St. John's, Syracuse agree to play

[Tugg Speedman]

St. John's, Syracuse agree to play

http://espn.go.com/new-york/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/8898690/syracuse-orange-st-john-red-storm-agree-play-2013-14-2014-15

NEW YORK -- St. John's and Syracuse aren't done playing hoops against each other.

The two schools announced Wednesday that they will play a home-and-home men's basketball series in the 2013-14 and 2014-15 seasons. The Red Storm will host the Orange at Madison Square Garden on Dec. 15, 2013. The date at the Carrier Dome the following season is yet to be determined.

"The rivalry with St. John's has been one of the strongest for our program," Syracuse coach Jim Boeheim said in a statement released by the schools.

Added St. John's coach Steve Lavin: "The Johnnies and Cuse rivalry is now more than a century old and deserves to continue."

Both schools are among the top 10 in college basketball history in wins and winning percentage. Both were among the founding members of the Big East in 1979. But Syracuse is departing for the ACC after this season, and St. John's is among seven non-football schools that have also announced their intentions to leave and form a new league.

The two teams will meet one more time as Big East members in the regular season, on Feb. 10 at the Carrier Dome. Syracuse (18-2, 6-1) entered Wednesday night tied for first with Marquette, while St. John's (13-7, 5-3) is tied for third with Louisville.

That will be the 87th meeting between the teams in a series that dates back to 1912.

[Tugg Speedman]

Who do we do this with?

Three options:

* ND
* Louisville
* Cincy

(ruling out Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers and WVU, UConn, USF)

Does it happen?

Thoughts?

[setyoursightsnorth]

Who do we do this with?

Three options:

* ND
* Louisville
* Cincy

(ruling out Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers and WVU, UConn, USF)

Does it happen?

Thoughts?

Why? I think that would be insane, a fantastic series. Or is the history not there?

[chapman]

Why? I think that would be insane, a fantastic series. Or is the history not there?

We aren't located in New York state and we give them too much competition.  Boeheim would never have it.  But ND, Louisville, and Cincy are more traditional rivals that we should be making more of a priority to schedule.

[setyoursightsnorth]

We aren't located in New York state and we give them too much competition.  Boeheim would never have it.  But ND, Louisville, and Cincy are more traditional rivals that we should be making more of a priority to schedule.

If the choice is between those 3, then I think it should be ND. Just something about that school gets me more riled up than Cincy or Louisville.

[bilsu]

ND

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It's ND if they will accept. I bet they want it with DePaul though.

[honkytonk]

Why? I think that would be insane, a fantastic series. Or is the history not there?

Yeah...no history there at all. I, too, think it will be ND but prob not every year since they will throw in DePaul from time to time.

[chapman]

I'd think ND, UL, UC in that order.   

It's ND if they will accept. I bet they want it with DePaul though.

I think they'd want us...DePaul might be pathetic enough to have them demanding 2 for 1.  Looking at ticket sales and offering ratings to a network I'd imagine it's got to make us much more attractive to them.

[Norm]

It would be great to continue the series with ND, but I'm not quite so sure the ND nation feels that MU is a big rivalry of theirs. Yes, they have played us a ton in their history, but since Al stepped down, and especially since Digger left, the younger ND fans do not really see us as a major rival. The MU fans definitely get into this rivalry much, much more then the ND fans.

[🏀]

I'd think ND, UL, UC in that order.   


I think they'd want us...DePaul might be pathetic enough to have them demanding 2 for 1.  Looking at ticket sales and offering ratings to a network I'd imagine it's got to make us much more attractive to them.

A ND game in Chicago is a slam dunk for them.

[honkytonk]

It would be great to continue the series with ND, but I'm not quite so sure the ND nation feels that MU is a big rivalry of theirs. Yes, they have played us a ton in their history, but since Al stepped down, and especially since Digger left, the younger ND fans do not really see us as a major rival. The MU fans definitely get into this rivalry much, much more then the ND fans.

And quite frankly, I dont think games like these are scheduled with the sole intention of pleasing fans. SJU needs crowds at MSG. The last time they played Duke there, the game only drew 13k people. I think they realize they need SU and prob UConn to make it a big-time game. And SU prob wanted to do it for recruiting exposure...and then prob pleasing their huge alum base there.

ND will want trips to Chicago for recruiting exposure and to please their alum base. Im not sure what a team gets out of playing at ND though.

[Avenue Commons]

Who do we do this with?

Three options:

* ND
* Louisville
* Cincy

(ruling out Syracuse, Pitt, Rutgers and WVU, UConn, USF)

Does it happen?

Thoughts?

Notre Dame by a mile. We've played each other for decades.

Louisville and Cincy are great home and homes if we can get them, but the Marquette-DePaul-Notre Dame triumvirate is a key part of our college basketball soul.

[keefe]

the Marquette-DePaul-Notre Dame triumvirate is a key part of our college basketball soul.

Bob Newhart would say it is a rectangle

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[brewcity77]

In order of desirability, I'd say...

1) Notre Dame (history and both Catholic)
2) Louisville (great rivalry, perennial top-15)
3) Cincinnati

In terms of likelihood, I'd say...

1) Notre Dame
2) Cincinnati
3)
4)
5)
11) Louisville

I would love UL, but I don't think it's gonna happen.

[Wade for President]

Who do we do this with?

In my book, it's L'ville...and it's not even close.

Incredibly tight games, crazy comebacks, last second shots, etc.  Not to mention the Cards are consistently a Top 10 program (could use the RPI boost the next few years).

[Tugg Speedman]

How about a Thanksgiving tourney every year in Chicago between MU, DePaul, Louisville and ND.

Two games on consecutive nights.  We do not play DePaul because we are in the same conference.  ND does not play Louisville because they are in the same conference.

So both DePaul and MU play Louisville and ND on consecutive nights.

[akmarq]

Take Louisville over ND - they're just a better program and we should be playing the best.

[Golden Avalanche]

We aren't located in New York state and we give them too much competition.  Boeheim would never have it.  But ND, Louisville, and Cincy are more traditional rivals that we should be making more of a priority to schedule.

Hahahahaha.

Cuse has owned Marquette since we entered the Big East except once so let's not make up a reason for why this will never happen.

Boewhine won't be making the schedule in two years anyway so people shouldn't concern themselves too much with trying to get on the Orangemen's schedule. If we secure one series with a former conference partner it'd be a coup.

[chapman]

Hahahahaha.

Cuse has owned Marquette since we entered the Big East except once so let's not make up a reason for why this will never happen.

They've beaten us 71% of the time.  For their annual cupcake march in non-conference play they seem to prefer closer to a 98% chance of winning.

[murocky01]

Hahahahaha.

Cuse has owned Marquette since we entered the Big East except once so let's not make up a reason for why this will never happen.

Boewhine won't be making the schedule in two years anyway so people shouldn't concern themselves too much with trying to get on the Orangemen's schedule. If we secure one series with a former conference partner it'd be a coup.

I seem to remember us beating them twice in one year, on our way to the sweet 16.  But I agree, they will not be scheduling a home and home with MU anytime soon.

[Golden Avalanche]

I seem to remember us beating them twice in one year, on our way to the sweet 16.  But I agree, they will not be scheduling a home and home with MU anytime soon.

That is correct. Forgot about that Janaury game when Cuse shot lights out and still lost.

My main point is chapman seems to feel Cuse won't schedule MU because we give them too much competition even though the series hasn't been that tightly contested.

[MarsupialMadness]

I'd like to see it with Louisville, and I think Pitino would like it to be Marquette.

[Coleman]

ND has more history with us, but I think Louisville has a better chance of offering us an elite opponent on an annual basis and is more beneficial to RPI and SOS, tourney resume, etc.

[buckchuckler]

Take Louisville over ND - they're just a better program and we should be playing the best.

Bingo.  Louisville.  They have everything one would want.  Great program, historic rivalry, epic game history.  Louisville is the one.