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Tugg Speedman

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Buzz's Starters
« on: January 20, 2013, 05:31:03 PM »
Buzz does not start his best five, the best five are the guys on the floor at the end of the game.

Why does he do this and who else does this?
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Re: Buzz's Starters
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2013, 05:44:20 PM »
Not that unusual to keep one of your better offensive players in reserve, but I think having 2 or 3 best to come in with the second unit is a bit unusual.  And it isn't just who finishes - it's minutes.  I don't have any quarrel w Buzz over his strategy (that sound you hear is buzz's relief) of going 10 deep and looking to win te end of the game when the opponent is tired and we are still relatively fresh.  All of that said, I would still start Ox (wouldnt change Chris's minutes- Ox needs the rest) and get the ball to him a few times early. 
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Re: Buzz's Starters
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2013, 05:45:23 PM »
He does it (A) to win the opening tip, (B) to let Otule soften up the opposing big for a few minutes (C) because DG effectiveness dwindles when he plays long consecutive minutes, (D) JWilson, like Crowder as a junior, commits stupid fouls and gets into early foul trouble, (E) he started out starting Lockett and likes the non-scoring things he does, (F) he isn't convinced the team would be better with Mayo starting over Lockett.

Stop worrying about who starts.   Minutes will be distributed by production and matchups.    
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Re: Buzz's Starters
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2013, 05:48:27 PM »
Quote from: LloydMooresLegs on January 20, 2013, 05:44:20 PM
Not that unusual to keep one of your better offensive players in reserve, but I think having 2 or 3 best to come in with the second unit is a bit unusual.  And it isn't just who finishes - it's minutes.  I don't have any quarrel w Buzz over his strategy (that sound you hear is buzz's relief) of going 10 deep and looking to win te end of the game when the opponent is tired and we are still relatively fresh.  All of that said, I would still start Ox (wouldnt change Chris's minutes- Ox needs the rest) and get the ball to him a few times early. 

I wouldn't be too surprised to see some tinkering with the starters just as a way to avoid the slow starts the team has had on occasion.
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« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2013, 05:49:16 PM »
Quote from: tower912 on January 20, 2013, 05:45:23 PM
He does it (A) to win the opening tip, (B) to let Otule soften up the opposing big for a few minutes (C) because DG effectiveness dwindles when he plays long consecutive minutes, (D) JWilson, like Crowder as a junior, commits stupid fouls and gets into early foul trouble, (E) he started out starting Lockett and likes the non-scoring things he does, (F) he isn't convinced the team would be better with Mayo starting over Lockett.

Stop worrying about who starts.   Minutes will be distributed by production and matchups.    

Lockett this year = Vander last year?
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« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2013, 05:51:03 PM »
Quote from: tower912 on January 20, 2013, 05:45:23 PM
He does it (A) to win the opening tip, (B) to let Otule soften up the opposing big for a few minutes (C) because DG effectiveness dwindles when he plays long consecutive minutes, (D) JWilson, like Crowder as a junior, commits stupid fouls and gets into early foul trouble, (E) he started out starting Lockett and likes the non-scoring things he does, (F) he isn't convinced the team would be better with Mayo starting over Lockett.

Stop worrying about who starts.   Minutes will be distributed by production and matchups.    

Part B) above is what I disagree with. If he wants Ox to have his minutes broken up and still play the same number or more minutes (an I agree with that) he should start.  Then get a rest.  Then come back in.
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Re: Buzz's Starters
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2013, 05:59:00 PM »
Lml, do you want DG for the opening tip or do you want to see Otule go the way of Rod Grosse, taking the opening tip, disappearing at the first dead ball, and then only seeing spot action?    IMO, I would start Mayo for Lockett and leave everything else, but in Buzz I trust. 
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Re: Buzz's Starters
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2013, 06:00:11 PM »
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 20, 2013, 05:48:27 PM
I wouldn't be too surprised to see some tinkering with the starters just as a way to avoid the slow starts the team has had on occasion.


They start slow offensively, but outside of yesterday they don't start behind.  He starts a good defensive team.
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Re: Buzz's Starters
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2013, 06:01:12 PM »
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 20, 2013, 05:49:16 PM
Lockett this year = Vander last year?


Lockett does do a lot of the things, like rebounding, that Vander did last year.
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Re: Buzz's Starters
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2013, 06:05:43 PM »
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 20, 2013, 05:49:16 PM
Lockett this year = Vander last year?



Therefore, Lockett will be improved next season.
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Re: Buzz's Starters
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2013, 07:21:07 PM »
Anyone remember Crean starting John Mueller every game his senior year?
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Re: Buzz's Starters
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2013, 07:25:29 PM »
Quote from: 4everwarriors on January 20, 2013, 06:05:43 PM
Therefore, Lockett will be improved next season.

I suppose that's good news for his NBADL or European team next year.
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Re: Buzz's Starters
« Reply #12 on: January 20, 2013, 08:31:21 PM »
Syracuse has done it quite often IIRC. They didn't start Waiters last year and he was a lottery pick.

http://www.nunesmagician.com/2012/3/5/2846496/big-east-awards-dion-waiters-sixth-man-fab-melo-defensive
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