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BCHoopster

Is he to nice a guy?  Smiling and turning the ball over all the time.  He had at least 5 top of the key shots he did not take or even look for his shot.  Does he want to play at the next
level?  I saw one great half this year against GB, last year he was a warrior, this year he is playing like a squaw.  Secondly, playing 11 is to much, need to have an 8 or tops 9 man
rotation.  Juan played better today but he stills needs to stop faking shots and take them.  When they stop moving on O, than Blue throws up ridiculous shots.  I think in the long run Todd
might be the best player.  We will see how Buzz coaches these kids up.  Defensively today, they were sleepwalking.  NCC was not as bad as most of these buy bad teams that come
to MU this time of year.  Season begins Tuesday.  First five games, they have to get out of the box fast.  I see both loses on the road so they need to hold court at home.

Blackhat

Doesn't seem to have a killer instinct.   A little different guy.    His pops is a good guy who tries coaching him up right mentally.

AirPunches

He's not a wing. I don't know why people were predicting a break out year from him because he would be able to play his "natural" position. He's a 5..and that's it.

LloydMooresLegs

You insult the squaws.  Right, Warriorchick?

MUfan12

Had concerns about his motor when he was in HS. He took a lot of plays off and seemed disinterested at times. I thought he'd grow out of it, but he still is far too passive.

GGGG

Squaw is a pejorative word.  I think we should refrain from using it on this site.

nyg

The turnovers and laughing after them were one thing, but he played 19 minutes today and did not take a shot.  That is the unreal stat.  The one shot he took was a charging foul.

Anderson played 17 minutes and had 9 points. 

GGGG

Quote from: nyg on December 29, 2012, 04:04:00 PM
The turnovers and laughing after them were one thing, but he played 19 minutes today and did not take a shot.  That is the unreal stat.  The one shot he took was a charging foul.

Anderson played 17 minutes and had 9 points. 


I don't care about the laughing.  I care that he can't get an offensive rebound and a put back. 

Tums Festival

If he plays like this next season, McKay and Taylor will grab the majority of his minutes.
"Every day ends with a Tums festival!"

nyg

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on December 29, 2012, 04:05:09 PM

I don't care about the laughing.  I care that he can't get an offensive rebound and a put back. 

At this point if he grabbed an offensive rebound, he would throw it away.  Then smile...

Markusquette

Hope be bounces back with a strong game vs. UCONN on Tuesday.  We will need it.

BossplayaOtto

Regarding the 11-man rotation, I presume that was "predetermined" to get all the players some run as I wouldn't expect many opportunities for minutes for the end of bench guys once the BE conference games start.  Especially the 1st 5 games.  I would expect a much tighter rotation on Tuesday and going forward with Ferg and Thomas likely struggling to get PT.  With Buzz out it'll be interesting to see how the sub patterns play out against UConn.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: MARQ_13 on December 29, 2012, 03:51:58 PM
He's not a wing. I don't know why people were predicting a break out year from him because he would be able to play his "natural" position. He's a 5..and that's it.

This. As a 5 last year (due to injuries) Jamil played his best basketball. He was at times overpowered, but was a quicker jumper than most 5s and could get wide open looks when he took slower guys outside.

This year he's forced to handle it much more and play against quicker and more athletic players. So far the results have been horrible. The way he's playing right now he should be battling Otule (who's a shadow of his former self) for back up minutes at the 5.


Nukem2

Jamil has been Jekyll & Hyde so far.  Really good and the really bad.

NotAnAlum

Quote from: MARQ_13 on December 29, 2012, 03:51:58 PM
He's a 5..and that's it.

I hope you intended Teal.  JW's body type and game is clearly that of a 3.  He's got a good outside shot (best 3 point shooter on the team).  He can play in space.  He has the talent to be an NBA prospect.  His problem is he loses concentration and doesn't play hard.  When he gets into the flow, like he has during a couple halfs this year, he plays like an All American.  But he seems only able to get into that flow by hitting a couple shots.  Once he disappears he is gone.  Then he seems to be making excuses for himself like "I don't really care that much or I wasn't really trying that hard".  This game may the opportunity for Buzz to have a come to Jesus meeting with him. 

Lennys Tap

Quote from: NotAnAlum on December 29, 2012, 04:38:50 PM
I hope you intended Teal.  JW's body type and game is clearly that of a 3.  He's got a good outside shot (best 3 point shooter on the team).  He can play in space.  He has the talent to be an NBA prospect.  His problem is he loses concentration and doesn't play hard.  When he gets into the flow, like he has during a couple halfs this year, he plays like an All American.  But he seems only able to get into that flow by hitting a couple shots.  Once he disappears he is gone.  Then he seems to be making excuses for himself like "I don't really care that much or I wasn't really trying that hard".  This game may the opportunity for Buzz to have a come to Jesus meeting with him. 

Have you seen any of our games? He may have the "body type" of a 3, but he's waaaay too slow and turnover prone to play it at this level. His best games (by far) for us have been at the 5.

NotAnAlum

Yes, I've seen everyone of our games.  He's turning over the ball because he doesn't have his head in the game.  Its not because he should be playing the 5.  Maybe Lockett needs to play the 5 too since he rebounds ok but can't shoot from the perimeter.  Maybe that's the problem, we have a whole bunch of centers. ::)

Silkk the Shaka

Guys it's pretty obvious Jamil's just playing possum til we really need him.  Doesn't wanna be pressured to go early entry NBA so he can come back and play a season with his cousin Duane next year.

Dawson Rental

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Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 29, 2012, 04:16:30 PM
This. As a 5 last year (due to injuries) Jamil played his best basketball. He was at times overpowered, but was a quicker jumper than most 5s and could get wide open looks when he took slower guys outside.

This year he's forced to handle it much more and play against quicker and more athletic players. So far the results have been horrible. The way he's playing right now he should be battling Otule (who's a shadow of his former self) for back up minutes at the 5.



There may be more athletic players than Jamil, but not many.  His problems seem to occur above the shoulders which isn't saying that they should be minimized.  Lack of focus is usually a lot more involved than not just trying hard enough to focus or not caring enough.  Much of a player's athletic advantages can be neutralized by too easy going of a personality.  Coaching ain't all X's and O's, Buzz has a challenge on his hands pushing Jamil to make the most of his considerable talents.

BTW, against Florida, Jamil was really made a nonfactor on the inside, so I'm not so sure that the 5 is were he should be.  I'd stick to playing him at the four, and focus on upping his emotional investment in the game.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

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No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

Lennys Tap

Quote from: LittleMurs on December 29, 2012, 06:14:09 PM
There may be more athletic players than Jamil, but not many.  His problems seem to occur above the shoulders which isn't saying that they should be minimized.  Lack of focus is usually a lot more involved than not just trying hard enough to focus or not caring enough.  Much of a player's athletic advantages can be neutralized by too easy going of a personality.  Coaching ain't all X's and O's, Buzz has a challenge on his hands pushing Jamil to make the most of his considerable talents.

Maybe you're right. All I know is that when Jamil was playing against bigger, slower people and wasn't counted on to be a ball handler he looked a lot more "focused" to me.

classof70

Quote from: Lennys Tap on December 29, 2012, 04:48:26 PM
Have you seen any of our games? He may have the "body type" of a 3, but he's waaaay too slow and turnover prone to play it at this level. His best games (by far) for us have been at the 5.

He looked lost out there, only decent play was a defensive rebound with 3 or 4 minutes to go.  In J Wilson's defense, how anyone can be "found" when the coach makes as many substitutions as Williams, I can't imagine.  Williams substitution pattern yesterday was bewildering--maybe for players too. 

Avenue Commons

His body type is absolutely NBA. Great physical talent. Capable of being a poor man's Tracy McGrady.
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4everwarriors

Would you pay this dude to play basketball for your team?
"Give 'Em Hell, Al"

NotAnAlum

We can hope.  For those old enough to remember Jim McIlvaine was a good defensive player for the first couple years at MU but didn't get it going offensively until late in his career at MU.  He was never as "absent" as Jamil has been but acording to KO early he lacked that competive drive and viewed hoops as just one of many things he did to "have fun". 
A few of Jamil's games last year so it is possible for him to play at a high level.  Just got to hope Buzz can find the switch.

GGGG

Quote from: 4everwarriors on December 30, 2012, 10:43:23 AM
Would you pay this dude to play basketball for your team?


His athleticism makes him worth a flyer....stick him in the NBDL for a bit to see if it clicks.

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