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Aughnanure

#26
Quote from: Avenue Commons on March 03, 2013, 01:36:45 PM
MU's loss to UW-GB is a lead weigh around our ankles.

Highly doubt that would drop MSU to a 5 seed. Kansas lost to TCU.....and?

This has much more to do with them being Michigan State coached by Tom Izzo, than a UWGB loss.
“All men dream; but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act out their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible.” - T.E. Lawrence

buckchuckler

For whatever its worth, it has corrected a bit.  He now has MU as a 4 and MSU as a 3.

ChicosBailBonds

#28
Quote from: Aughnanure on March 04, 2013, 06:05:57 PM
Highly doubt that would drop MSU to a 5 seed. Kansas lost to TCU.....and?

This has much more to do with them being Michigan State coached by Tom Izzo, than a UWGB loss.

I think it has as much to do with their rating and SOS.  Jerry is an RPI hound.  Michigan State is an 8 in the RPI, Marquette a 12...those 4 spots represent one full line difference.

RPI Forecast has MSU finishing 9th (that's a 3 seed) and MU 15th (that's a 4 seed).  Right in line with what the RPI is saying and the seeds.  He's just going by his numbers.  RPI doesn't care about brand name, or if Izzo is coaching.  Cares about who you played, where you played, did you win or lose.  MSU's forecasted 4th toughest schedule in the country is helping them out....MU solid at 12th SOS


keefe

Quote from: LloydMooresLegs on March 03, 2013, 07:56:26 PM
+ 1

touch 'em all, kid

Some people refuse to eat oysters while others see the world as their oyster.

Some people define their world by living in three Midwestern cities while others live on three continents and visit all 7.

Some people think getting away is going to the same cabin on the same lake every year while others fly fish Tasmania.

Some people have flown over the Rockies while others climb 7,000 meter mountains on 4 continents.

Some people are satisfied to work in the same company and make the same commute day after day while others leap at the opportunity to work in international outposts of American capitalism.

Some people master the English language while others master three very different Asian languages.

Some people are comforted by the foods they know while others explore the back alleys of Medan, Chengdu, Firenze, Budapest and Lima to discover what the locals eat.

Some people find joy in Christmas at home with extended family gathered round while others prefer the solitude of a Christmas sunset on the Andaman Sea with the spinnaker out on your 36' Yamaha.

Some people buy tricked out Hummers to tame the mean streets of Deer Park while others weld armor plate to the doors of their Hummer to keep RPGs in Samarra from penetrating into the cabin.

Some people think exotic is eating Thai at the strip mall while others eat Bolani while seated on the dirt floor of a Pashtun tribal chieftain's home.

Some people know someone who blew out an ACL skiing while others know several friends who have lost a limb from an IED or taken an AK round.

Some people have death touch them rarely while others live with the specter of death daily.


Life is about choices. There are neither better choices nor wrong choices, for every man must make his own way in this world. My guess is you are not one to eat oysters. You are content with the predictable, the expected, the comfortable. And there is nothing wrong with those choices. It is your life to live in the way you see fit.

One of the biggest problems with the Marquette community in my time was that it was a very homogenous world. Kids were middle class Catholic, a large percentage Irish and most from parochial backgrounds. There was very little diversity and what little there was not embraced. Rather, it was at a minimum avoided for most students were simply uncomfortable with their lack of understanding. In some cases diversity was mocked and ridiculed. I saw and heard this personally. The Black Student Union went on strike three times between the late 60's and the late '70's. And we almost lost our basketball team on one occasion.

I used to meet individually with Fr Corbett Walsh,  Fr John Sheehan, and Br Sebastian Moore in the evenings just to pick their highly educated brains and understand their perspectives on life. Among other things we did discuss the diversity issue at Marquette. Fr Sheehan said he wished the University broadened its recruiting targets from the traditional Catholic ghettos of the Midwest and east coast but that had become the school's bread and butter since the '50's. Fr Walsh said Marquette's mission had settled comfortably into sending back good parishioners to the diocese from when they came. Both Jesuits felt the University was failing in its core Jesuit mission, however. The Jesuit tradition was to train lions to take on the world. Their view was that Marquette was creating lambs whose goal in life was to go to law school. Fr Sheehan said he intentionally would make provocative statements just to see if anyone would challenge him. And sadly, everybody would copiously write down everything he just said, even though it was outrageously incorrect.

Seb Moore was a real inspiration. He was part of that clerical enclave on Kilbourn that refused to live at the Jes Res. He often lamented the suburban white bread blandness of the student body at Marquette. He felt that Marquette students were devoid of passion and intellectual curiosity. They took notes, expected A's and were outraged when they got B's for simply regurgitating back his notes with nary a creative spark anywhere in that blue book. Seb challenged a group of us to do more than just conform. He often had an eclectic group over for dinner and the conversation would go deep into the night. He quoted Byron and urged us all to take Frost's road not taken for that would be the more interesting.

We were married by Fr Corbett Walsh at Gesu. At the end of the ceremony he leaned down to us and whispered, "I expect the two of you to do something good in this world together. Make a difference and dare to be different." No one else heard that but that is how we lived our lives together.

   


Death on call

keefe

Quote from: keefe on March 04, 2013, 08:12:24 PM
Some people refuse to eat oysters while others see the world as their oyster.

Some people define their world by living in three Midwestern cities while others live on three continents and visit all 7.

Some people think getting away is going to the same cabin on the same lake every year while others fly fish Tasmania.

Some people have flown over the Rockies while others climb 7,000 meter mountains on 4 continents.

Some people are satisfied to work in the same company and make the same commute day after day while others leap at the opportunity to work in international outposts of American capitalism.

Some people master the English language while others master three very different Asian languages.

Some people are comforted by the foods they know while others explore the back alleys of Medan, Chengdu, Firenze, Budapest and Lima to discover what the locals eat.

Some people find joy in Christmas at home with extended family gathered round while others prefer the solitude of a Christmas sunset on the Andaman Sea with the spinnaker out on your 36' Yamaha.

Some people buy tricked out Hummers to tame the mean streets of Deer Park while others weld armor plate to the doors of their Hummer to keep RPGs in Samarra from penetrating into the cabin.

Some people think exotic is eating Thai at the strip mall while others eat Bolani while seated on the dirt floor of a Pashtun tribal chieftain's home.

Some people know someone who blew out an ACL skiing while others know several friends who have lost a limb from an IED or taken an AK round.

Some people have death touch them rarely while others live with the specter of death daily.


Life is about choices. There are neither better choices nor wrong choices, for every man must make his own way in this world. My guess is you are not one to eat oysters. You are content with the predictable, the expected, the comfortable. And there is nothing wrong with those choices. It is your life to live in the way you see fit.

One of the biggest problems with the Marquette community in my time was that it was a very homogenous world. Kids were middle class Catholic, a large percentage Irish and most from parochial backgrounds. There was very little diversity and what little there was not embraced. Rather, it was at a minimum avoided for most students were simply uncomfortable with their lack of understanding. In some cases diversity was mocked and ridiculed. I saw and heard this personally. The Black Student Union went on strike three times between the late 60's and the late '70's. And we almost lost our basketball team on one occasion.

I used to meet individually with Fr Corbett Walsh,  Fr John Sheehan, and Br Sebastian Moore in the evenings just to pick their highly educated brains and understand their perspectives on life. Among other things we did discuss the diversity issue at Marquette. Fr Sheehan said he wished the University broadened its recruiting targets from the traditional Catholic ghettos of the Midwest and east coast but that had become the school's bread and butter since the '50's. Fr Walsh said Marquette's mission had settled comfortably into sending back good parishioners to the diocese from when they came. Both Jesuits felt the University was failing in its core Jesuit mission, however. The Jesuit tradition was to train lions to take on the world. Their view was that Marquette was creating lambs whose goal in life was to go to law school. Fr Sheehan said he intentionally would make provocative statements just to see if anyone would challenge him. And sadly, everybody would copiously write down everything he just said, even though it was outrageously incorrect.

Seb Moore was a real inspiration. He was part of that clerical enclave on Kilbourn that refused to live at the Jes Res. He often lamented the suburban white bread blandness of the student body at Marquette. He felt that Marquette students were devoid of passion and intellectual curiosity. They took notes, expected A's and were outraged when they got B's for simply regurgitating back his notes with nary a creative spark anywhere in that blue book. Seb challenged a group of us to do more than just conform. He often had an eclectic group over for dinner and the conversation would go deep into the night. He quoted Byron and urged us all to take Frost's road not taken for that would be the more interesting.

We were married by Fr Corbett Walsh at Gesu. At the end of the ceremony he leaned down to us and whispered, "I expect the two of you to do something good in this world together. Make a difference and dare to be different." No one else heard that but that is how we lived our lives together.

   

Quoted so you could read it.


Death on call

buckchuckler

#31
 ::)

You just can't help but make everything about you huh?  We get it, you think you're great.  
Please create a website called Keefescoop.com.  Those interested in your super awesome and interesting life can go there and read about it. 

NavinRJohnson

#32
Dude, wtf is wrong with you?

Sir Lawrence

Quote from: keefe on March 04, 2013, 08:15:18 PM
Quoted so you could read it.

That was helpful. Thank you.  Quoting it.  Because. 

Did the Yamaha have a Yanmar engine?  Quirky boom clearance on the 36 footers, but I'm pretty short.

Had a cheeseburger with a local in Lima.  She said it was goat meat.  Tasted a little like chicken.  Free range chicken.  But in Peru they pretty much are all free range.  Some climb a few meters to get fed.  Not like the chickens in my midwest hometown.  Those beeches have it easy.
Ludum habemus.

Goose

Keefe

Fr. Corbett Walsh was and is quite the man. On top of knowledge a great friend to the program for many years.

🏀

That was awesome.

Rocky, Spiral, SoCal and topper- just close this board up. It has reached it's apex, all downhill after keefe's post.

Aughnanure

Quote from: ChicosBailBonds on March 04, 2013, 06:35:06 PM
I think it has as much to do with their rating and SOS.  Jerry is an RPI hound.  Michigan State is an 8 in the RPI, Marquette a 12...those 4 spots represent one full line difference.

RPI Forecast has MSU finishing 9th (that's a 3 seed) and MU 15th (that's a 4 seed).  Right in line with what the RPI is saying and the seeds.  He's just going by his numbers.  RPI doesn't care about brand name, or if Izzo is coaching.  Cares about who you played, where you played, did you win or lose.  MSU's forecasted 4th toughest schedule in the country is helping them out....MU solid at 12th SOS



Was responding more to the point about Michigan St still being in the running for a #1 seed. A number #3 for them and #4 for us is perfectly reasonable.
“All men dream; but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act out their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible.” - T.E. Lawrence

LloydMooresLegs

Quote from: NavinRJohnson on March 04, 2013, 08:38:29 PM
Dude, wtf is wrong with you?

Good point, PTM, but I thought I'd try to answer NRJ's question first:

DSM-IV and DSM-5 Criteria for the Narcisstic Personality Disorders

A. A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:
1. Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements).
2. Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love.
3. Believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high- status people (or institutions).
4. Requires excessive admiration.
5. Has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations.
6. Is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends.
7. Lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others.
8. Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her.
9. Shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes.

NavinRJohnson

Quote from: PTM on March 03, 2013, 07:16:06 PM
I opened this thread and expected to see keefe comparing his credentials to every other poster here.

I wasn't familiar with Keene, so I didn't really get this. I do now.

🏀

Quote from: NavinRJohnson on March 04, 2013, 09:21:37 PM
I wasn't familiar with Keene, so I didn't really get this. I do now.

warthog quit the haikus and came out of his shell a bit

MerrittsMustache

Quote from: keefe on March 04, 2013, 08:12:24 PM
Some people refuse to eat oysters while others see the world as their oyster.

Some people define their world by living in three Midwestern cities while others live on three continents and visit all 7.

Some people think getting away is going to the same cabin on the same lake every year while others fly fish Tasmania.

Some people have flown over the Rockies while others climb 7,000 meter mountains on 4 continents.

Some people are satisfied to work in the same company and make the same commute day after day while others leap at the opportunity to work in international outposts of American capitalism.

Some people master the English language while others master three very different Asian languages.

Some people are comforted by the foods they know while others explore the back alleys of Medan, Chengdu, Firenze, Budapest and Lima to discover what the locals eat.

Some people find joy in Christmas at home with extended family gathered round while others prefer the solitude of a Christmas sunset on the Andaman Sea with the spinnaker out on your 36' Yamaha.

Some people buy tricked out Hummers to tame the mean streets of Deer Park while others weld armor plate to the doors of their Hummer to keep RPGs in Samarra from penetrating into the cabin.

Some people think exotic is eating Thai at the strip mall while others eat Bolani while seated on the dirt floor of a Pashtun tribal chieftain's home.

Some people know someone who blew out an ACL skiing while others know several friends who have lost a limb from an IED or taken an AK round.

Some people have death touch them rarely while others live with the specter of death daily.


Life is about choices. There are neither better choices nor wrong choices, for every man must make his own way in this world. My guess is you are not one to eat oysters. You are content with the predictable, the expected, the comfortable. And there is nothing wrong with those choices. It is your life to live in the way you see fit.

One of the biggest problems with the Marquette community in my time was that it was a very homogenous world. Kids were middle class Catholic, a large percentage Irish and most from parochial backgrounds. There was very little diversity and what little there was not embraced. Rather, it was at a minimum avoided for most students were simply uncomfortable with their lack of understanding. In some cases diversity was mocked and ridiculed. I saw and heard this personally. The Black Student Union went on strike three times between the late 60's and the late '70's. And we almost lost our basketball team on one occasion.

I used to meet individually with Fr Corbett Walsh,  Fr John Sheehan, and Br Sebastian Moore in the evenings just to pick their highly educated brains and understand their perspectives on life. Among other things we did discuss the diversity issue at Marquette. Fr Sheehan said he wished the University broadened its recruiting targets from the traditional Catholic ghettos of the Midwest and east coast but that had become the school's bread and butter since the '50's. Fr Walsh said Marquette's mission had settled comfortably into sending back good parishioners to the diocese from when they came. Both Jesuits felt the University was failing in its core Jesuit mission, however. The Jesuit tradition was to train lions to take on the world. Their view was that Marquette was creating lambs whose goal in life was to go to law school. Fr Sheehan said he intentionally would make provocative statements just to see if anyone would challenge him. And sadly, everybody would copiously write down everything he just said, even though it was outrageously incorrect.

Seb Moore was a real inspiration. He was part of that clerical enclave on Kilbourn that refused to live at the Jes Res. He often lamented the suburban white bread blandness of the student body at Marquette. He felt that Marquette students were devoid of passion and intellectual curiosity. They took notes, expected A's and were outraged when they got B's for simply regurgitating back his notes with nary a creative spark anywhere in that blue book. Seb challenged a group of us to do more than just conform. He often had an eclectic group over for dinner and the conversation would go deep into the night. He quoted Byron and urged us all to take Frost's road not taken for that would be the more interesting.

We were married by Fr Corbett Walsh at Gesu. At the end of the ceremony he leaned down to us and whispered, "I expect the two of you to do something good in this world together. Make a difference and dare to be different." No one else heard that but that is how we lived our lives together.

   

Ever eat an ostrich burger?

NavinRJohnson

Quote from: LloydMooresLegs on March 04, 2013, 09:19:29 PM
Good point, PTM, but I thought I'd try to answer NRJ's question first:

DSM-IV and DSM-5 Criteria for the Narcisstic Personality Disorders

A. A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:
1. Has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements).
2. Is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love.
3. Believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high- status people (or institutions).
4. Requires excessive admiration.
5. Has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations.
6. Is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends.
7. Lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others.
8. Is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her.
9. Shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes.


Thanks for the help. I don't know though, I think we've all been around long enough to know that if there's one thing true about people who truly "do something good in the world, make a difference, and dare to be different," it's that they typically make sure they go out of their way to seek attention and tell others about it.

🏀

Quote from: NavinRJohnson on March 04, 2013, 09:33:21 PM
Thanks for the help. I don't know though, I think we've all been around long enough to know that if there's one thing true about people who truly "do something good in the world, make a difference, and dare to be different," it's that they typically make sure they go out of their way to seek attention and tell others about it.

+1

jesmu84

Quote from: PTM on March 04, 2013, 09:12:17 PM
That was awesome.

Rocky, Spiral, SoCal and topper- just close this board up. It has reached it's apex, all downhill after keefe's post.


The Process

Relax. Respect the Process.

LAZER

Wait, that was supposed to be satirical right?

frozena pizza

Good stuff, Keefe.  But you should have ended it with "I don't always drink beer, but when I do, I prefer Dos Equis.  Stay thirsty my friends."

mugrad99

#47
Quote from: MerrittsMustache on March 04, 2013, 09:29:22 PM
Ever eat an ostrich burger?


Joey, have you ever been in a Turkish prison?

IAmMarquette

Quote from: MerrittsMustache on March 04, 2013, 09:29:22 PM
Ever eat an ostrich burger?


They say it has less fat, but you eat more of it.

Coleman

Quote from: indeelaw90 on March 05, 2013, 09:20:23 AM
Joey, have you ever been in a Turkish prison?

Do you like gladiator movies?

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