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Re: We Need Better Players
« Reply #25 on: January 10, 2013, 06:21:06 PM »
Wow...This thread is comical. 1st time posters never fail to disappoint me. LOL

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Re: We Need Better Players
« Reply #26 on: January 10, 2013, 06:21:22 PM »
We need to recruit high school players who have already proven themselves in the Big East!

This wasn't meant to be about the high school recruits we have coming in.  But OK.  Keep bringing that up.

The point was that we don't score the ball well at all, and we won't next year because freshman are not going to come in and be the stars of the team.  It just doesn't happen that way.  Hopefully next year's recruiting class is the first of many that has multiple players who can efficiently put the ball in the bucket consistently.

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Re: We Need Better Players
« Reply #27 on: January 10, 2013, 06:23:52 PM »
Next year's class is concensus top 10 right now.   Though Buzz always keeps recruiting, there isn't room on next year's roster for any more players.   So, more realistically, we need the players we have to step up (I am looking at you, JWilson, Vander, and DG) and we need to hope that at least some of our incoming freshmen are able to contribute immediately.   
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Re: We Need Better Players
« Reply #28 on: January 10, 2013, 06:24:29 PM »
Looking at this year's team, we have more problems on defense than we do on offense.
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Re: We Need Better Players
« Reply #29 on: January 10, 2013, 06:27:09 PM »
We need to go back in time and recruit high school players who have proven themselves in the Big East!

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« Reply #30 on: January 10, 2013, 06:32:20 PM »
We need to recruit high school players who have already proven themselves in the Big East!


Best idea ever.

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Re: We Need Better Players
« Reply #31 on: January 10, 2013, 06:34:20 PM »
I wasn't aware Wilson and Burton's only competitive basketball has been in backwater places in Wisconsin.  It must have been a different Wilson lighting it up against high major recruits in out of state tournaments like the Nike EYBL last spring and summer?

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Re: We Need Better Players
« Reply #32 on: January 10, 2013, 06:36:00 PM »
Yeah, and Burton couldn't make a lay up while playing at a high end prep school.   Though I agree that with Deonte's body type, he may be the last to make a significant impact.   
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Re: We Need Better Players
« Reply #33 on: January 10, 2013, 06:59:13 PM »
We need to go back in time and recruit high school players who have proven themselves in the Big East!

Crank up the Way-Back Machine.
All this talk of rights.  So little talk of responsibilities.

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« Reply #34 on: January 10, 2013, 06:59:59 PM »
 Name the Division 1 talent coming out of the City Conference in the last decade. 
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Deonte Burton
Jameel McKay
Diante Garrett
Philip Nolan
Kevon Looney
Dejaunte Wade
Boo Wade
Boo WIlliams
Quemont Greer
Landry Brothers
Denzell Walker
Avery Smith
Deion James
Anthony Hill
Ricky Franklin
Dwight Buycks
Freddie Owens
Etc.

FBN locales--

Milwaukee Luthern
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St. Cats
St. Joes
Germantown
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Hartland and
Wauwatosa.

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« Reply #35 on: January 10, 2013, 07:01:59 PM »
Oh yeah, and two from Whitefish Bay as well.

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« Reply #36 on: January 10, 2013, 07:12:24 PM »
Im imagining sarcastro wearing a super hero costume .... awesome

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« Reply #37 on: January 10, 2013, 07:19:54 PM »
I don't think they're going to light the world on fire in their Freshman year though.  Maybe I'm a troll for thinking that.

The VAST MAJORITY of frosh. are either bench warmers or roll players. So, you are not a troll because you think that next year's class isn't going to "light the world on fire". Frankly, I'm not counting on it either. It's very rare.

However, everything else you are saying makes you very troll-like.

The hand wringing over "BETTER PLAYERS!" is lame. Every program wants better players. Good players are a limited commodity. MU and Buzz are doing the best they can, and seem to be trending in the right direction.

Have a beer. Relax.

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« Reply #38 on: January 10, 2013, 07:36:22 PM »
We need to recruit high school players who have already proven themselves in the Big East!

That's the key!!
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« Reply #39 on: January 10, 2013, 07:37:04 PM »
Lots of interesting new posters since the whole C7 business hit. 

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« Reply #40 on: January 10, 2013, 07:50:11 PM »
Milwaukee Vincent has played 3 conference game this season...

They have played the likes of De Pere (Farm Boys of Nowhere) and a team from Indiana (probably Farm Boys of Nowhere).

Not to mention, the City Conference is great and all for the WIAA, but again...compare it to the best conferences in California, Florida, Tennessee, Illinois, Ohio, even Indiana.  It'd be a joke.  This isn't Big East competition.  Name the Division 1 talent coming out of the City Conference in the last decade.  Again, the talent in Milwaukee is as good as it's ever been, and that's with like 5 Division 1 recruits in coming out of it.  Sad.

It's interesting when Deonte and his team play a team from Indiana they were probably Farmboys......But when you decide to diss the city conf. From WIAA the city conf. Can't compare to those in such great places as say, i dunno, Indiana. Whatever works for you.

Btw, that school from Indy that Vincent beat is in the city conf. Of Indy--not Farmboys like Cassville.

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« Reply #41 on: January 10, 2013, 08:02:31 PM »
http://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1435977


This...

Add this years experience for J. Wilson, Blue, Gardner, Taylor, D. Wilson, Mayo, Taylor and Anderson. 

Add the incoming class of above.

Equals a potential very talented team. Better players, better experience.

Duane Wilson, Johnson and McKay will have immediate impact. 

If Looney or Stone decide to MU in year after that, then watch out. 

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Re: We Need Better Players
« Reply #42 on: January 10, 2013, 08:11:26 PM »
Um, haiku?

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« Reply #43 on: January 10, 2013, 08:11:49 PM »
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« Reply #44 on: January 10, 2013, 08:25:06 PM »
People need to remember to spray Lysol on the toilet seat before squatting. This smack is contagious.
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Re: We Need Better Players
« Reply #45 on: January 10, 2013, 08:30:29 PM »
Gavin Schilling 6-9, 235,  Chicago, even if he is taken. We have a very good recruiting class in 2013. Wisconsin has a few--- Kevon Looney (Must)  Diamond Stone (Must), Henry Ellenson (Must)

Matt Thomas, and steal Bronson Koenig, Luke Fischer, Nick Fuller, plus Luke Worthington or Toby Hegner
 Fundamentally sound players who can shoot and play "D". D.J. Newbill would have been a good addition.

Tokoto, Dekker and W. Ellenson, would have great additions. All are good, hard nosed players.

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Re: We Need Better Players
« Reply #46 on: January 10, 2013, 08:42:33 PM »
Looking at this year's team, we have more problems on defense than we do on offense.

I respectfully disagree.

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Re: We Need Better Players
« Reply #47 on: January 10, 2013, 08:47:42 PM »
What did Mayo average last year as a fr?  The only team in the country that does not need better players is Kentucky.  We lost 2 18 pt scores in 1 season.  When is the last time a team did that and make the tournament the next year. 

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« Reply #48 on: January 10, 2013, 09:10:33 PM »
Today's new posters are producing some message board gold!  Love it!

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« Reply #49 on: January 10, 2013, 09:30:07 PM »
This wasn't meant to be about the high school recruits we have coming in.  But OK.  Keep bringing that up.

The point was that we don't score the ball well at all, and we won't next year because freshman are not going to come in and be the stars of the team.  It just doesn't happen that way.  Hopefully next year's recruiting class is the first of many that has multiple players who can efficiently put the ball in the bucket consistently.

The current team is shooting 46.7% from the floor. The highest shooting percentage at MU since '02-'03. That shooting percentage ranks 41st in the country (top 12%). MU's top 4 scorers (60% of FG attempts) are shooting a combined 49% from the floor. Gardner is 4th in the BE in FG%. As a whole, the team is averaging 1.30 points per shot, good enough for 63rd in the country (top 20%). Those top 4 players are averaging 1.36 points per shot.

That seems pretty efficient to me.