Tory Miller - 2014 Recruit offered by Marquette

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Marquette just offered 2014 New Hampton (NH) big man Tory Miller. @MillerTory

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/basketball/recruiting/player/_/id/112723/tory-miller

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Tory-Miller-114157

http://scouthoops.scout.com/a.z?s=75&p=8&c=1&nid=4763189

[MU82]

Interesting that Marquette wasn't on his list on any of those sites.

[Jay Bee]

(Nov 5, 2012) Gophers, Husker Target Tory Miller Reclassifying to 2014

[77ncaachamps]

(Nov 5, 2012) Gophers, Husker Target Tory Miller Reclassifying to 2014

What's behind all of the reclassifying that's been happening recently?
Is there a deadline that's approaching?
Are the recruits waiting for the new conferences to take hold?
Is the 2014 class that weak?

[Marqus Howard]

Interesting that Marquette wasn't on his list on any of those sites.

Probably because we just offered him. He's not highly ranked so I doubt his profile is updated often.

[strotty]

Probably because we just offered him. He's not highly ranked so I doubt his profile is updated often.

Tooting my own horn here, but we had him in yesterday's roundup. He's an animal around the basket. With no Gardner or Otule around in 2014, I would guess Marquette finds itself a center in this class. Have to think Miller would be one of those under-the-radar bigs Buzz unearths.

[honkytonk]

Have to think Miller would be one of those under-the-radar bigs Buzz unearths.

Ummmm....no. There is nothing under-the-radar about ANY kid that plays for New Hampton. Those kids are showcased all throughout the season due to the schedule they play (ND Prep, Tilton, Huntington Prep, Brewster, etc) and their own reputation. Every player in their starting lineup holds offers from the A-10 on up (they have a 6-9 soph that is already racking up the offers).

[Marqus Howard]

Tooting my own horn here, but we had him in yesterday's roundup. He's an animal around the basket. With no Gardner or Otule around in 2014, I would guess Marquette finds itself a center in this class. Have to think Miller would be one of those under-the-radar bigs Buzz unearths.

My bad, Strotty, didn't remember seeing his name. I wonder if there are any other JUCO bigs that could come in for two years so that a guy like Miller or O'Mara can come in and develop their game a little first... or to bridge the gap between Davante/Otule and Stone.

[strotty]

Ummmm....no. There is nothing under-the-radar about ANY kid that plays for New Hampton. Those kids are showcased all throughout the season due to the schedule they play (ND Prep, Tilton, Huntington Prep, Brewster, etc) and their own reputation. Every player in their starting lineup holds offers from the A-10 on up (they have a 6-9 soph that is already racking up the offers).

Thanks for that. Just knew Vonleh went there, didn't know they were a showcase school. Just given his ranking and other schools on him, seems like Buzz may have gotten on an up-and-comer early.

[Jay Bee]

What's behind all of the reclassifying that's been happening recently?
Is there a deadline that's approaching?
Are the recruits waiting for the new conferences to take hold?
Is the 2014 class that weak?

There are changes on the horizon but that wasn't the issue with Tory and the changes may actually cause kids to try and graduate sooner than they might have otherwise. 

I think what happened with Miller is that he still hadn't gotten the level of interest desired by the time the signing period was on the horizon (see article - Gophers, Huskers, etc.). He was injured a few years ago and is a big kid... still raw (nh) so I think the extra year makes a lot of sense in his particular case.

[GGGG]

Or he didn't have his academics in order because he goes to a prep school right?

[tower912]

We are going to need size.   This kid and O'Mara would be fine.  Stone would be finer.  

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We are going to need size.   This kid and O'Mara would be fine.  Stone would be finer.  

Don't forget about Paul White. Saw him at a few games already.

[Dawson Rental]

We are going to need size.   This kid and O'Mara would be fine.  Stone would be finer.  

I hope that I'm wrong, but I think that ND is close to wrapping O'Mara up.

Could Tory Miller be Tony Miller trapped in a big man's body?

[GGGG]

Don't forget about Paul White. Saw him at a few games already.

Isn't White more of a wing in the Wilson mode though?

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Isn't White more of a wing in the Wilson mode though?

Yeah, but he has size!

I'm not sold on O'Mara. Had Notre Dame offered him yet? Seems like they're the best judge of big awkward traditionals from the Chicago suburbs.

[Chicos' Buzz Scandal Countdown]

There are changes on the horizon but that wasn't the issue with Tory and the changes may actually cause kids to try and graduate sooner than they might have otherwise. 

I think what happened with Miller is that he still hadn't gotten the level of interest desired by the time the signing period was on the horizon (see article - Gophers, Huskers, etc.). He was injured a few years ago and is a big kid... still raw (nh) so I think the extra year makes a lot of sense in his particular case.

Sounds like others know more than I do... is there a limit on age before you begin to lose eligibility? Could I take classes and play until I'm 25 then start at MU?

[boyonthedock]

I'm sure theres ways to be an old guy in the NCAA. See: Chris Weinke in football, Bernard James got drafted last year when he was 28 out of college after he spent 6 years in the Air Force.

[Jay Bee]

Paul White is an intriguing player, but he and Tory Miller are very different in terms of what they bring to the court and how they operate. Haven't seen Tory at all this fall (i.e., at New Hampton; but, for AAU he ran w/Kansas '13 PG recruit Connor Frankamp, a very good traditional), but I've heard he's improved out east (not surprisingly) and last week more than held his own when Vonleh was on the bench.

Sounds like others know more than I do... is there a limit on age before you begin to lose eligibility? Could I take classes and play until I'm 25 then start at MU?

There are nuances throughout the bylaws and rules are different depending on the sport.. BUT. I think the answers are: age limit - generally no age limit... but, take classes and play until you're 25 and then start at MU? No.

A little outside of my area of expertise, but (with exceptions for religious cults, military and other things): You get one year after "your class" graduates. This comes into play with a "post-grad year". So, if you started high school and in four years the school year would end with 2010-11, you would still have the 2011-12 year to "play with" and not cost yourself any NCAA eligibility.

Now, when you start college your 5-year clock begins to run. You've got 5 years to use your 4 years of eligibility. So, you couldn't hang out at college for years, then start playing sports.

For a guy like ZFB who stays in "high school" for many years, or if someone goes off and lives life away from school after high school for several years you potentially could begin playing at any age.

However - after that one year period past your 'normal' high school graduation date (i.e., 4 years after you start high school + 1), if you're involved in any organized competition in a given calendar year, that will cost you a year of collegiate eligibility. "Organized competition" means just about anything.. if you join some dumb rec league at the YMCA and they keep score with little flip cards during the game, that's organized competition.

So, if you're playing anywhere (in organized competition, which again has a *BROAD* definition ) past your normal high school graduation date + one year, you're taking away a year of collegiate eligibility.

If you were some weird little freak that graduated high school and then lived in your mom's basement and shot buckets by yourself in the driveway for two decades, then decided to try out college at age 38, I believe* you would be good to go in terms of eligibility.

Now, understand there are big changes on the horizon with regard to getting academically eligible for college. Could get interesting (ugly) in a couple of years.

Also, bylaws change every year. The above is based on the 2012-13.

[Jay Bee]

Oh, also. Keep an eye on Reid Travis as a '14 forward possibility.

[Jammer3]

Or he didn't have his academics in order because he goes to a prep school right?

Let Me Just Clear This Crazy Statement Up, His Academics Are Fine, It's A Blessing By Being At A Prep School To Get A Another Year To Play, He Was Injured His Freshman Year So For Basketball Reasons It Makes Perfect Sense, It Was HIS Choice To Recommit To 2014 Class. ESPN Isn't Given Him A Fair Ranking & Hope They Update Him From A Humerus 66 To A Better Ranking Score, New Hampton Has Great Academics & Great Coaching.

[JakeBarnes]

Let Me Just Clear This Crazy Statement Up, His Academics Are Fine, It's A Blessing By Being At A Prep School To Get A Another Year To Play, He Was Injured His Freshman Year So For Basketball Reasons It Makes Perfect Sense, It Was HIS Choice To Recommit To 2014 Class. ESPN Isn't Given Him A Fair Ranking & Hope They Update Him From A Humerus 66 To A Better Ranking Score, New Hampton Has Great Academics & Great Coaching.

I believe crow has been served...


That being said, I'd love to see this kid in gold and blue.  Has the grinder mentality inside to finish at the rim and  as they say in Space Jam "you can't practice getting taller, boys."  Another year gives him another year to develop his body.  Hopefully buzz's early push helps!

[brinsler]

Why no love from Mizzou or KU?

[GGGG]

Let Me Just Clear This Crazy Statement Up, His Academics Are Fine, It's A Blessing By Being At A Prep School To Get A Another Year To Play, He Was Injured His Freshman Year So For Basketball Reasons It Makes Perfect Sense, It Was HIS Choice To Recommit To 2014 Class. ESPN Isn't Given Him A Fair Ranking & Hope They Update Him From A Humerus 66 To A Better Ranking Score, New Hampton Has Great Academics & Great Coaching.

Thank you.  I wasn't meaning to insult him, I was just asking a question.