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Quote from: Aughnanure on January 08, 2013, 02:52:19 PM
I'm fine with Dayton and have never been in love with VCU as some have.
Seriously. Enough with the VCU talk. I never HEARD of the school before their Final 4 run. Stop already.
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Quote from: Avenue Commons on January 08, 2013, 06:33:54 PM
Seriously. Enough with the VCU talk. I never HEARD of the school before their Final 4 run. Stop already.

VCU is growing big time.

jeffreyweee

Dayton is a good pickup that can turn great. They are seriously trending in the right direction and aren't shy about spending money to get there. As long as Archie Miller is their coach and with the new conference I would put serious money on Dayton becoming and staying a great team.

Whether they stay that way after he leap-frogs into a better coaching position is the question.

TallTitan34

Maybe adding Dayton is a good thing.  I don't hate any of the other conference schools and need someone to hate. 

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Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 08, 2013, 07:44:53 PM
Maybe adding Dayton is a good thing.  I don't hate any of the other conference schools and need someone to hate. 

YOU TAKE THAT BACK!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dayton_Flyers

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Quote from: jeffreyweee on January 08, 2013, 07:41:16 PM
Dayton is a good pickup that can turn great. They are seriously trending in the right direction and aren't shy about spending money to get there. As long as Archie Miller is their coach and with the new conference I would put serious money on Dayton becoming and staying a great team.

Whether they stay that way after he leap-frogs into a better coaching position is the question.

Trending how? They are complacent with their mediocre success and always will be. I don't see them spending another dollar if they make it.

Dayton = Mid-major

TallTitan34

I say that now but will regret it the first time we play them.

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Quote from: TallTitan34 on January 08, 2013, 08:22:28 PM
I say that now but will regret it the first time we play them.

Their fans will be more annoying than when we played Cardinal Stritch.

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Quote from: PTM on January 08, 2013, 08:23:19 PM
They're fans will be more annoying than when we played Cardinal Stritch.

... Or when people use the wrong form of "their..."  ;)
Relax. Respect the Process.

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TallTitan34

The two fools in the attached photo sat near robmufan and myself when we played Dayton in Chicago.  They made me hate Dayton.

warriorstrack

A little taste of the Dayton message board.  Too funny
The Big East, and many of these specific teams, have treated us as the Little Sisters of the Poor for decades. Most won't even play us except in a tournament setting. This certainly affects our ability to recruit the best athletes as well as coaches (although I am pleased with AM). Now the Big 3 + Little 4 NEED some teams with excellent facilities, fans, and TV appeal to be viable as a league. I too realize we do not have the the same to offer as X and BU now, but it burns me of the audacity to continue to treat the newbies as unequal. Why would we want to associate with these pompous jerks if this is really what they expect? I'm sorry, but money is not worth continued groveling in the mud. X, VCU, BU, and GMU have done pretty well with less money. Let's do the same and not sacrifice our ethical principle of everyone being equal. It's equality or nothing. Why do you think we get so excited to play and beat these elitist schools?

Litehouse

They do realize the A10 already has unequal distribution don't they?

reinko

Quote from: warriorstrack on January 08, 2013, 08:41:44 PM
A little taste of the Dayton message board.  Too funny
The Big East, and many of these specific teams, have treated us as the Little Sisters of the Poor for decades. Most won't even play us except in a tournament setting. This certainly affects our ability to recruit the best athletes as well as coaches (although I am pleased with AM). Now the Big 3 + Little 4 NEED some teams with excellent facilities, fans, and TV appeal to be viable as a league. I too realize we do not have the the same to offer as X and BU now, but it burns me of the audacity to continue to treat the newbies as unequal. Why would we want to associate with these pompous jerks if this is really what they expect? I'm sorry, but money is not worth continued groveling in the mud. X, VCU, BU, and GMU have done pretty well with less money. Let's do the same and not sacrifice our ethical principle of everyone being equal. It's equality or nothing. Why do you think we get so excited to play and beat these elitist schools?

Think PTM might die of a brain hemmorhage after reading this.

jeffreyweee

Quote from: PTM on January 08, 2013, 08:10:34 PM
Trending how? They are complacent with their mediocre success and always will be. I don't see them spending another dollar if they make it.

Dayton = Mid-major

Archie Miller one of the best young coaches in the game. Give him a couple years to get some guys into his system (he didn't inherit the 3 amigos ala Buzz) and they'll be a very solid team. It wouldn't surprise me in the least to see them take down Butler at home Saturday as they might have the best home court advantage in the A-10.

chapman

Quote from: PTM on January 08, 2013, 08:10:34 PM
Trending how? They are complacent with their mediocre success and always will be. I don't see them spending another dollar if they make it.

Dayton = Mid-major

This.  How are they trending?  Is it that one tournament win in the past 22 years?  Their peak potential in this league is fighting for Seton Hall's "never quite good enough" label, though they're more likely duking it out with DePaul and Providence as a doormat.

Quote from: jeffreyweee on January 08, 2013, 08:52:40 PM
It wouldn't surprise me in the least to see them take down Butler at home Saturday as they might have the best home court advantage in the A-10.

Weber State and Illinois State were super intimidated.

WarriorDoc

I used to look at Dayton as an extremely unfavorable add, mostly due to lack of recent success and minuscule TV market, but I actually think they're one of the better additions now.

This conference is not going to get a network like the BE or B1G has (which depends on market penetration, not necessarily viewers), the TV deal is going to be based solely on number of eyeballs TV execs see the games getting.  Therefore, it doesn't matter if we add a "Rutgers" (aka, someone like Duquesne who are in a large market even though no one watches them) like the B1G did, we're better off adding teams that have rabid fanbases.  From a purely TV dollars perspective, I think even though Dayton and Creighton have small TV markets, their fans are extremely passionate and eyeballs will turn out on the TV.  

...their fanbase is still beyond annoying, though.

martyconlonontherun

I find it funny people are talking about how unequalness in the workplace cause resentment. Do you really think the players we recruit or Buzz cared the university got less than the other schools in the BigEast? They took the upgraded competition/money and ran with it until we knew we would completely lose out. If Dayton comes here and gets slightly less in the contract, maybe 2% of the fanbase would realize that. The other 98% would be happy to be in the league.

Ignorance is bliss, and sometimes the diehard fans who know all the facts get bitter for no reason.

Aughnanure

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Quote from: PTM on January 08, 2013, 08:10:34 PM
Trending how? They are complacent with their mediocre success and always will be. I don't see them spending another dollar if they make it.

Dayton = Mid-major

This is the worst reasoning to make any argument. They've committed a lot to basketball, but haven't run into a run of success. No reason that cant change. Same with DePaul, Providence, St. Louis, etc.
“All men dream; but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act out their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible.” - T.E. Lawrence

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Quote from: Aughnanure on January 08, 2013, 09:18:43 PM
This is the worst reasoning to make any argument. They've committed a lot to basketball, but haven't run into a run of success. No reason that cant change. Same with DePaul, Providence, St. Louis, etc.

They never stepped up to the plate to keep a head coach from leaving, yet they make so much money.

Benny B

Quote from: PTM on January 08, 2013, 08:09:00 PM
YOU TAKE THAT BACK!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dayton_Flyers

"In particular, Dayton fans travel well when their teams play away games. Infiltrating arenas across the nation, convoys of early 1990's Chevrolet Cavaliers follow the Men's basketball team across the Nation. However, the Cavalier convoy often never make the trip to NCAA Tournament sites as Dayton is never invited to dance."

LOLSERS!
Quote from: LittleMurs on January 08, 2015, 07:10:33 PM
Wow, I'm very concerned for Benny.  Being able to mimic Myron Medcalf's writing so closely implies an oncoming case of dementia.

buckchuckler

They seem to really think the C7 are ignorant, while at the same time looking down their noses at a lot of A-10 teams.  What kind of irks me is how they disparage DePaul.  I mean, if DePaul were in the A-10, they would at least be a middling team, and if Dayton was in the (currently comprised) Big East, they would be bottom feeders. 

Aughnanure

Quote from: buckchuckler on January 08, 2013, 09:55:12 PM
They seem to really think the C7 are ignorant, while at the same time looking down their noses at a lot of A-10 teams.  What kind of irks me is how they disparage DePaul.  I mean, if DePaul were in the A-10, they would at least be a middling team, and if Dayton was in the (currently comprised) Big East, they would be bottom feeders. 

This. They love to ignore the fact that Providence, Seton Hall and DePaul have been playing in arguably the greatest conference ever the last decade.
“All men dream; but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act out their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible.” - T.E. Lawrence

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