Manti Te'o a fraud?

[Golden Avalanche]

I'm 45 years old.

20 years ago, I was pretty active in the early days of USENET in their rudimentary discussion forums on college basketball.  I have about two dozen Facebook friends from those forums whom I have never met.  Hey, most of the people here I have never actually met.  (I was informed by someone that I once threw a beer at Chicos.)

So I can see how this *might* occur...but I am doubtful.

Wait, what precipitates a man throwing his beer at another man?

[MerrittsMustache]

Wait, what precipitates a man throwing his beer at another man?

Are you not familiar with Chicos?

[reinko]

Are you not familiar with Chicos?

Hi-O

[jficke13]

but still, a beer is a terrible thing to waste.

[Groin_pull]

Not sure that Swarbrick speaking at a presser in 20 mins does anyone any good.

I did appreciate his tears during that presser. Nice touch. Of course, I'd get emotional to if I knew Manti T'eo would never be able to trust again.

[MarsupialMadness]

This is one of the many, many interesting parts of the story.  A tweet by Manti Te'o, talking about his fake girlfriend's fake sister, U'ilana Rae:

mteo_5 [Manti Teo]

Shout out to Ms.@uilanarae she's new to twitter and needs some followers! One of the realist people I know.



...one of the realist people he knows? Cryptic.  Creepy.  Crazy.

[jficke13]

This is one of the many, many interesting parts of the story.  A tweet by Manti Te'o, talking about his fake girlfriend's fake sister, U'ilana Rae:

mteo_5 [Manti Teo]

Shout out to Ms.@uilanarae she's new to twitter and needs some followers! One of the realist people I know.


...one of the realist people he knows? Cryptic.  Creepy.  Crazy.

Ironic

[GGGG]

More from Deadspin...ouch.

http://jezebel.com/5976718/notre-dame-says-manti-teo-is-a-victim-thats-rich-considering-their-history-of-ignoring-actual-victims

[Benny B]

I agree with you...no way Te'o comes out of this looking very good.

I'm not sure whey ND went to bat for him either.  I can understand why they might have been willing to sit on things and let Te'o break the story, but I'm not sure why the press conference.  I do think that the press conference has helped Te'o (it makes me more inclined to believe that he was duped), but I'm not sure why ND would put itself out there like that.  It wasn't necessary and if it turns out that Te'o was in on it, it's going to make ND look pretty bad.

I don't know... we all thought ND was going to look bad after the  videocamera incident, sexual assualts, suicide, Tommy Rees' inaugural 1/2k police run, etc., but they seem to come out pretty unscathed every time.

Maybe Ronaiah saw the tendency that ND has to write checks when things need to go away and somehow concocted a plan to capitalize.  Whether Te'o was involved or not is no concern of ND's at this point... they're just happy they don't have to dip into the hush fund again.

[mu03eng]

I don't know... we all thought ND was going to look bad after the  videocamera incident, sexual assualts, suicide, Tommy Rees' inaugural 1/2k police run, etc., but they seem to come out pretty unscathed every time.

Maybe Ronaiah saw the tendency that ND has to write checks when things need to go away and somehow concocted a plan to capitalize.  Whether Te'o was involved or not is no concern of ND's at this point... they're just happy they don't have to dip into the hush fund again.

But that's the point, why would ND go to bat for them because it opens all those other things up to ridicule, see the link above.  Other than the fact that Te'o played for ND, they had no issue in this story until they inserted themselves in it by becoming the Te'o police then sat on the story.  Until December 27th then ND started working with Te'o on this they had no issues, now they've created a bunch of issues for themselves and tied the Te'o anchor around their neck.

[TallTitan34]

So Swarbruck broke into tears over Teo, but not for the real deaths of Sullivan or Seeberg?

[jficke13]

So Swarbruck broke into tears over Teo, but not for the real deaths of Sullivan or Seeberg?

Well... presumably Swarbuck didn't know Sullivan or Seeberg so would be less likely to shed tears for a stranger than he would for a person he knows well.

[brewcity77]

Well... presumably Swarbuck didn't know Sullivan or Seeberg so would be less likely to shed tears for a stranger than he would for a person he knows well.

He knew Lennay Kekeu well? 

[jficke13]

He knew Lennay Kekeu well? 

touche.

[Groin_pull]

Only people that perpetuate that claim are non NDers

Sorry, not true. The NDers I've personally encountered are some of the most arrogant, insufferable, self-righteous d-bags walking the planet.

[mu03eng]

So Swarbruck broke into tears over Teo, but not for the real deaths of Sullivan or Seeberg?

Hence ND even opening there mouth is confusing.  The only saving grace is the MSM doesn't want to dig or point too hard because then they would also expose their incompetence.  I mean good lord Gene W from ESPN is running around telling anyone who would listen that he was suspicious in October but didn't say anything.  Really, we're going with the 6 year old defense??  I told Jimmy not to do it!!

[GGGG]

Wait, what precipitates a man throwing his beer at another man?

Well, here's the deal.  This story wasn't told to me until about six months ago.  I had no idea who Chicos was, so when an MU friend of mine was talking about Scoop, and Chicos name came up, he said "don't you remember him?  He was driving you nuts and you through your beer at him."  I remember the incident and thought it was at one of those Greentree all you can drink for $3 disasters, but he claimed it was at an Evan Scholars party.

So either way, the marginal cost of the next beer was $0.

So I apologize to Chicos for throwing a beer at him.

[MerrittsMustache]

More from Deadspin...ouch.

http://jezebel.com/5976718/notre-dame-says-manti-teo-is-a-victim-thats-rich-considering-their-history-of-ignoring-actual-victims

I understand not using the word "victim" in cases where you don't believe that a person really was a victim. However, what gets me is that ND launched an immediate investigation into Te'o's claims but it took over 2 WEEKS to begin investigating an alleged rape and then after the accuser killed herself, it took 5 more days to actually interview the accused.

[RJax55]

I mean good lord Gene W from ESPN is running around telling anyone who would listen that he was suspicious in October but didn't say anything.

Yeah, Gene is looking like a real fool. I don't understand his comments. If he felt things were suspicious, why didn't he follow-up on the story? As the Deadspin article proved, a quick check into Lennay would have confirmed that something was amiss.

[mugrad99]

Well, here's the deal.  This story wasn't told to me until about six months ago.  I had no idea who Chicos was, so when an MU friend of mine was talking about Scoop, and Chicos name came up, he said "don't you remember him?  He was driving you nuts and you through your beer at him."  I remember the incident and thought it was at one of those Greentree all you can drink for $3 disasters, but he claimed it was at an Evan Scholars party.

So either way, the marginal cost of the next beer was $0.

So I apologize to Chicos for throwing a beer at him.

1. I was probably there as well..the Greentree was a second home for me...
2. You probably threw your beer, and it went right over his head...It's easy to aim too high with JD

[4everwarriors]

Well, here's the deal.  This story wasn't told to me until about six months ago.  I had no idea who Chicos was, so when an MU friend of mine was talking about Scoop, and Chicos name came up, he said "don't you remember him?  He was driving you nuts and you through your beer at him."  I remember the incident and thought it was at one of those Greentree all you can drink for $3 disasters, but he claimed it was at an Evan Scholars party.

So either way, the marginal cost of the next beer was $0.

So I apologize to Chicos for throwing a beer at him.



Sure you're not imagining this?

[GGGG]

Sure you're not imagining this?

I could be.  I am just passing along what I was told.

[nyg]

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8852980/is-manti-teo-liar-victim-college-football

Gene W. response.

[Dish]

The longer Teo goes without speaking, the worse this is going to get for him. Think about it, if this was a legit, elaborate hoax, and you have the biggest (and very public) job interviews of your life coming up, wouldn't you be wayyyyy out in front of this and making sure everyone knew this was a hoax, you're a victim, blah blah blah? Silence is not his friend right now.

And think about what has happened on Swarbrick's watch while at ND, I mean my god. 2 horrible deaths of students related (in some fashion) to the football program, and now this. I realize it's his job to protect "the brand", but this is unreal to me.

[4everwarriors]

I could be.  I am just passing along what I was told.

No problem. Now waitin' for the Tiger and Elin remarriage fit to hit the sham.