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Quote from: LittleMurs on November 07, 2012, 04:57:48 PM
As a wise man once said: "Life isn't fair...deal with it."

Nice catch, Mur.

GGGG

No, actually it has the opposite meaning.

The NCAA legislates to even the playing field...even if it makes the players pay the price for something completely ridiculous.  Yet they cannot even the playing field but still overlegislate. 

This is a case where they over legislated.  The players are getting screwed because of a minor action from 20 years ago.  So Murs would have a point if I had the opposite POV.

Lennys Tap

The point is you pass out advice like "Life isn't fair...deal with it" and then bitch that life isn't fair.

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Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on November 07, 2012, 08:49:33 PM
The players are getting screwed because of a minor action from 20 years ago. 

You, of everyone should understand there is no such thing as a "minor" booster.

The players are getting punished because they took a boatload of benefits from a guy who they may not have known was an IU booster, and then they decided to attend IU (likely largely because of his recommendation).

So, feel bad for kids as long as my assumption that they didn't know he was a booster is correct (which it may not be).

However, if he was a MU booster and they went to MU they'd likely have the same penalty.  Notice, the kids from his program that went to schools other than IU are not punished.

Bottom line, when boosters get involved with recruits, the recruits get screwed.  Don't get involved with recruits!

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Quote from: rocky_warrior on November 07, 2012, 09:08:02 PM
You, of everyone should understand there is no such thing as a "minor" booster.

The players are getting punished because they took a boatload of benefits from a guy who they may not have known was an IU booster, and then they decided to attend IU (likely largely because of his recommendation).

So, feel bad for kids as long as my assumption that they didn't know he was a booster is correct (which it may not be).

However, if he was a MU booster and they went to MU they'd likely have the same penalty.  Notice, the kids from his program that went to schools other than IU are not punished.

Bottom line, when boosters get involved with recruits, the recruits get screwed.  Don't get involved with recruits!

Amen, brother.
You actually have a degree from Marquette?

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No...and after reading many many psosts from people on this board that do...I have to say I'm MUCH better off, if this is the type of "intelligence" a degree from MU gets you. It sure is on full display I will say that.

GGGG

Quote from: Lennys Tap on November 07, 2012, 09:02:46 PM
The point is you pass out advice like "Life isn't fair...deal with it" and then bitch that life isn't fair.


Oh...because you misunderstand the point of what I am saying, in your mind I can no longer complain about anything.

Got it.

GGGG

Quote from: rocky_warrior on November 07, 2012, 09:08:02 PM
You, of everyone should understand there is no such thing as a "minor" booster.

The players are getting punished because they took a boatload of benefits from a guy who they may not have known was an IU booster, and then they decided to attend IU (likely largely because of his recommendation).

So, feel bad for kids as long as my assumption that they didn't know he was a booster is correct (which it may not be).

However, if he was a MU booster and they went to MU they'd likely have the same penalty.  Notice, the kids from his program that went to schools other than IU are not punished.

Bottom line, when boosters get involved with recruits, the recruits get screwed.  Don't get involved with recruits!


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I understand all of that.  The point is the application of the rule is this instance is stupid and heavy-handed.  OK???

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Quote from: The Sultan of South Wayne on November 08, 2012, 05:00:45 AM

<sigh>

I understand all of that.  The point is the application of the rule is this instance is stupid and heavy-handed.  OK???

Don't disagree with you.  I also found it very stupid when one of our players was suspended last year for a game because one of his friends/ fellow students took him to a brewers game with his dad's tickets.

However, The NCAA makes it very clear what a booster is.  So does MU.  Yes, they cast a very wide net.  I suppose, if the NCAA gave any wiggle room on this, every slimey SEC booster would exploit it as much as humanly possible.

My neighbor's kid plays d1 ball.  The team was in town, and the parents had the team over for dinner after the game.  Nothing special, grilled up some food.  Each of the athletes gave the parents money for the meal so that the dinner wasn't a free gift.   Sigh.

GGGG

Maybe it's just my libertarianism. I would rather deal with a society with less rules, and deal with people taking advantage of that, than one with a bunch of rules that dictate every circumstance. Bolas just tweeted a great new IU bumper sticker that says "My unborn son will regret this sticker 20 years from now."

But I'm done now.

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