Diamond Stone

[Coleman]

Right, I think to be a full-time grad student you only need to take 2 classes a semester.

[BCHoopster]

Basically his tuition will really be little, can stay in one of his teammates rooms, so if that is the case, his out of pocket expense will be small considering MU really gave him like
$60 to $70K for two years, good deal.  He will see sometime next year, depending who does not make it back.

[Stronghold]

Does it matter either way?  He won't use a scholarship regardless, and doubtful he'd get much more than Frozena minutes anyway.  Huge shot against Cuse and great decoy against Butler, but we're stacked at his position next year.

I'm very thankful for those 2 contributions this year.  At least those were meaningful unlike many guys who don't see a lot of minutes.

[BCHoopster]

I always said that lets see how he does against Syracuse, he brought a dead listless team back in the game, so he helped.  I can not think of anything that Juan has done and he plays
every game.  I have not been much of a fan of Derrick either, but he helped last game and he will have to help on Larkin this week.

[jficke13]

Basically his tuition will really be little, can stay in one of his teammates rooms, so if that is the case, his out of pocket expense will be small considering MU really gave him like
$60 to $70K for two years, good deal.  He will see sometime next year, depending who does not make it back.

It won't be nothing. It's $1,025/credit

http://www.marquette.edu/about/studenttuition.shtml

[akmarq]

I can not think of anything that Juan has done and he plays
every game.  I have not been much of a fan of Derrick either, but he helped last game and he will have to help on Larkin this week.

You know, other than rebound well, keep Jamil out of foul trouble, play defense, and throw that great assist against Butler.

[Silkk the Shaka]

I'm very thankful for those 2 contributions this year.  At least those were meaningful unlike many guys who don't see a lot of minutes.

Totally agree and wasn't knocking the guy.  Just saying he is going off scholarship either way, and likely would see even less minutes than he saw this year so whether he stays or goes is not a huge concern.  But he seems to enjoy the team and the game, and he was planning on walking on the past 2 years and luckily got them for free so he's in much better shape $ wise than he though he would be.  Doubt he leaves, and we really couldn't ask for a better walk-on.

[Litehouse]

It won't be nothing. It's $1,025/credit

http://www.marquette.edu/about/studenttuition.shtml

Hypothetically, isn't that a potential option for Otule next year also, depending on how things play out and if we need the extra scholarship?

[jficke13]

Probably, but 6ish - 12ish grand isn't change in the couch cushions stuff. Also, I'd kind of hope that someone mentions that a graduate degree (if they earned it) isn't necessarily worth the investment. Getting part of one is worth even less.

[The Equalizer]

Basically his tuition will really be little, can stay in one of his teammates rooms, so if that is the case, his out of pocket expense will be small considering MU really gave him like
$60 to $70K for two years, good deal.  He will see sometime next year, depending who does not make it back.

I'm pretty sure this wouldn't work. The NCAA rules don't permit benefits not available to any other student--and I doubt MU lets students stay rent-free in another student's room.

Probably, but 6ish - 12ish grand isn't change in the couch cushions stuff. Also, I'd kind of hope that someone mentions that a graduate degree (if they earned it) isn't necessarily worth the investment. Getting part of one is worth even less.

6ish to 12ish?  Have you checked MU's tuition lately?  Try 45ish to 50ish.

http://www.marquette.edu/about/studenttuition.shtml
$34,400 tuition + $10,730 room & board + $440 fees.  Plus whatever next year's tuition increase will be.


Sorry--didn't realize this was re: Graduate tuition. 

[jficke13]

6ish to 12ish?  Have you checked MU's tuition lately?  Try 45ish to 50ish.

http://www.marquette.edu/about/studenttuition.shtml
$34,400 tuition + $10,730 room & board + $440 fees.  Plus whatever next year's tuition increase will be.

And, no, you can't just sign up for six part time credit hours--to be eligible to play D1 you have to be enrolled full time.

My estimate was based on the guy above who said that full time grad school was 2 classes. (2 classes x 3 credit hours per) * $1,025/graduate credit hour as listed on this website http://www.marquette.edu/about/studenttuition.shtml

Is that right? No clue. Seems low to me too.

[Eldon]

To be a full-time grad student at MU, you need to have 7 credits.  It may be different if you are also working for the university, say, as a TA or RA, but I doubt Thomas could take classes, be a TA, and be a bball player so hed likely have to take 7 credits.

[The Equalizer]

My estimate was based on the guy above who said that full time grad school was 2 classes. (2 classes x 3 credit hours per) * $1,025/graduate credit hour as listed on this website http://www.marquette.edu/about/studenttuition.shtml

Is that right? No clue. Seems low to me too.

Doing a little more research:

http://www.marquette.edu/mucentral/bursar/documents/RateGuide13-14spreads.pdf

If I'm reading the MU cost details correctly, they don't specify separate full-time graduate and undergraduate tutition. The header is just "Full-time tuition rates".  In fact, they incude the doctoral phase of the PT program in this chart.   

So I think a full time grad student is playing 17,100 per semester.

[Eldon]

Doing a little more research:

http://www.marquette.edu/mucentral/bursar/documents/RateGuide13-14spreads.pdf

If I'm reading the MU cost details correctly, they don't specify separate full-time graduate and undergraduate tutition. The header is just "Full-time tuition rates".  In fact, they incude the doctoral phase of the PT program in this chart.   

So I think a full time grad student is playing 17,100 per semester.

No, it's about half of that.  Grad credits are about $900-$1000 per credit

[klyrish]

I cannot believe tuition is THAT high now.

...and they still have the nerve to call me every couple of days asking for donations.

[g0lden3agle]

I cannot believe tuition is THAT high now.

...and they still have the nerve to call me every couple of days asking for donations.

That donation can go towards a students tuition, you can do your part to help out those who are racking up obscene amounts of debt

[bilsu]

Totally agree and wasn't knocking the guy.  Just saying he is going off scholarship either way, and likely would see even less minutes than he saw this year so whether he stays or goes is not a huge concern.  But he seems to enjoy the team and the game, and he was planning on walking on the past 2 years and luckily got them for free so he's in much better shape $ wise than he though he would be.  Doubt he leaves, and we really couldn't ask for a better walk-on.

You need seniors to teach the freshmen the ropes. Whether he plays or not he is important.

[Newsdreams]

I cannot believe tuition is THAT high now.

...and they still have the nerve to call me every couple of days asking for donations.

Cost of attending (COA) is around $43K. Have a son who is a senior and they still call for donations 

[klyrish]

That donation can go towards a students tuition, you can do your part to help out those who are racking up obscene amounts of debt

I'm aware. I'm still also paying off my own debt so I'mma get mines first.

[chapman]

He came prepared to pay his way for three years, I'm sure one will be doable for him.  Wouldn't even say it's a certainty he won't get a scholarship; there's a decent chance that two players leave and nobody additional is added which ends up leaving a scholarship open.

[Jay Bee]

Does Tubby's departure from Minnesota now give MU a better shot at Ellenson?

Potentially the opposite.

[Coleman]

Grad student tuition is usually much less than undergrad, as someone pointed out in the rate per credit. If Jake has a bachelor's degree in hand he would be entitled to go that route, assuming his academic qualifications are up to snuff. This is why I suggested that earlier.

He would not have to pay the full undergrad rate, so stop using that in the discussion.

When I attended Loyola, full time grad student meant 6 credits per semester. Looks like at Marquette its 7. What that probably means is two classes (grad classes meet once a week for 2.5 hours), and maybe one independent study or something where he reads a couple books and meets with a professor every couple weeks in office hours. Its doable.  Yeah, its not chump change, still probably 15k for the year, but its preferable to an undergrad situation, and might be worth it to him. Obviously this depends on his family situation as well. Maybe his parents are in a position to cover it. Who knows.

[jsglow]

I cannot believe tuition is THAT high now.

...and they still have the nerve to call me every couple of days asking for donations.

By the way, 'Tuition Runs out Day' is typically in late February.  12,000 kids at MU (8,000 of which are Undergrads) absolutely depend on each and every one of YOU to get from that day to May.  If you haven't given a few bucks recently, a little conscience examining might be in order.  We are all one family.  (End of soapbox but it's important.)

[MerrittsMustache]

By the way, 'Tuition Runs out Day' is typically in late February.  12,000 kids at MU (8,000 of which are Undergrads) absolutely depend on each and every one of YOU to get from that day to May.  If you haven't given a few bucks recently, a little conscience examining might be in order.  We are all one family.  (End of soapbox but it's important.)

Good point but there aren't 12,000 students paying their own way through MU. I'd say it's 25% at the most.

[jficke13]

By the way, 'Tuition Runs out Day' is typically in late February.  12,000 kids at MU (8,000 of which are Undergrads) absolutely depend on each and every one of YOU to get from that day to May.  If you haven't given a few bucks recently, a little conscience examining might be in order.  We are all one family.  (End of soapbox but it's important.)

I'd be more inclined to give if they would guarantee that 100% of the donation went to a student. I don't want so much as a penny going to administrative bloat.