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Stud of Gerogetown Game

Blue
44 (14.5%)
Gardner
100 (32.9%)
Lockett
122 (40.1%)
Wilson
38 (12.5%)

Total Members Voted: 304

ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: tower912 on January 05, 2013, 04:13:34 PM
Forgetful, it can't be Lockett because of the boneheaded play at the end.   It can't be Blue because he did nothing in the second half and made an idiotic charge at the end.   It can't be JWilson, because he was passive on offense the entire first half and the last 5 minutes of the game.   It can't be Ox because of erratic defense and FT shooting down the stretch.    Nobody played an error free, complete game.   Ya gotta pick somebody.  
Sorry but this makes very little sense.  If nobody played that well, and you gotta pick somebody, then I pick the guy that I think had the best all-around game out of the candidates.  Lockett.

tower912

I disagree with Lockett, but that's just my opinion.   My point was to forgetful who said that DG had to be discounted because of poor defense.   It was an ugly game.   A case can be made for or against any of the 4 players listed.   That is all I am saying. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

forgetful

Quote from: tower912 on January 05, 2013, 04:26:32 PM
I disagree with Lockett, but that's just my opinion.   My point was to forgetful who said that DG had to be discounted because of poor defense.   It was an ugly game.   A case can be made for or against any of the 4 players listed.   That is all I am saying. 

My apologies Tower for the confusion.  That was meant to illustrate the point you made much more eloquently, that they all made big errors/mistakes.  My opinion was Lockett for the reasons ATL Warrior points out.  Best all around game all things considered.

I'll also admit that I am overly harsh on Gardner, mostly because I think he has the potential to be all american, but hasn't got it all together.  All big east is not too shabby though.

pbiflyer

Quote from: avid1010 on January 05, 2013, 04:12:43 PM
ban anyone who votes lockett...a senior, fouling a 3pt shooter, after the realease.  he's lucky the 3rd freethrow (thanks buzz)...let alone the 3pt shoot itself.  he's as good as anyone on mu at turning his back to his man, and the shooter never even should have had that look as lockett didn't show help...just got caught in limbo and lost his man...which accounted for his pathetic close-out.
So let's see, Buzz, Homer and Mac all say Lockett. Hmmmm, who knows more, them or you? I am going with their opinion over yours.

ATL MU Warrior

Quote from: forgetful on January 05, 2013, 04:32:02 PM
My apologies Tower for the confusion.  That was meant to illustrate the point you made much more eloquently, that they all made big errors/mistakes.  My opinion was Lockett for the reasons ATL Warrior points out.  Best all around game all things considered.

I'll also admit that I am overly harsh on Gardner, mostly because I think he has the potential to be all american, but hasn't got it all together.  All big east is not too shabby though.
Agreed about Gardner.  If he had the same motor on both ends of the court he could be that good.

GGGG

#55
Lockett.  His defense on Otto Porter was fantastic.  9 pts / 10 rebounds.  Yeah, he flubbed by fouling the shooter....he got the rebound on the last miss.

Of the others, Wilson also played much better but not as well as Trent.  Blue was good too.  As mentioned in this thread, Davante's defense left a lot to be desired.

AZWarrior

Quote from: UticaBusBarn on January 05, 2013, 04:17:16 PM
Gardner, in the clutch, made two foul shots.

In the clutch Lockett's three shot foul almost cost the Warriors the game at the end. Blue, in the clutch, turned the ball over on a set play coming out of time out.

Gardner won the game, while Lockett and Blue almost lost it.

Regardless, a great (albeit ugly) game. Compliments to the Warriors for a big, big team win.


I agree with your logic.  When it's close, you go for who performed (properly!) in the clutch.  And that's why I voted DG.  Very good effort to win against a top 20 team.    :)
All this talk of rights.  So little talk of responsibilities.

Lennys Tap

Said after UCONN I hoped his play in the OT would turn things around for him. Lockett was a stud today in a very physical game. He gets my vote even with the end of game brain cramp.

brewcity77

Quote from: rocky_warrior on January 05, 2013, 03:39:43 PM
Silly, he caused those free throws!

You're looking at one play in a vacuum. He ripped down numerous key rebounds. He beat the shot clock with his 3 as our offense was floundering. And he made amends immediately for the foul by not only getting the rebound, but by TWICE missing the back end intentionally which prevented Georgetown from getting a last second chance.

Plenty of players make bad plays. Studs of the Game are the type that overcome those bad plays and in the face of them make the winning plays, which is exactly what Lockett did today.

The Process

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 05, 2013, 05:28:54 PM
You're looking at one play in a vacuum.

Dom James wishes he could have been so lucky.
Relax. Respect the Process.

tower912

Quote from: CaptainAwesome on January 05, 2013, 05:30:31 PM
Dom James wishes he could have been so lucky.

Or Jerel against Villanova in the BEast tourney.   Equally large blunder, different outcome. 
Luke 6:45   ...A good man produces goodness from the good in his heart; an evil man produces evil out of his store of evil.   Each man speaks from his heart's abundance...

It is better to be fearless and cheerful than cheerless and fearful.

The Process

Quote from: tower912 on January 05, 2013, 05:52:18 PM
Or Jerel against Villanova in the BEast tourney.   Equally large blunder, different outcome. 

Or Lazar and the baseline inbounds.
Relax. Respect the Process.

jsglow

Lockett.  Our D when he was on the floor was simply 'shut down'.  GTown is a good rebounding team but we out boarded them because of one guy.   Add to that was a solid solid shooting night including a tightly covered 3.  

Yes, he made one poor play.  So did Steve Taylor the game he was SOTG.  Had Lockett's foul changed the outcome, we wouldn't have a SOTG.  But it didn't and he was the single biggest reason we won.

21Jumpstreet


bilsu

I really wanted to vote for Lockett, but I could not because of the foul at the end. However, if the does not go hard at the shooter maybe the shooter would of made the three. Gardner missing free throws hurt. Blue getting charge hurt. Wilson letting Georgetown player jump pass for a steal to tie the game hurt. Cadougan drive to basket getting blocked also hurt. In teh end I voted for OX.

Mutaman

Quote from: forgetful on January 05, 2013, 04:11:06 PM
Against LSU and UW, he was fine, the last two games have been dreadful.  I'm sorry but Defense is half the game, and if you are terrible on D, you can't get a SOTG.


What games have you been watching?

LloydMooresLegs

All 4 nominees are worthy in their own ways.  I voted for JWil. As I think all 4 buckets were big (acknowledging that every basket today was a game winner of sorts), and those mid range jumpers are so important in our struggle to break the zone. 

setyoursightsnorth

That final free-throw by Trent was missed on purpose. Because if he made it, that would have stopped the clock, and gave GTown an inbound pass and a chance to move the ball down. He missed it because that gives a rebound and as soon as the ball gets touched, the game time goes. So the odds of someone rebounding and getting off a last second shot after a rebound are virtually impossible. He did it on purpose. Give him the SOTG. Apart from that stupid foul, this was his best game in an MU jersey.

JamilJaeJamailJrJuan

Quote from: setyoursightsnorth on January 05, 2013, 07:10:31 PM
That final free-throw by Trent was missed on purpose. Because if he made it, that would have stopped the clock, and gave GTown an inbound pass and a chance to move the ball down. He missed it because that gives a rebound and as soon as the ball gets touched, the game time goes. So the odds of someone rebounding and getting off a last second shot after a rebound are virtually impossible. He did it on purpose. Give him the SOTG. Apart from that stupid foul, this was his best game in an MU jersey.

Ding ding ding
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setyoursightsnorth


CTWarrior

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Quote from: CaptainAwesome on January 05, 2013, 03:24:23 PM
If Lockett does win SOG, please add something about "1 really, really stupid play that almost blew it" to his stat line.

It was really FOUR stupid plays for Lockett at the end of the game.  
1.  He left a 3 point shooter alone up 3 in closing seconds.
2.  He fouled that shooter well after the shot, thus not affecting the shot and introducing the possibility of a 4 point play and a loss in regulation, not to mention that the shooter could have made the 3 foul shots and tied the game.
3.  He double-pumped on his first attempt to miss the second FT and should have been called for a violation as it is illegal to fake a free throw, which would have given Georgetown one last chance out of bounds with one second remaining.  
4.  He made definite body contact with the guy who threw the one handed length of the court shot at the end of the game after his deliberate foul shot miss.  No ref is likely to call a foul there, but why even introduce the possibility?

SOTG - Hard to pick someone from this game, nobody with 2 good halves, but a lot of solid overall performances.  I'd go J Wilson.
Calvin:  I'm a genius.  But I'm a misunderstood genius. 
Hobbes:  What's misunderstood about you?
Calvin:  Nobody thinks I'm a genius.

DoggyDaddy

All four nominees deserving, but Lockett--even in the bad foul--showed how much he wanted it all game long. Big blocks big rebounds, great example for team. Even the deliberate missed FT had a great knuckle ball effect that was hard to secure. Go Trent.

MU86NC

What really is amazing about this it that Trent would be the 8th Warrior this year to receive that honor!

avid1010

Quote from: pbiflyer on January 05, 2013, 04:36:41 PM
So let's see, Buzz, Homer and Mac all say Lockett. Hmmmm, who knows more, them or you? I am going with their opinion over yours.
i don't care who you go with...in my mind you simply cannot make that mistake...especially as a senior. 

rocky_warrior

Quote from: setyoursightsnorth on January 05, 2013, 07:10:31 PM
That final free-throw by Trent was missed on purpose. Because if he made it, that would have stopped the clock, and gave GTown an inbound pass and a chance to move the ball down. He missed it because that gives a rebound and as soon as the ball gets touched, the game time goes. So the odds of someone rebounding and getting off a last second shot after a rebound are virtually impossible. He did it on purpose. Give him the SOTG. Apart from that stupid foul, this was his best game in an MU jersey.

Uh, the "stupid" play at the end was the foul.  You're the only one thinking that *anyone* is complaining about the (intentionally) missed free through.

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