ND for a single season?

[MUFlutieEffect]

"If unable to join the ACC in 2013-14, the Fighting Irish would consider spending one season in the Catholic 7 league before moving to the ACC in 2014, a source said."

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/9000502/catholic-7-schools-keep-big-east-name-new-league-next-season-according-sources

I, for one, would be furious if the "new" Big East allows ND to play for a single season before bolting for the ACC.  Seems eerily similar to using the C7 & Co. as a minor league system before being "called up" to the Majors.

[GGGG]

I think it's just fine.  Who knows what the future holds?

[Avenue Commons]

I, for one, would be furious if the "new" Big East allows ND to play for a single season before bolting for the ACC.  Seems eerily similar to using the C7 & Co. as a minor league system before being "called up" to the Majors.

No playing with the old Big East remnants would be the minors.

Playing with the new C7 Big East would be, to carry the analogy, getting traded to a contender for the last few months of a season before becoming a free agent and joining a new team the next offseason.

[DCWarriors04]

They had a chance...they can suffer with SMU, Houston, and the rest of CUSA 2.0.

[Dawson Rental]

If Fox wants it.  I'd be grateful enough to Fox to do it.  I'd probably also help with what is shaping up to be a challenging scheduling situation for the non-revenue sports for the first year.

[Buzz Williams' Spillproof Chiclets Cup]

They had their chance.

If they're willing to entertain the notion of a regular home-and-home, then we can talk.

[MU82]

No playing with the old Big East remnants would be the minors.

Playing with the new C7 Big East would be, to carry the analogy, getting traded to a contender for the last few months of a season before becoming a free agent and joining a new team the next offseason.

You are correct, sir!

Heck, I'd bite the bullet and have ND in the league next season on the 1% chance that things don't work out for them in the ACC and they join up with us permanently in part because we were such gracious hosts.

In the meantime, we get to play ND 2 more times next season.

Spite shouldn't overrule such a win-win scenario.

[Marqevans]

By all means yes! Since the 70's, for me, it is by far the most fun game to attend.

[Tugg Speedman]

You are correct, sir!

Heck, I'd bite the bullet and have ND in the league next season on the 1% chance that things don't work out for them in the ACC and they join up with us permanently in part because we were such gracious hosts.

In the meantime, we get to play ND 2 more times next season.

Spite shouldn't overrule such a win-win scenario.

Greater than 1%.  If UNC announces they are going o the B1G some time this year, the odds are 50/50.

[Benny B]

Greater than 1%.  If UNC announces they are going o the B1G some time this year, the odds are 50/50.

I don't think it's quite 50/50 on the latter, but I'd definitely give it 10% on the former.

I get that it's ND hate week, but seriously people... wouldn't you rather hate someone you can play once a year rather than hate a team you never play (e.g. Indiana)?

[keefe]

I don't think it's quite 50/50 on the latter, but I'd definitely give it 10% on the former.

I get that it's ND hate week, but seriously people... wouldn't you rather hate someone you can play once a year rather than hate a team you never play (e.g. Indiana)?

There is a profound difference. Hatred for UND is organic and everlasting while for IU it is artificial and transient.

[CTWarrior]

ND for a season is fine for one year if Creighton needs a year to leave the MVC or something.  That way we have 10 in the league with an 18 game round robin. 

I really hope we find a way to keep ND, Louisville and Cincy on our schedule as much as possible.

[chapman]

If they take no television revenue or a disproportionately small amount, or agree to future scheduling obligations with teams in the new conference then sure.

[Tugg Speedman]

If they take no television revenue or a disproportionately small amount, or agree to future scheduling obligations with teams in the new conference then sure.

Why?  The will get a 1/10 share of one year.  Otherwise it is just petty punishment for no reason.  And if you want to continue to play them after they leave, I would not recommend this kind of stunt.

[TJ]

ND for a season is fine for one year if Creighton needs a year to leave the MVC or something.  That way we have 10 in the league with an 18 game round robin. 

I really hope we find a way to keep ND, Louisville and Cincy on our schedule as much as possible.

I hope we stop playing Louisville.  I'm tired of either getting our brains beaten in or losing a heartbreaker.  How many happy nights have followed a Louisville game in the last 5 years?

[chapman]

Why?  The will get a 1/10 share of one year.  Otherwise it is just petty punishment for no reason.  And if you want to continue to play them after they leave, I would not recommend this kind of stunt.

The pleasure of scheduling high and mighty Notre Dame in the future isn't pay enough to do them a favor without a price.  Unless they commit to scheduling a few other games against New Big East teams that they normally wouldn't bother with.

[hairy worthen]

You are correct, sir!

Heck, I'd bite the bullet and have ND in the league next season on the 1% chance that things don't work out for them in the ACC and they join up with us permanently in part because we were such gracious hosts.

In the meantime, we get to play ND 2 more times next season.

Spite shouldn't overrule such a win-win scenario.

It's not about spite. It's about stability. The C-7 was formed because of the instability caused by teams bolting for more money. How hypocritical to allow a team in for a year that they know is going to bolt for more money.  If they want to join permanently for basketball and other sports fine, but why form a new conference and right off the bat set a precedence of having a team leave after the first year of existence.

[Bocephys]

I think it's just fine.  Who knows what the future holds?

Agreed, take them for a year and see what may or may not happen in the ACC.  They may like what we bring to the table, and having Notre Dame around to hate is never a bad thing.

[hairy worthen]

Agreed, take them for a year and see what may or may not happen in the ACC.  They may like what we bring to the table, and having Notre Dame around to hate is never a bad thing.

If the ACC fails or declines badly, Notre Dame will either join the Big Ten or other high profile conference or stay independent in football and join the c-7 for basketball. Either way, ND playing for one year in the new c-7 makes no difference in their decision. They will do what is best for them and/or what makes them the most money. 

Notre Dame will always be around to hate.

[Benny B]

It's not about spite. It's about stability. The C-7 was formed because of the instability caused by teams bolting for more money. How hypocritical to allow a team in for a year that they know is going to bolt for more money.  If they want to join permanently for basketball and other sports fine, but why form a new conference and right off the bat set a precedence of having a team leave after the first year of existence.

This is entirely different... everyone knows up front what the deal is with ND.  Nobody is being caught off guard.  ND leaving in a year isn't going to trigger any other defections or create instability.  In fact, having ND in for one year could create stability going forward by helping the league to get off to a better start.

I hate to say it, but ND would be doing a huge favor to the C7 by joining for a year.  And the C7 would be doing a huge favor by helping ND avoid having to play in a sandbox with SMU and Tulane next year.  It's a win-win.

[MU82]

It's not about spite. It's about stability. The C-7 was formed because of the instability caused by teams bolting for more money. How hypocritical to allow a team in for a year that they know is going to bolt for more money.  If they want to join permanently for basketball and other sports fine, but why form a new conference and right off the bat set a precedence of having a team leave after the first year of existence.

Letting ND in for one year knowing full well they will leave is not a sign of instability. Instability -- and the ill feelings it causes -- stems from not knowing what evil lurks. In this case, we know the evil (ND) and know exactly how long it will lurk (one year).

I'd be happy to get a sold-out Bradley Center and two more shots to beat ND. And again, maybe just maybe a few dominoes will fall and ND will end up back in our league.

I see zero instability and zero downside.

[frozena pizza]

I hope we stop playing Louisville.  I'm tired of either getting our brains beaten in or losing a heartbreaker.  How many happy nights have followed a Louisville game in the last 5 years?

We did beat them last year (before losing twice).  I was pretty happy after the 21 point win over them in 2010, capped off with DJO's offensive rebound dunk.

[frozena pizza]

Letting ND in for one year knowing full well they will leave is not a sign of instability. Instability -- and the ill feelings it causes -- stems from not knowing what evil lurks. In this case, we know the evil (ND) and know exactly how long it will lurk (one year).

I'd be happy to get a sold-out Bradley Center and two more shots to beat ND. And again, maybe just maybe a few dominoes will fall and ND will end up back in our league.

I see zero instability and zero downside.

Exactly.  Like it or not, this is a great matchup and rivalry for us and I'd like to keep playing them as long as we can.

[Tugg Speedman]

The pleasure of scheduling high and mighty Notre Dame in the future isn't pay enough to do them a favor without a price.  Unless they commit to scheduling a few other games against New Big East teams that they normally wouldn't bother with.

Tomorrow game is expected to see near 19,000 in the BC, near an all-time record.  That is not because they are ranked #22.  No, the huge crowd is coming to see us play the name ND on the front of the jersey.

I know you detest ND, fact is they are a money making machine for themselves and the schools that play them.  Fortunately we have a good relationship and long history with them and they will go out of their way to schedule us in the future.  And MU will make good money off this relationship.  Now is not the time to burn bridges.

Now if you want to mail Larry Williams a $500k check a year with the stipulations that he screw ND, that's different.  Until that check shows up on LW's desk, keep the friends that put money in your pocket happy.

[Dawson Rental]

There is a profound difference. Hatred for UND is organic and everlasting while for IU it is artificial and transient.

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