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MU82

What does everybody think?

Does Buzz call TO on that last possession of regulation or does he let 'em play? I don't recall what his usual M.O. is in those situations.

If Junior misses badly or we don't get off a shot, I could see everybody ripping Autry for not calling TO. Personally, I always like letting 'em play and not letting the defense get set.
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MU B2002

Quote from: MU82 on January 01, 2013, 10:05:55 PM
What does everybody think?

Does Buzz call TO on that last possession of regulation or does he let 'em play? I don't recall what his usual M.O. is in those situations.

If Junior misses badly or we don't get off a shot, I could see everybody ripping Autry for not calling TO. Personally, I always like letting 'em play and not letting the defense get set.


Especially since Ollie was trying to tell Boatwright to foul Mr. Cadougan.
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AirPunches

Not only does is the D not set but a lot players need to be told to foul. I think Ollie would have had boatright foul Cadougan had they called timeout.

Edit: beat me to it

MU82

I didn't notice that about Ollie wanting a foul.

Later on, I wondered if he regretted not taking a foul there, so that answers my question.
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TallTitan34

In the postgame Autry said he prefers to let the players just keep going as they usually get a better look since the defense doesn't have time to set up.  Plus he feels the players do better when they just take it themselves in that situation.

ChitownSpaceForRent

Doubt it. Buzz did something similar in the Washington game last year where Jae hit the game winning 3. Probably woulda let them play it out on their own.

Dr. Blackheart

Would Buzz have fouled early in the last possession with 40 seconds on the game clock and UCONN still in the 1 and 1, with UCONN up 1?

DSEEagle

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 02, 2013, 01:41:56 AM
Would Buzz have fouled early in the last possession with 40 seconds on the game clock and UCONN still in the 1 and 1, with UCONN up 1?

I like this question. I was screaming at the TV for them to foul. Don't know what Buzz's rule of thumb is for that situation. It was risky allowing ourselves only 5 seconds max to get off the last shot. Obviously paid off.

brewcity77

Quote from: DSEEagle on January 02, 2013, 02:02:54 AM
I like this question. I was screaming at the TV for them to foul. Don't know what Buzz's rule of thumb is for that situation. It was risky allowing ourselves only 5 seconds max to get off the last shot. Obviously paid off.

I was screaming for the foul too. Just didn't feel we had time to waste, and when Boatright sank the shot, I was convinced it was over. Pretty much pulling my hair out watching that one. Can't believe how well things went after that.

MUfan12

Quote from: brewcity77 on January 02, 2013, 05:46:31 AM
I was screaming for the foul too. Just didn't feel we had time to waste, and when Boatright sank the shot, I was convinced it was over. Pretty much pulling my hair out watching that one. Can't believe how well things went after that.

Looking back on it, UConn hitting a two might have been a blessing given the time left. Any defensive rebound would have likely taken another second or two off the clock.

ATWizJr

Quote from: MU B2002 on January 01, 2013, 10:09:13 PM

Especially since Ollie was trying to tell Boatwright to foul Mr. Cadougan.
/would've been a winning strategy. 

mu03eng

Quote from: MUfan12 on January 02, 2013, 07:58:56 AM
Looking back on it, UConn hitting a two might have been a blessing given the time left. Any defensive rebound would have likely taken another second or two off the clock.

This is why I was in an absolute frenzy wanting the team to foul on the 1 and 1.  Obviously it all worked out but if the clock differential is less than 10 seconds you have to foul in that scenario I think.  Additionally, giving the team more time, eliminates the foul before the shot when up by 3 strategy that Ollie was trying to get called in.
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jsglow

Quote from: esard2011 on January 02, 2013, 01:28:01 AM
Doubt it. Buzz did something similar in the Washington game last year where Jae hit the game winning 3. Probably woulda let them play it out on their own.

This.

jsglow

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 02, 2013, 01:41:56 AM
Would Buzz have fouled early in the last possession with 40 seconds on the game clock and UCONN still in the 1 and 1, with UCONN up 1?

I remember glancing at the Jumbotron to see if MU had 8 or 9 team fouls at that juncture (8 was the answer) and then looking at the difference between the game and shot clock.  I'm sure Autry did the same thing.  Tough call either way but sometimes things just work out.

Benny B

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 02, 2013, 01:41:56 AM
Would Buzz have fouled early in the last possession with 40 seconds on the game clock and UCONN still in the 1 and 1, with UCONN up 1?

Perhaps.  Basically there are three options in this scenario:

1) Play the game out.  No fouls, no timeouts, no strategy... let willpower and talent take over.

2) Foul right away, maximize your possessions, and make them beat you at the FT line.

3) Foul with 15 seconds left.  Rebound or inbound, get the ball across half court, and call timeout on your end with 8-10 seconds left to set up one final shot.

Frankly, #2 may not have been a bad idea since UCONN wasn't exactly stellar from the line last night.  But given that MU hadn't made a 3PT basket up to that point, the last thing you'd want to do is put yourself in a position to be down three with one last opportunity to tie, so #3 is right out and even #2 would have been a bit of a risk... maximizing possessions doesn't do you any good if you can't hit the 3.

The best chance MU had to win the game or get to OT was by getting the ball in the paint and hoping for a shot to fall and/or Davante to get to the line.  That said, #1 was probably the best option.
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MU82

Quote from: Dr. Blackheart on January 02, 2013, 01:41:56 AM
Would Buzz have fouled early in the last possession with 40 seconds on the game clock and UCONN still in the 1 and 1, with UCONN up 1?

I watched the game with another MU alum. He wanted us to foul there. I didn't.

Given the end result, I'm obviously a genius!  ;)

Seriously, a case could be made either way. My biggest worry was we foul, they hit the first, they miss the second, they grab the rebound, we have to foul again, they hit 2 and we're down by 4. I preferred playing tough D and making UConn have to earn a score with a difficult shot at the end of the clock. They made the damn shot, but Junior did his thing and the rest is history.
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