinching a share of the championship right now?  All of the peace-love-hippie-turned-professional females who graduated from IU in the late 90's who never bothered to attend a basketball game while in school and couldn't - to this day - give you a name of any current player on the team.  The same ones who were convinced that Bobby Knight really was going to rape them and tell them to enjoy it, and after he was fired, were happy to jump on the basketball bandwagon after a few tourney wins in 2002 (but jumped off well before the final buzzer sounded against Maryland).

They know who Tom Crean is, though... and they'll be buying a commemorative t-shirt, which will be donated - unwashed and unworn - to Goodwill in two years.

Congratulations, IU.  Those of you who care, don't; and those of you that do, phonies.  Except Chicos, that is... because like Virginia believed in Santa Claus, so too does Chicos believe in IU -- such is why half of us are annoyed by Chicos and the other half think he's adorable to watch once a year.

F2cking hilarious. And so very true.

[keefe]

My prediction has come true, that Indiana fans would soon realize what a preening, self serving douche bag he is and would hold their nose (and tongue) until he leaves. If you think IU fans approve of
Last nights embarrassment you are kidding yourself. I wonder if Kansas or Kentucky would lower themselves for that kind of stunt? It wasn't the first time for Crean and it won't be the
Last. What's worse is that he took a heartfelt gesture Knight made 25 years ago and tried to make it his own.

I'd like to know who ordered the banners he had raised at the BC removed. Sure as hell this new one he demanded at Assembly Hall will come down as soon as he's gone

Marquette has put those things up for on line auction. I trust no one actually bid on those worthless trinkets designed as testament to a man's greatness.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

Your prediction came true?  You said he would be fired by now and they never would be good under him.  Yes, your predictions have been rock solid.

I never said any such thing.

[ChicosBailBonds]

From 14-4 in 2008 to 1-17 in 2009

Can that be added to the T-shirt?

2008  Big Ten 6th best conference  http://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2008/conferencerpi

2013  Big Ten 2nd best conference  http://warrennolan.com/basketball/2013/conferencerpi

Hmmmmmmm

[ChicosBailBonds]

F2cking hilarious. And so very true.

I feel a $50 million donation coming to MU soon 

[Benny B]

Your predictions have been so terribly wrong this year and in the past, I'm not exactly holding my breath on this one either.    

If you think the part about donating t-shirts to Goodwill was meant as a prediction, my apologies.  It was intended as a metaphor demonstrating the fickleness of IU-nationregion.

The only actual prediction one could infer from my recitation is that someday soon you'll become a professional.  But that was certainly not the implication.

[ChicosBailBonds]

If you think the part about donating t-shirts to Goodwill was meant as a prediction, my apologies.  It was intended as a metaphor demonstrating the fickleness of IU-nationregion.

The only actual prediction one could infer from my recitation is that someday soon you'll become a professional.  But that was certainly not the implication.

Not being an IU graduate and pretending to know what they are feeling is probably the most fun to watch...the opinions of those not part of the family.  Expectations change, and they are a fickle fanbase.  Right now, they are proud to be back as major player.  In a few years, yes, they will demand more and more, such is life.  If MU wins the Big East title this week, do you think our fanbase won't act like this?  What did our own fanbase do when we dared to go to the NIT after the Final Four?  Comes with the territory.

As for you second sentence, seems like a cheap shot, but to each their own.  Have a good one.

[ChicosBailBonds]

I never said any such thing.

You're right...you never said anything about him being fired or that he would not have success..."never said any such thing"...wait...you didn't say...

"Crean's on the verge of losing control and losing the faith of Hoosier fans who have gotten wise to him much quicker than MU fans."

And you didn't say this "I cannot wait until Crean gets fired and tries to make inroads about getting back in good graces at MU. And I cannot wait for the day that he makes an appearance at the BC. I will boo the tan right off his swollen, defeated body."

And you didn't say..."The only positive thing that will come out of Crean at Indiana is that Mike Davis' Indiana legacy will soon start looking like Tom Izzo's."

and..."My how the great Indiana Hoosiers have fallen! It's pathetic, really. In year 3 (!) they're content with close losses. Top 5 program of all time? Give me a break. They're on their way through the floor boards. Better jobs in the Big Ten: MSU, Wisconsin, Ohio State, Purdue and arguably Illinois."

I could go on, that was page ONE of the search, but yes you have gone there plenty of times.  Maybe because you still blame him for the Gold when all evidence points to that not being the case and you got a little confused.  For some it's the hearing, or the knees that go first.....

[keefe]

I feel a $50 million donation coming to MU soon 

I never said that. Over the course of 20 years my wife have given over $50,000 to MU.

[PuertoRicanNightmare]

You're right...you never said anything about him being fired or that he would not have success..."never said any such thing"...wait...you didn't say...

"Crean's on the verge of losing control and losing the faith of Hoosier fans who have gotten wise to him much quicker than MU fans."

And you didn't say this "I cannot wait until Crean gets fired and tries to make inroads about getting back in good graces at MU. And I cannot wait for the day that he makes an appearance at the BC. I will boo the tan right off his swollen, defeated body."

And you didn't say..."The only positive thing that will come out of Crean at Indiana is that Mike Davis' Indiana legacy will soon start looking like Tom Izzo's."

and..."My how the great Indiana Hoosiers have fallen! It's pathetic, really. In year 3 (!) they're content with close losses. Top 5 program of all time? Give me a break. They're on their way through the floor boards. Better jobs in the Big Ten: MSU, Wisconsin, Ohio State, Purdue and arguably Illinois."

I could go on, that was page ONE of the search, but yes you have gone there plenty of times.  Maybe because you still blame him for the Gold when all evidence points to that not being the case and you got a little confused.  For some it's the hearing, or the knees that go first.....

Where is the post where I said he'd be fired by now?

[Lennys Tap]

2008  Big Ten 6th best conference  http://www.warrennolan.com/basketball/2008/conferencerpi

2013  Big Ten 2nd best conference  http://warrennolan.com/basketball/2013/conferencerpi

Hmmmmmmm

Wait. The Big Ten isn't the best conference this year? The Mountain West is? Weren't we assured that nobody was even close to the Big Ten this year? Am I "misremembering"?

[ChicosBailBonds]

Wait. The Big Ten isn't the best conference this year? The Mountain West is? Weren't we assured that nobody was even close to the Big Ten this year? Am I "misremembering"?

Depends on the rating system....it is better than the Big East.


Number 1 in Sagarin  http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/sagarin/bkc1213.htm

Number 1 in Warren Nolan  http://warrennolan.com/basketball/2013/conferencenpi

Number 2 in RPI

I believe number 1 in Ken Pom, but will have to double check.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Where is the post where I said he'd be fired by now?

The answer is right next to the one about how you implied that an IU player, Yogi Ferrell, was wearing #11 and it should be a retired number or "disrespecting" exercise all brought about by the current coach....even though Bob Knight, Mike Davis, Dan Dakich all allowed other players to wear #11 since Isaiah.

Search there, you will find your answer.  It's fun proving you wrong time and time again, I'm up for the challenge whenever you like.