26th in AP poll, one vote behind Miami

[dwaderoy2004]

Nm
Added: sorry...missed the MJS blog thread.

[Aughnanure]

Miami?...really? Guess I haven't being paying the amount of attention I thought I had been.

[Tugg Speedman]

Miami is 25th with 93 points
We are 26th with 92 points.

Miami has Duke this week.  Fair to expect a loss.  They also have Fla State.  They should win that.

We only have Providence this week.

So, if Miami loses to Duke and we don't lay an egg against Providence, we should be ranked again next week.

[BM1090]

#24 Notre Dame just got nailed at home by Georgetown. If we beat Providence we should be in one way or another

---Edited for accuracy----

[Tugg Speedman]

#24 Georgetown just got nailed at home by Georgetown. If we beat Providence we should be in one way or another

To correct #24 ND

And you're correct.  Win Saturday and we're back in

[chren21]

I have to ask this question.  Is there any relation to the fact that Miami has a game vs duke tomorrow night on espn and those ads for the game look MUCH better with a 25 next to their name????

[Tugg Speedman]

I have to ask this question.  Is there any relation to the fact that Miami has a game vs duke tomorrow night on espn and those ads for the game look MUCH better with a 25 next to their name????

Don't have to ask, this is indeed the case.  Sportswriters all know the schedule and they are only too happy to play along.

[buckchuckler]

That seems a little unfair.  Miami is 13-3 and 4-0 in ACC play.  They have wins over MSU, Carolina and MD.  They have an RPI of 4, and are 26 in the other poll.

They do have 2 bad losses to Florida Gulf Coast and Indiana State, but have won 5 in a row.  Will they be there at the end of the season or be able to hang with Duke?  Who knows, but I don't think it is all conspiracy to think they would be ranked.

MU was 25 and lost.  It is hard to expect they would stay in the top 25. 

[GGGG]

Don't have to ask, this is indeed the case.  Sportswriters all know the schedule and they are only too happy to play along.

Really?  The AP is in bed with ESPN to make the television match-ups more marketable?

Is there really no end to the conspiracy theories?  Especially when I doubt most sportswriters actually know the schedule.

[Tugg Speedman]

Really?  The AP is in bed with ESPN to make the television match-ups more marketable?

Is there really no end to the conspiracy theories?  Especially when I doubt most sportswriters actually know the schedule.

Not the AP, the writers that vote.  How many of the writers have compensation related to college basketball TV ratings.  Answer, nearly all of them.  So, they are merely voting their vested interest.  No one has to tell them to do this, it comes naturally.

I'm not describing a conspiracy theory.  I'm describing a natural bias.

[GGGG]

How many of the writers have compensation related to college basketball TV ratings.  Answer, nearly all of them. 

What?

[Tugg Speedman]

Look at the list of voters and how many of them appear on TV talking about college basketball (local or national).  Either as a color guy, studio analyst or occasional guest on college basketball shows (again, local or national).

They do better if college basketball has higher ratings.

[Coleman]

The consipiracy theories are insane. We dropped out of the Top 25 because we lost. Miami is just as deserving as we are. End of story.

Beat Provy at home and we're back in. I think we are beating treated pretty equitably.

[GGGG]

So your theory is that writers get more money for appearing on television, and that since they get more money for appearing on television, they have a vested interest for getting higher ratings and promoting certain games.  And they then vote based on upcoming week match ups.  

However, if you look at the poll, Dick Vitale didn't rank Miami and the game is on his network.  Seth Davis didn't either.  And outside of John Feinstein and Michael Hunt, I don't recognize a single name on there.

I think your theory has some holes in it.

[Tugg Speedman]

So your theory is that writers get more money for appearing on television, and that since they get more money for appearing on television, they have a vested interest for getting higher ratings and promoting certain games.  And they then vote based on upcoming week match ups.  

However, if you look at the poll, Dick Vitale didn't rank Miami and the game is on his network.  Seth Davis didn't either.  And outside of John Feinstein and Michael Hunt, I don't recognize a single name on there.

I think your theory has some holes in it.

Not a theory ... they do get paid to go on TV and talk about college Bball.  They do not so it for free.

You have a link for the writers poll?

[GGGG]

Not a theory ... they do get paid to go on TV and talk about college Bball.  They do not so it for free.

You have a link for the writers poll?

I meant to include it.  You can look at the results by voter.

http://collegebasketball.ap.org/herald-dispatch/poll

[boyonthedock]

This is the most bonkers thing I have read here in quite a while.

[4everwarriors]

This is the most bonkers thing I have read here in quite a while.

For real?

[boyonthedock]

For real?

A conspiracy by dozens of AP writers that resulted in a one point vote 'win' by miami over marquette to make a miami game more desirable for tv this week? Yeah, this is insane thinking. Just batshit.

[Bocephys]

A conspiracy by dozens of AP writers that resulted in a one point vote 'win' by miami over marquette to make a miami game more desirable for tv this week? Yeah, this is insane thinking. Just batcrap.

But not even in the top ten of insane things I've read on this board.

[boyonthedock]

To each his own there, I guess. To assert there would have to be a conspiracy so vast and so coordinated as to result in a point edging out of one team over another (who dropped ONE spot from 25 to 26, standard operating procedure for a loss) for a coveted #25 is something that would take SO much effort for a result SO inconsequential it boggles the mind. And its not even like ESPN is using its own polls any more! This is imagining demons for no reason other than to fight them.

[lab_warrior]

But not even in the top ten of insane things I've read on this board.

No, it wouldn't even come in, let's say, the top 25. 

/rim shot
/HEY-O

[Warriors10]

To each his own there, I guess. To assert there would have to be a conspiracy so vast and so coordinated as to result in a point edging out of one team over another (who dropped ONE spot from 25 to 26, standard operating procedure for a loss) for a coveted #25 is something that would take SO much effort for a result SO inconsequential it boggles the mind. And its not even like ESPN is using its own polls any more! This is imagining demons for no reason other than to fight them.

ESPN isn't associated with the USA Today Poll anymore.  Plus the coaches poll (USA Today, old ESPN) is highly overrated and biased because frankly coaches don't pay that great of attention to teams outside of the top 10 or not in their conference (during this time of the year).  The AP poll is a better representation, but in the end who cares.  Polls are just things us fans can gloat about, but matter very little.  I'd rather be alone in 2nd place in the BE (granted I'd rather be first) and unranked then tied for 4th, 2 GB behind 2nd, and ranked in the top 25.

[buckchuckler]

Yup Miami was sure over rated.....

[Tugg Speedman]

Wow! When was the no. 1 team, or even Duke, spanked this bad before?