Vander Blue thoughts? Third straight game in single digits

[ChicosBailBonds]

His last three games

6 points
6 points
7 points

Four of his last 6 games as he also had 7 points against Georgetown?

Doesn't particularly surprise me, nor does it alarm me.  I think we are more balanced when he isn't doing all the scoring.

Thoughts?

[radome]

Last few games have been opposing coaches overplaying/denying him the ball. As long as he accepts the "take one of them out of the play" and the others perform, no problem.

[wadesworld]

His last three games

6 points
6 points
7 points

Four of his last 6 games as he also had 7 points against Georgetown?

Doesn't particularly surprise me, nor does it alarm me.  I think we are more balanced when he isn't doing all the scoring.

Thoughts?

If it neither concerns nor surprises you, then what is the point of starting a thread about it other than to get a rise out of the Vander haters and the Vander apologists?

Between trying to stir things up when Vander isn't playing great like he was earlier this season and searching through the UW forums (I'm guessing that is their 3rd or 4th busiest forum) it makes me wonder if you're some sort of closet Badger fan  

[4everwarriors]

Over the last 3-4 games, Buzz' adjustment of playin' big, coupled with winning, has given this team a new dimension and that's why Vander's poor play hasn't stood out. Unfortunately, for this team to advance in March, Blue has to contribute in more ways than one.

[CTWarrior]

Thought he forced a few things today and did not have his best day on defense.  THis is the first time in a long time where I thought he was hurting the team while on the floor.  I am not too concerned.  Its one game.  I also think it is OK if he doesn't score and facilitates for others.  We truly do have a lot of answers on this team (as long as the question isn't "How do you handle full court pressure defense?")

[Sunbelt15]

Vander will be alright. No need to panic.

[Knight Commission]

His drives to the basket and transition breaks, unfortunately, looked like the past two years. And Too many TO's.  

[Aughnanure]

His last three games

6 points
6 points
7 points

Four of his last 6 games as he also had 7 points against Georgetown?

Doesn't particularly surprise me, nor does it alarm me.  I think we are more balanced when he isn't doing all the scoring.

Thoughts?

He's getting targeted a lot by the other team. Missed some shots but I'm not too worried. He really hasn't had much space as teams have been really guarding him hard...has helped other players break out though.

[keefe]

This team has so many weapons and combinations that we can survive this. And I'm not worried about the guy's game. He'll be back. By the way, there is some idiot in the chat room who has a hard on for VB. He is making some dangerous statements.

[ecompt]

We have been a better team without him on the floor the past two games. Don't think that will be the case come tournament time.

[nyg]

I think he is back to normal against Rutgers.  Better matchups, since Rutgers does not have the larger players as Cuse and ND.

[GGGG]

Defenses are simply focusing on him.  They aren't sagging on him any longer.

[ChicosBailBonds]

If it neither concerns nor surprises you, then what is the point of starting a thread about it other than to get a rise out of the Vander haters and the Vander apologists?

Between trying to stir things up when Vander isn't playing great like he was earlier this season and searching through the UW forums (I'm guessing that is their 3rd or 4th busiest forum) it makes me wonder if you're some sort of closet Badger fan  

If you would have read my posts the last few weeks you would have clearly seen that I want the young man back at MU his senior season.  I fail to see how that is possible when it will benefit us and not Badger fans.  It was good to see that every other poster provided some analysis to the question or some insightful thoughts.

Ironic that you would know what the top Badger boards are..I only know of two..that one and Scout.  Maybe you are a closet Badger fan.  Doh

[DCWarriors04]

Teams have adjusted to him...and it's conference teams too th have seen him before. I have faith that Buzz will help him make the needed adjustments just like with Gardner.

[connie]

Not worried about his scoring, but concerned that he really seemed to be forcing things today.  That cannot continue.

[wadesworld]

If you would have read my posts the last few weeks you would have clearly seen that I want the young man back at MU his senior season.  I fail to see how that is possible when it will benefit us and be a Badger fan.  It was good to see that every other poster provided some analysis to the question or some insightful thoughts.

Ironic that you would know what the top Badger boards are..I only know of two..that one and Scout.  Maybe you are a closet Badger fan.  Doh

It was a joke.

But no, not ironic at all.  Like I said, I'm guessing it's their 3rd or 4th busiest forum.  I have no clue.  It could be by far their busiest, it could be their 1000th busiest.  Just an educated guess based on the fact that just about every school in the country has both a Scout and a Recruit forum, and then there's usually 1 or 2 other separate forums for bigger division 1 schools (like Wisconsin).  I have never visited any Badger forums other than when someone posts a link to them in MUScoop (I don't even visit any other Marquette forums...I spend enough time on here).  Based on how awful that forum looks, I used common sense to guess that it wasn't UW's busiest forum.  Could be wrong, but seems like a pretty good guess.

[Big Daddy Z]

why the questions about VB when the TEAM has a chance to win the BE? Focus on the positives!!!

[keefe]

If it neither concerns nor surprises you, then what is the point of starting a thread about it other than to get a rise out of the Vander haters and the Vander apologists?

Between trying to stir things up when Vander isn't playing great like he was earlier this season and searching through the UW forums (I'm guessing that is their 3rd or 4th busiest forum) it makes me wonder if you're some sort of closet Badger fan  

I can say that I doubt Chicos is a Badger fan. I used to go over to the Badger Board about 6-8 years ago to watch the Bail Bondsman joust with the folks over there. Almost all of it was to defend Tanned Tommy but he was most certainly there as a Warrior. His intense dislike for UW was pretty clear. People used to post on Dodds board that Chicos was posting on BB Frans site. It was great until Fran banned him. So, no, it is highly unlikely he is a closet Badger unless he is one of those deep sleeper agents John le Carre wrote of.

[GoldenZebra]

Ah, I was wondering when this topic was gonna show up. It seems only like yesterday that people were talking about how much he has improved this season.

[jesmu84]

4 reb, 3 assts, 1 stl, 3 TOs (out of 15), 6 pts (should have been 8 with 2 missed FT).  I'm okay with that stat line. Especially considering Otule/Jamil were scoring all our points; no one else had double digits.

[We R Final Four]

Defenses are simply focusing on him.  They aren't sagging on him any longer.

Not true.  At least not today.  He lost his handle and was out of control on his drives mostly.  Of the focus for ND's defense today, he was maybe 3rd. He certainly was not the focus of their D.

[muwarrior69]

Maybe he caught the "I'm in a funk virus" that Jamil has seemed to recovered from. Yes I know, never end a sentence with a preposition.

[MountainCreekHouse]

With the way his shot form looks, I knew his shooting percentage would go down eventually. There is a magical thing called arc he needs to get a grip on.

[GGGG]

Not true.  At least not today.  He lost his handle and was out of control on his drives mostly.  Of the focus for ND's defense today, he was maybe 3rd. He certainly was not the focus of their D.

They are forcing him to put the ball on the floor whereas just a couple weeks ago they were sagging off him and forcing him to shoot.  He's not making good decisions when he puts the ball on the floor.

[avid1010]

Over the last 3-4 games, Buzz' adjustment of playin' big, coupled with winning, has given this team a new dimension and that's why Vander's poor play hasn't stood out.

i believe that's also why his play has suffered.  he's not going to pull the trigger on the 3 ball unless he's wide open, and he's struggling to get to the lane because it's clogged with mu big men.  his mid-range game had been so good...thought he had numerous opportunities to use that part of his game today, but he over-penetrated and forced it...leading to turnovers.  i think he'll see his scoring opportunities on film and come back strong before the tourney.