About Those IU Fans ..

[Tugg Speedman]

The announcers for the IU/UW game just keep lying.  They keep insisting that IU fans show in big numbers no matter what.

Well lets hop in the way back machine ... to 2009 ...

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Economy won't play larger role
February 11, 2009

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=3897386

INDIANAPOLIS -- The NCAA promises not to bust a budget or a bracket when March Madness arrives.

The recession has some schools scrambling to fill budget holes and seats.

Last month, The Associated Press reported Stanford University projects a $5 million shortfall over the next three years and is considering reducing its staff. At Indiana, athletic director Fred Glass has reduced ticket costs for balcony seating to $5, hoping to improve slipping attendance.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/preview2012/story/_/id/8576032/indiana-hoosiers-ready-see-match-lofty-expectations-season-men-college-basketball

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and this to confirm it ...........

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Indiana enjoying its return to the top
November 5, 2012

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/preview2012/story/_/id/8576032/indiana-hoosiers-ready-see-match-lofty-expectations-season-men-college-basketball

Where once the athletic department offered upper-deck tickets for $5 to fill Assembly Hall, home games now have long been sold out. Where once disillusioned students accounted for only 4,000 tickets, they now take 12,000 seats.

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IU fans are like everywhere else, they only show when they are good.  When they suck, like three years ago, the vaunted upper-deck they are praising today is empty.

[MarquetteDano]

Timing of post during their beloved Indiana team playing means that Equalizer and Chicos will not respond straight away to this one.

But expecting long winded replies to this post......

[wadesworld]

Timing of post during their beloved Indiana team playing means that Equalizer and Chicos will not respond straight away to this one.

But expecting long winded replies to this post......

Hoopaloop might respond though.

Shocker that Hoopaloop has not posted on MUScoop since Chicosbailbonds has been allowed to return to posting.  But they're not the same people...

[real chili 83]

Hoopaloop might respond though.

Shocker that Hoopaloop has not posted on MUScoop since Chicosbailbonds has been allowed to return to posting.  But they're not the same people...

Hey/they havent been on since this morning.

[79Warrior]

Say what you want, it is a great atmosphere tonight.

[RideMyBuycks]

Just saw a "Ken Nunn loves IU basketball" ad on the scorer's table. I thought it was a pass at Kendrick...I guess he's just a personal injury lawyer in Bloomington

[Tugg Speedman]

Say what you want, it is a great atmosphere tonight.

But that's not what they are saying.  They are telling us it was the same in 2009 when IU was 6-21.

[brewcity77]

Hoopaloop might respond though.

Shocker that Hoopaloop has not posted on MUScoop since Chicosbailbonds has been allowed to return to posting.  But they're not the same people...

I'm pretty sure mods banned Hoop months before CBB came back.

Here's how I believe that went...

CBB was a poster here. Hoopaloop was a different poster here. They became friends.

CBB got banned. Hoopaloop shared his user info with CBB. They both began to post under the Hoop account.

Hoop got banned for allowing a banned member to use his account.

CBB was later allowed back. Hoop is still banned for allowing CBB to post under his account.

[chapman]

Announcers used a cliche during a broadcast and more people go to games when a team is good.  Can we just lock this before it turns into an embarrassing five page piss fest?

[mu-rara]

I'm pretty sure mods banned Hoop months before CBB came back.

Here's how I believe that went...

CBB was a poster here. Hoopaloop was a different poster here. They became friends.

CBB got banned. Hoopaloop shared his user info with CBB. They both began to post under the Hoop account.

Hoop got banned for allowing a banned member to use his account.

CBB was later allowed back. Hoop is still banned for allowing CBB to post under his account.

Teal?

[GGGG]

Dakich really, really tries to be balanced when he does IU games.  (For those who don't know, he played and coached at IU under Knight.)  And by and large I think he does a good job.  However he does say things, like about the attendance, and the William Tell Overture, where I roll my eyes. 

[brewcity77]

Teal?

No.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Hoopaloop might respond though.

Shocker that Hoopaloop has not posted on MUScoop since Chicosbailbonds has been allowed to return to posting.  But they're not the same people...

Not the same people, that's already been proven.  But you are going to believe what you believe.

I didn't even know about the IU game until tonight, I've been traveling (on an airplane as I type this) and was tied up past midnight last night celebrating with colleagues something else.  When I saw the score today I told a colleague "Bo Ryan owns Tom Crean"

IU does well for attendance...it's a tough place to play.  Some of my best college basketball memories at MU for some epic games with large crowds, but also at IU and at Phogg Allen Fieldhouse.  Been blessed to be at some pretty good basketball schools over the years.

Carry on Wade....life is short...but carry on

[eagleinindy10]

mu fan first, iu second. indiana doesn't sell out when the team is crap, but they do stay in pretty respectable company.

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/m_basketball_RB/Reports/attend/2010.pdf

[Tugg Speedman]

Not this year

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/m_basketball_RB/Reports/attend/2009.pdf

[eagleinindy10]

not saying assembly was anything close to what it is now in 09, but one spot behind michigan state when you're 6-25? doesnt seem to shabby.

[dwaderoy2004]

This is the stupidest topic ever.  Unless Dakich said that IU was selling out every game in 2009 and 2010, he was not lying.  IU finished 16th and 11th in total attendance those years, filling Assenbly Hall to 82% capacity in 2009 and 88% capacity in 2010.  That, to me, is big time attendance numbers and "IU fans showing up in big numbers no matter what."  Not sure how you can argue differently.  Just because IU had to lower ticket prices doesn't mean people didn't show up, as the actual attendance numbers bear out.  Again, I am just responding to how AnotherMU framed it in the OP.  I didn't hear what Dakich actually said.

[Tugg Speedman]

This is the stupidest topic ever.  Unless Dakich said that IU was selling out every game in 2009 and 2010, he was not lying.  IU finished 16th and 11th in total attendance those years, filling Assenbly Hall to 82% capacity in 2009 and 88% capacity in 2010.  That, to me, is big time attendance numbers and "IU fans showing up in big numbers no matter what."  Not sure how you can argue differently.  Just because IU had to lower ticket prices doesn't mean people didn't show up, as the actual attendance numbers bear out.  Again, I am just responding to how AnotherMU framed it in the OP.  I didn't hear what Dakich actually said.

See the link above ... tickets were $5 on 2010 and 2011.  Cost more to park your car than attend the game.  See the link above again, they also lost 2/3s of the students section in those years.

Again all I'm saying is IU is no different than anywhere else ... put out a crap product and no one shows up.  Nothing surprising about that.  What is surprising is Dakich trying to say the atmosphere against Bucky earlier this week was the same in 2009 when they went 6-21.  Don't insult me.

[dwaderoy2004]

No one shows up!?  They were 11th and 16th in attendance in 2009 and 2010!  You're nitpicking for the sake of it.

[ChicosBailBonds]

This is the stupidest topic ever.  Unless Dakich said that IU was selling out every game in 2009 and 2010, he was not lying.  IU finished 16th and 11th in total attendance those years, filling Assenbly Hall to 82% capacity in 2009 and 88% capacity in 2010.  That, to me, is big time attendance numbers and "IU fans showing up in big numbers no matter what."  Not sure how you can argue differently.  Just because IU had to lower ticket prices doesn't mean people didn't show up, as the actual attendance numbers bear out.  Again, I am just responding to how AnotherMU framed it in the OP.  I didn't hear what Dakich actually said.

Agree. 

I'm glad you mentioned capacity, because that is the key part here.  Assembly Hall only holds 17,500.  It's also Bloomington, Indiana with the closest "big" city about 1 hour away.  Now, certainly plenty of alumni make the drive down routinely, but it's not as if there is 1.5M people in the immediate Bloomington metro area to draw from like MU has from Milwaukee.

As stated, I've had some terrific experiences at the Bradley Center, AH in Bloomington, PA in Lawrence, PP at UCLA, the Pit in ABQ, etc.  When joints are rocking, it's a good experience wherever you're at.  Some joints rock more than others. Some have too high of expectations and they have trouble hitting the high notes anymore (UCLA is one that comes to mind).  Winning, sometimes, breeds complacement.  Then again, losing often keeps fans away entirely, especially if you are making an hour drive from Indy to watch your team get destroyed with basically one or two legitimate D1 players on it.  That shouldn't be surprising.

[dwaderoy2004]

Don't insult me.

You're calling people liars when they didn't lie.

[ChicosBailBonds]

Hoopaloop might respond though.

Shocker that Hoopaloop has not posted on MUScoop since Chicosbailbonds has been allowed to return to posting.  But they're not the same people...

Canadian Dimes hasn't poster either....I guess I must be him.   

[JakeBarnes]

Hell, I only personally post about 1/2 of all my posts.  I hire a staff to do the rest of my posts. Right now for example... not even me.

[wadesworld]

Canadian Dimes hasn't poster either....I guess I must be him.   

Weird, I seem to remember Hoop bringing up month old posts for no reason at all...

[lab_warrior]

Just what in F*** ALL does attendance at Indiana basketball games
have ANYTHING to do with Marquette basketball?