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Totally lost on the final play, guarding no one while Pitt gets off a wide-open 3. Inexcusable. Unfathomable.

OrangeGreenGolden

Blame the coach for not telling his players that there was 1.2 left and to match up on everyone outside the 3 point line. Stupid on wilsons part but that's the coaches fault.

tower912

Wilson was the only guy on the perimeter.   All of the other wing defenders were hugging the same guy under the basket. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

TJ

Quote from: tower912 on January 12, 2013, 01:22:32 PM
Wilson was the only guy on the perimeter.   All of the other wing defenders were hugging the same guy under the basket. 
Yeah, that was horrible, but it was a team mistake and not on just one guy.

brewcity77

Should've fouled before the ball was even inbounded.

rocky_warrior

Quote from: MU4life2 on January 12, 2013, 01:21:40 PM
Blame the coach for not telling his players that there was 1.2 left and to match up on everyone outside the 3 point line. Stupid on wilsons part but that's the coaches fault.

Agreed, why was any MU player inside the 3pt line?  Glad it all worked out!  Go MU!

ATL MU Warrior

This game is a surefire loss without D. Wilson.  Think about that when starting threads like this.

JakeBarnes

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 12, 2013, 01:34:59 PM
Should've fouled before the ball was even inbounded.

This.  There is no excuse for not doing this.
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

"We all carry within us our places of exile, our crimes and our ravages. But our task is not to unleash them on the world; it is to fight them in ourselves and in others." -Camus, The Rebel

bilsu

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 12, 2013, 01:34:59 PM
Should've fouled before the ball was even inbounded.
There is always the argument that you should have fouled. However, instead of fouling why not leave the spot under the basket wide open tempting the inbounder to go for the easy 2. 1.2 seconds would be close to zero after they take the easy wide open shot.

dgies9156

The question with intelligent basketball fans is where was the timeout when it became apparent we were not lining up properly.

In a situation like the one at the end of regulation, why not line your team up at the three-point perimeter and give 'em the easy two pointer. You've got the three point line vigorously defended and will have a hand in their face.

I hate to say it but this WAS a coaching breakdown. No harm, no foul today, but against Cincinnati, Syracuse and Louisville, this will be fatal.


tower912

Wainwright is in charge of end-of-game 3 pt defense.   MU ran a defensive play he used to use all of the time at DePaul.
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Dr. Blackheart

Brain cramp on the coach not to call time out and get a strategy there.  A number of different options and what MU picked was not it.  Buzz said after Gtown on the foul strategy that you don't have time to practice all the end game situations...sorry, but this is your fifth one point or OT game.  Combine this with Gardner's 12th row pass instead of pulling up to get fouled and it should be clear you need to practice it.

GGGG

D. Wilson was where he should have been.  He was guarding anybody who popped out on the wing.  Someone in the lane screwed up.

tower912

Buzz just said on the postgame that Trent was supposed to be out on the shooter.   
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Benny B

Quote from: tower912 on January 12, 2013, 01:57:53 PM
Buzz just said on the postgame that Trent was supposed to be out on the shooter.   

Trent likes dramatic wins.  Good for him.
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Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

Golden Avalanche

Quote from: tower912 on January 12, 2013, 01:57:53 PM
Buzz just said on the postgame that Trent was supposed to be out on the shooter.   

Lockett is the smartest dumbest player under Buzz.

JakeBarnes

Quote from: Benny B on January 12, 2013, 02:03:54 PM
Trent likes dramatic wins.  Good for him.

It's his last joyride.  He wants to have it be full of fun and drama.
Assume what I say should be in teal if it doesn't pass the smell test for you.

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tower912

Trent had his hands all over the guy under the basket while the shot was going up.  
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

Stretchdeltsig

Lockett or J. Wilson should have been on the 3 point shooter.  There was was no need to defend anyone underneath.  You could probably blame this on a coaching error.

avid1010

Quote from: tower912 on January 12, 2013, 01:57:53 PM
Buzz just said on the postgame that Trent was supposed to be out on the shooter.   
makes two games in a row for lockett...

you could see the two discussing right before ball was inbounded....wilson was ready for the guy to break his way...lockett wasn't even on the right side of the guy he was guarding, and then followed him right into the post and had a great box out (with 1 second left up 3)!!!!!!  i'm questioning the level of academics at ASU after the last two games.  

MarquetteDano

Quote from: The Golden Avalanche on January 12, 2013, 02:04:56 PM
Lockett is the smartest dumbest player under Buzz.

I don't hate Lockett as much as many people here do but that's twice now he almost cost the game late.  I think he should still get 20+ minutes but you have to consider about pulling him late in tight games.   :-\

WellsstreetWanderer

I kept hollering at the screen " two points are no concern- guard the three" that was the only thing that could tie the game. Should have been a time out to set defense

ChicosBailBonds

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 12, 2013, 01:46:06 PM
Brain cramp on the coach not to call time out and get a strategy there.  A number of different options and what MU picked was not it.  Buzz said after Gtown on the foul strategy that you don't have time to practice all the end game situations...sorry, but this is your fifth one point or OT game.  Combine this with Gardner's 12th row pass instead of pulling up to get fouled and it should be clear you need to practice it.

Correct.  That is how ESPN reported it...should have called timeout.  Fortunate it didn't bite us.

Take the end result. 

We R Final Four

Quote from: elephantraker on January 12, 2013, 02:09:49 PM
I kept hollering at the screen " two points are no concern- guard the three" that was the only thing that could tie the game. Should have been a time out to set defense
+1

My kids were mocking me well after the games saying 'DEFEND THE THREE....DEFEND THE THREE, DAD'. 

Besides DWill(at the wing) and JWill (on the ball) why are the three of you inside the 3-point line, more so inside the lane???????

8th graders know he score and the situation, why are our guys sitting in the lane???? Shocked our guys don't completely understand the end of the game situations.

1.2 seconds left....down by three.  What are the only ways that they can tie the game?  Trent--you raised your hand first, so go ahead.....


LloydMooresLegs

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 12, 2013, 01:34:59 PM
Should've fouled before the ball was even inbounded.

While Pitt was called for a hold (and just a regular foul) before the inbounds on an earlier play, I think this is too dangerous because it can lead to a call of an intentional foul. 

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