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Vote for Gardner

Davante Gardner
55 (43.7%)
Junior Cadougan
35 (27.8%)
Big Sheesh
17 (13.5%)
Vander Blue
9 (7.1%)
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Total Members Voted: 126

Aughnanure

Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on December 22, 2012, 03:57:15 PM
I understand the Gardner love, but that game is lost without Junior.

+1
“All men dream; but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act out their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible.” - T.E. Lawrence

slingkong

Junior lost SOTG with that 6A to 4TO ratio.  That's really poor point-guarding there.

bamamarquettefan

Quote from: forgetful on December 22, 2012, 03:41:56 PM
Junior out-rebounded Gardner.

Well of course. Junior is always going to have more rebounds than Gardner and Gardner is always going to have a lot more steals than Cadougan, right?

Really is amazing that Gardner is stealing the ball more than twice as often as Junior (3.5% of opponents trips vs. 1.7%).  They were both great and much better than anyone else on the court, but Gardner was far and away the best player in the game.  Steals are much more valuable than rebounds, and Gardner scores a ton and draws a ton of fouls without doing the things that COST the team points (missed shots, missed free throws and turnovers).
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bilsu

Quote from: bamamarquettefan on December 28, 2012, 09:52:09 AM
Well of course. Junior is always going to have more rebounds than Gardner and Gardner is always going to have a lot more steals than Cadougan, right?

Really is amazing that Gardner is stealing the ball more than twice as often as Junior (3.5% of opponents trips vs. 1.7%).  They were both great and much better than anyone else on the court, but Gardner was far and away the best player in the game.  Steals are much more valuable than rebounds, and Gardner scores a ton and draws a ton of fouls without doing the things that COST the team points (missed shots, missed free throws and turnovers).
Gardner gets a lot of steals, because of his great hands. He also likes to swipe at the opposing team's player that gets the rebound. Neither Gardner of Cadougan get steals based on their speed. They get them because the other team's player made a bad pass or pick the ball up when it is deflected by another MU player. A Blue defection picked up by Gardner is credited to Gardner as a steal.

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