Tampa Radio/ESPN Austin Rumor: Florida St Accepts Big XII Offer

[Aughnanure]

FWIW, but it's picking up big on message boards.

Curt Popejoy ‏@nfldraftboard
Florida State: #Seminoles to Join the Big 12 http://po.st/dojNIq  via @po_st @SportsBlogRT

The Dude of WV ‏@theDudeofWV
ESPN Austin says FSU is imminent to the Big 12.

http://www.rantsports.com/ncaa-football/2012/12/04/college-football-rumors-florida-state-headed-to-the-big-12/

[MU_Beav]

Just fine - the sooner the better...

[AirPunches]

Well, we should know our fate soon enough. Just happy they didn't wait till summer.

[Pakuni]

There aren't many out there with better sources than The Dude of WV.

[Tugg Speedman]

ACC is in the same boat as the Big East.

Will they take Cincy or uconn?  Is the ACC so weak they cannot poach anyone but a Big East football team?

[MUBasketball]

If true, why am I not seeing anything on Twitter? Usually there is a ton of chatter before this stuff happens.

[Aughnanure]

ACC is in the same boat as the Big East.

Will they take Cincy or uconn?  Is the ACC so weak they cannot poach anyone but a Big East football team?

I would question that FSU is going alone. There is usually a 2nd team.

[JTBMU7]

I would question that FSU is going alone. There is usually a 2nd team.

assuming clemson would make sense, if that's even possible anymore in this mess.

[79Warrior]

ACC is in the same boat as the Big East.

Will they take Cincy or uconn?  Is the ACC so weak they cannot poach anyone but a Big East football team?

Yep.

[GGGG]

There aren't many out there with better sources than The Dude of WV.

I think this is supposed to be in teal, because his sources are whatever idea he makes up in his mind.

[Groin_pull]

Good. Then the ACC can grab UConn and we can all finally move on.

[Tugg Speedman]

The next show to drop is the big ACC collapse. 

Fla State to B12
VA and Geo Tech to B10
Miami and Clemson to the SEC

The ACC will replace them with Cincy, Uconn, USF, and maybe Temple and so on.  What emerges is a crappy second tier BCS football conference,

I still stand my belief that when all this happens, the ACC is so watered down that ND backs out (realizing them moved too early and it was a mistake) and UNC will jump somewhere, anywhere but the ACC.  Duke and Boston College are screwed.  Where do they go?

Now if the ACC wants to show the world they are a "big boy" conference, then get West Virginia to jump from the B12 to the ACC.

I'm not holding my breath.

[Abode4life]

Everyone knows it's only a matter of time before the Big 12 tries to expand, especially considering they only have 10 teams.  They want to get back to 12 to have a conference championship at least.  Its just a question of which way they are able to expand.

[TallTitan34]

It's funny how I used to hate to see a team switch conferences and now I can't wait for it to happen.

[MUCam]

The next show to drop is the big ACC collapse.  

Fla State to B12
VA and Geo Tech to B10
Miami and Clemson to the SEC

I still stand my belief that when all this happens, the ACC is so watered down that ND backs out (realizing them moved too early and it was a mistake)...

Bingo. And don't think for a second that this collapse was just happenstance and not the Machiavellian plan of one Jim Delaney.

Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned or like the Big Ten scorned by ND. This recent round began with Big Ten moves. No doubt that the extra television sets helped cement the move, but I would be surprised if Notre Dane's move wasn't the main catalyst even if never admitted to.

Delaney and his mighty Big Ten will make ND succomb...or so thinks Mr. Delaney.

EDIT: On an unrelated note, I love smart phones but my fat ass fingers can't type for a damn on them.

[chr31ter]

Fla State to B12
VA and Geo Tech to B10
Miami and Clemson to the SEC

Just a guess... Florida and South Carolina would block Miami and Clemson.

UNC and UVA to the SEC
FSU and Clemson to the Big12
UConn and Cincy to the ACC

[brewcity77]

In any dance card switches, there are a free things to remember:

1) The B1G puts a priority on AAU schools. From the ACC, that makes UNC, UVA, and Ga Tech the most likely targets. Any of those would also likely go B1G before going Big 12.
2) Private schools won't likely be anyone's targets. Simply not enough clout. That means Duke, Miami, Wake, and BC are likely ACC, merger, or table scraps.
3) Some state schools are linked by legislation. UNC/NC State and UVA/Va Tech might have a hard time separating.
4) Expanding markets matters. The SEC or B1G won't likely add state-overlapping schools in markets they have. There's no need for the SEC to add Clemson or Miami just like the B1G doesn't need Pitt or Syracuse (sorry Orange...they apparently already have NYC now).
5) Athletic program quality doesn't matter. Rutgers and Maryland made that abundantly clear.

With those in mind, I think FSU and Clemson go to the Big 12. If not Clemson, maybe Louisville. But none of those 3 provide a new market for the SEC or have the AAU status coveted by the B1G.

The B1G will then likely take Ga Tech and either UVA or UNC. I know there's legislation issues, but they'll take whichever they can get around. My money is on UNC being the main target because they already have a foothold in Virginia through the DMV market delivered by Maryland.

Then the SEC takes the leftover legislative break (guessing NC State) and pushes for either one of the Virginia schools or tries to raid the Big 12 again.

In the end, the Big East and ACC will have to merge or die. It'll be interesting to see what amalgamation comes of that, and if they have room for basketball only schools.

[real chili 83]

In the end, the Big East and ACC will have to merge or die. It'll be interesting to see what amalgamation comes of that, and if they have room for basketball only schools.

Marquette's future is either here, with the merger of the Big East and ACC, or in a revised BE where the BBall only schools reform the BE once enough Fball schools leave (giving BBall schools voting leverage).

Sequentially, I can see the BBall schools biding their time and waiting to have enough votes to reform a BBall centered conference.  Then, they cherry pick other strong BBall programs who are left adrift by continued conference realignment, and want be a part of the newly reformed Big East powerhouse basketball centered conference.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

EDIT: On an unrelated note, I love smart phones but my fat ass fingers can't type for a damn on them.

Ditto!  I have a different but similar smart phone problem.  I keep trying to scroll threads on MUScoop to read posts and I always seem to accidently press "Report to Moderator".  It's quickly followed by some curse words and "no, no, no" while hitting the back button.  I apologize in advance to anyone.

[Hards Alumni]

Ditto!  I have a different but similar smart phone problem.  I keep trying to scroll threads on MUScoop to read posts and I always seem to accidently press "Report to Moderator".  It's quickly followed by some curse words and "no, no, no" while hitting the back button.  I apologize in advance to anyone.

its okay, you have to give a reason and confirm when reporting.

[MU Fan in Connecticut]

its okay, you have to give a reason and confirm when reporting.

Thank goodness!

[Tugg Speedman]

In any dance card switches, there are a free things to remember:

1) The B1G puts a priority on AAU schools. From the ACC, that makes UNC, UVA, and Ga Tech the most likely targets. Any of those would also likely go B1G before going Big 12.
2) Private schools won't likely be anyone's targets. Simply not enough clout. That means Duke, Miami, Wake, and BC are likely ACC, merger, or table scraps.
3) Some state schools are linked by legislation. UNC/NC State and UVA/Va Tech might have a hard time separating.
4) Expanding markets matters. The SEC or B1G won't likely add state-overlapping schools in markets they have. There's no need for the SEC to add Clemson or Miami just like the B1G doesn't need Pitt or Syracuse (sorry Orange...they apparently already have NYC now).
5) Athletic program quality doesn't matter. Rutgers and Maryland made that abundantly clear.

With those in mind, I think FSU and Clemson go to the Big 12. If not Clemson, maybe Louisville. But none of those 3 provide a new market for the SEC or have the AAU status coveted by the B1G.

The B1G will then likely take Ga Tech and either UVA or UNC. I know there's legislation issues, but they'll take whichever they can get around. My money is on UNC being the main target because they already have a foothold in Virginia through the DMV market delivered by Maryland.

Then the SEC takes the leftover legislative break (guessing NC State) and pushes for either one of the Virginia schools or tries to raid the Big 12 again.

In the end, the Big East and ACC will have to merge or die. It'll be interesting to see what amalgamation comes of that, and if they have room for basketball only schools.

Good analysis Brew.  I think we are in agreement that the boom is about to get lowered on the ACC and we'll see what comes out of that.

[Aughnanure]

Scout: FSU Move to Big 12 Imminent?

http://floridastate.scout.com/a.z?s=16&p=2&c=1246469&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2ffloridastate.scout.com%2f2%2f1246469.html

[Tugg Speedman]

Scout: FSU Move to Big 12 Imminent?

http://floridastate.scout.com/a.z?s=16&p=2&c=1246469&ssf=1&RequestedURL=http%3a%2f%2ffloridastate.scout.com%2f2%2f1246469.html

Can someone post this story?

[Aughnanure]

Chip Brown is starting to tweet and write about this...which means WATCH OUT

Chip Brown ‏@ChipBrownOB
Will #Big12 get off expansion sidelines with Florida State looking around? Orangebloods has latest ... http://bit.ly/VzP1de  #FSU #Longhorns

Chip Brown ‏@ChipBrownOB
What would the divisions be if the #Big12 ever added #FlaSt #Clemson #Miami and #VaTech? Talking about it now at http://chipbrownshow.com .

Will the Big12 Get off the [Realignment] Sidelines?
http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1445262